Exalted General - /exg/

Considering that cheap perfects and passive attack and defense boosts are mostly a thing of the past, I think they will be.

Honestly, even a blood ape seems like something a Solar can't just shrug off in this edition. I doubt a veteran DB will have much chance of beating even a moderately combat-focused Solar, but they should be a notable threat.

I've never seen anything particularly weird. The most out-there concept was probably a Raksha, but that was in 2E where you could do that.

Players I've known seemed more likely to have the opposite problem, that they weren't sure how to adjust to Exalted's power scale and ended up with standard D&D-style concepts.

What are the guidelines for determining attunement costs, if any?

Doesn't HGD block unblockable attacks?

I don't think there are any official guidelines, at least in 3e. I'd say just go with the default listed for equipment (5 for weapons and armor, give or take a point depending on the armor's category, and 15 for warstriders), with other artifacts usually requiring equal or less depending on their power, if they require attunement at all.

A Dawn with Supernal as a Melee is practically an Essence 5 combatant with a smaller mote pool.

Been on a few chats, so about 1000 literal Dr. Who's and furfaggotry as far as the eye can see. People having literal giantess-off's, where they'd just keep building newer, BIGGER characters to out-giantess one another.

>Dr. Who in Exalted

Do I even want to know?

Probably that one fanbrew Exalted type of time.

It's not exciting. Just people trying as hard as possible to be The Doctor and using his picture (usually the Tennent version).

How do you do giantess? Presumably it just goes Regular character => character with Merit(Giant) => character with Legendary Size (somehow)?

They were doing Giant size and then just putting a few inches higher than the last giantess.

HGD has two functions: bleed successes off successful Initiative rolls for damage and make unblockable attacks blockable. It's not as comforting as SSE's straight out 1/combat ignore one attack (in case some guy whacks you with a 100 banked initiative killshot) but it's not limited by anything other than WP and it protects against uncountable damage too (which is fucking cool).
I also have a question concerning the Melee clash Charms; let's say I use Over and Under Technique on a decisive attack. I manage to Clash it with Fervent Blow (decisive clash) and Flashing Edge of Dawn (withering counterattack that can respond to any attack) at the same time, and both are successful. Does this mean I:
1) negate the decisive attack
2) damage his initiative pool and take the stolen initiative to:
3) add it to my own initiative pool for rolling a decisive attack on him?
In other words, I shut down his attack and smack him twice?

>This Charm allows the Solar to use Flashing Edge of Dawn
in the same instant that she uses Fervent Blow. If the clash
is successful, resolve the counterattack’s attack and add
the damage (if any) to that of Fervent Blow for a single
damage roll.

It's written on the charm my friend

Could a solar raise life out of the wyld, like a raksha? They can make a specialist apparently, but what about a band of hobgoblins or beastmen? How would you stat that charm?

I think it's just a sorcerous working to make a battlegroup or something.

>Could a solar raise life out of the wyld, like a raksha?
That used to be done with Wyld Shaping Technique. Back when it was wildly useful in 1E, and not the pile of nerfed, useless shit it's been since.

I took a look at WST, do you really need to re-invoke it several times to make anything substantial AND piss your XP away each time?

>newer, BIGGER characters to out-giantess one another.
Exalted, unfortunately, does not allow the possibility of the giantess fetish. Of all the infinite weirdness of creation, any human taller than 9 feet is non-existent.

Please be considerate in your perusal of RPG for your giantess fetish. Play a game that actively support giantesses instead of Exalted. Thanks.

I do have high hopes due to design goals this edition not being about unbreachable walls between tiers.
Using E4-5 charms, and dumping the essence pools to do so, counts as flexing decently hard. (And I'm kinda hoping that doing that is dangerous against a Veteran DB who can use powerful charms to survive your onslaught then beat you with larger mote pools.)

As yes. So that's an option too, but HGD does have some issues, like being Perilous. But it's usually a good option to have and COULD make up for no dodge.

PoCB allows it to be used in Crash to some extent.

I've been reading the combat Charms recently, and Brawl's Reckless Fury Discard looks pretty terrible compared to Hail-Shattering Practice, but it does have the benefit of being able to benefit Evasion too, so it might combo well with Dodge Charms.

