One day Veeky Forums in your castle, you receive a letter that reads:
"All men know me for the trueborn son of Steffon Baratheon, Lord of Storm's End, by his lady wife Cassana of House Estermont. I declare upon the honor of my House that my beloved brother Robert, our late king, left no trueborn issue of his body, the boy Joffrey, the boy Tommen, and the girl Myrcella being abominations born of incest between Cersei Lannister and her brother Jaime the Kingslayer. By right of birth and blood, I do this day lay claim to the Iron Throne of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros. Let all true men declare their loyalty. Done in the Light of the Lord, under the sign and seal of Stannis of House Baratheon, the First of His Name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, and Lord of the Seven Kingdoms."
How do you respond?
Sebastian Martin
I wonder why my party is in a castle instead of the usual manor full of foxgirl maids.
Landon Foster
I wonder why my party is in a castle instead of out delivering JUSTICE.
Nathaniel Lee
Declare for Renly, The true King of Westeros.
Daniel Ortiz
Strike our banners and raise the stag.
STANNIS! STANNIS! STANNIS!
Charles Reed
How did my Party end up here?
Oh these medieval motherfuckers are doomed, we got superpowers.
Gavin Flores
Declare neutrality, due to being a paladin of justice and punishment, therefore swearing oaths to not partake in the war of men. Only can we fight if the war is deemed righteous
Daniel Ortiz
Is he asking me to give up my sovereignty?
Tell that filthy statest to fuck off.
Ayden Lopez
This
Wyatt Campbell
I have a castle?
Carson Young
Declare this man a heretic and demand he surrender to the light of the God-Emperor.
We are a Deathwatch game.
Kevin Wright
But Stannis is the God-Emperor. He's literally fighting the Unification War, he's the only king to recognize the metaphysical danger to mankind and take steps to fight it, and he's doomed to be betrayed to his death.
Henry Gray
>Godbound >God of Death Use the names written in the letter death note style. Kill everyone involved. The ones that seem innocent get into my Paradise. The rest go to hell.
That should solve things! Probably. I don't give a fuck, I'm a god.
Luke Wood
THEN ONWARDS, BROTHER
FOR THE EMPEROR
the setting is fucked
Liam Wilson
>But Stannis is the God-Emperor. Oh, you are gonna pay for that, heretic.
Ryder Price
My warlock is wondering how he and the party got such a nice