...I'd still take Hail-Shattering Practice any day, but at least that's something.

What's the most memorable exalted plot you've partaken in?

Effects of Hail-Shattering Practice are capped by Solar's Essence, while those of Reckless Fury Discard aren't. Also, Reckless Fury Discard has this bit:
>This Charm takes precedence over those that reroll 1s

Hail-Shattering Practice might still be better overall, but it doesn't seem overwelmingly better to me.

Remember that one time they got a lewd illustrator to do an illustration and then proceeded to bury all the books that got printed?

So have any new books come out since the kickstarter custom charms one?

Yeah its total shit. I don't know what they're thinking, but a daiklave isn't worth 20 xp. With how many steps you need to make anything worthwhile, I think just the encounter roll, high mote cost, and 1wp should be the price of each WSP step.

It seems to me like they're begging you to abuse the system to awaken Evocations for free basically.

Why are Infernals raped by Third Circle demons? It comes out of nowhere.

The writers decided Hell should be as edgy as possible

Malfea doesn't seem so bad to me.

From Wyld Called Weapon? But that's just one evocation?

The artefact book, Arms of the Chosen came out. You want weapons that can cut memory as well as flesh? You want swords that turn everything to stone? You want armour that lets you turn into an honest to god dragon? Pick up the book from the OP.

ok, see you in a couple of hours. thanks user

I know halfcastes are stupid, but for 2e, how would you ballpark how much inheritance a halfcaste would have based on the parent exalt's essence?

malfeas isn't. but whitewolf didn't communicate with the infernal book's writers so they used some 90s era whitewolf books as a reference. (and then whitewolf threw said writers under the bus when fans said things like lillun and raping gsp were stupid)

there are wyld mutations to turn a housecat panther sized, or build a howdah on hawkback. and it does this by accident.

you could definitely make a human taller than 9ft

>Using E4-5 charms
Nobody uses E4-5 charms, even E4-5 Solars. Almost all of them are redundant.

wasn't that the cover of savant and sorcerer, and for some reason recycled for the 3e backer pdf?

You can MAKE a 20m tall human, with a working or maybe power questing, but you definitively can't be born one.

is lunar with a bird(what kind is that meant to be anyway?) totem casting an inexplicably glowy variation on obsidian butterflies?

The consensus seems to be half. Halfcastes aren't really really stupid, they just need to be treated as any Godblooded in terms of power .

In Arms, what is meant by Era in a weapon's description?>

The era the artifact was made. If you forged an artifact in the current time of the setting it's era would be "Age of Sorrows".
What? Why are we picking Supernals then?

>If you forged an artifact in the current time of the setting it's era would be "Age of Sorrows".
Thanks.

Thoughts on letting an exalt take "Evocations" as their Supernal?

>What? Why are we picking Supernals then?
To have the incredible Essence 3 charms from day 1.

It doesn't look all that nerfed in 2e? What else did it do in 1?

isn't that what that first guy to awaken them did in the story?

>Undeterred, she and her Sun-blessed steed hunted great Hiparkes, forcing the horse-god to kneel and breaking him to her will. She sheared his mane and twisted it into a string for her orichalcum bow, and she rode him home in triumph to demand her people’s fealty.

Man, I bet this guy is still pissed as hell at Solars.

High-Essence Evos can get absolutely terrifying. This is also the reason you can't get higher Circles of Sorcery with Occult Supernal.

If you do go down this route, remember not to let them buy Evocations with Solar XP.

>E4-5 Charms
It still bothers me how many of these feel like an afterthought. Some Abilities don't even have them at all.

I guess there's something to be said for concentrating more on lower-experience areas the players are more likely to reach, and for not making high-Essence Charms too much of an advantage so that non-Supernal and low-experience characters aren't too outclassed, but I still feel like there should be more up there.

>High-Essence Evos can get absolutely terrifying. This is also the reason you can't get higher Circles of Sorcery with Occult Supernal.
This is true, though. Maybe Solars are meant to look outward to reach the greatest heights of power or something, but I wonder if this is a mark of Vance's approach to mechanics rather than an intentional design choice, since he wrote the corebook's sorcery and the new artifact book.

well seeing how they're yellow, i'd say she's a solar

Gnomon is my favorite artifact I've seen so far by a long way. That shit is dope

>Exalted, unfortunately, does not allow the possibility of the giantess fetish
Lunars.

>Effects of Hail-Shattering Practice are capped by Solar's Essence, while those of Reckless Fury Discard aren't. Also, Reckless Fury Discard has this bit:
Reckless Fury Discard only works with 1s, while Hail-Shattering Practice works with 1s and 2s, so the former ignoring effects that reroll 1s seems more like a way to narrow the gap than an actual benefit.

I forgot that Hail-Shattering Practice was capped by Essence, though. Good point. Brawl's defensive ability doesn't look as good as Melee's, but maybe the options there aren't bad, and it's something a character could rely on when they don't want to spare the experience to invest in Dodge or Resistance yet.

>Wand of Rita (Moonsilver Artifact o o o o)
Originally owned by the wicked sorceress Rita Repulsa, the wand allows the person attuned to it to observe a subordinate in combat from any distance.

>Moon-Hurling Escalation 10m, +1wp
Bellowing the words "magic wand, make my bitch grow!" the exalt stabs the wand into the ground near a subordinate female - spending 1WP will allow her to throw it from anywhere on the same plane of existence and strike true.

The female grows in height and mass to roughly 40ft tall and is instilled with a Major Tie of irrepressible lust for the person attuned to the wand, and a Major Principle of "I fucking hate giant robots".

If used in battle this effect lasts one scene, otherwise it lasts 1 day. Either way once the evocation ends, the woman falls to the ground and explodes spectacularly.

then what's with the silver markings on her thighs and crotch

that's her dress

or underwear or whatever what she's wearing amounts to

...she detonates?

and why is her ponytail the same feathers as the bird's tail?

because you apparently think that hairstyle looks similar to feathers

Of course, rita's giant monsters always explode at the end

Say you take Cosmic Transcendance of (Virtue) in 2E so that all your Conviction dice convert to auto successes and you take Nightmare Fugue Vigilance so that you take a -1 internal penalty on willpower recovery rolls after sleeping. Does that mean you always get 4 temporary willpower back after sleeping or is there a mechanical interaction I'm missing?

The same bird is on the cover of 3e Core

I've never played with infernals before. We'll be using 2e because 2.5 doesn't work with infernals.
What if any key competencies are they missing, and do you know of any good homebrew charms or even whole yozi trees that would plug them you could link?

Their social requires you to either blind yourself with Ebon Dragon to access the rest of his charms or bellow orders like you're autistic and never learned about inside voice with Malfeas.

As you allude to and I'm sure you know, they have no defences besides perfects

Yes to the first, no to the second.

Sounds about right. Mind, that's a lot of charms from two different trees, and you'd need Conviction 5.

There are other ways of reading that passage besides them being raped, but after that Lillun thing, that is where the mind goes immediately. I sort of picture my guy carrying ores and messages around Ligier's forge, sweeping the floors of Amalion, training with Suntarankal, and so on.

There's also the absolute hierarchy with Swlihn, but yeah, Infernal social is pretty rough.

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does anybody have pictures of the infernal and sidereal caste marks?

Both charms are two deep in their trees so the only demanding requirement is the Conviction 5. If you were going to make Conviction your flawed virtue anyway it's totally worth it in my opinion, as you can now spend 1wp to get 5 auto successes that don't count towards the dice cap and the Conviction helps regen the willpower. I love Infernals.

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Do infernals even have a flawed virtue? Iirc it gets replaced with the urge and I think there was something about abyssic plates when your temporary willpower is below 4?

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I like this version much better than the one in their corebook. it fits better with the rest of them
although this one now feels like the odd one out, unless that flame is only there when the mark would be glowing brightly(4-7) and not when it's merely visible (at 1-3), but nobody ever draws it as just an eye

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this one is still the best of course

>I like this version much better than the one in their corebook. it fits better with the rest of them
Here's an alternate version.

of the infernals I mean. I like the 24 thing from sids, or maybe the funky h

I think ALL the caste marks just look silly.anyway. Especially the solar ones, they remind me of apple icons.

may as well slap a poo emoji or trollface on your forehead to remind you to be humble whever you start to go over the top awesome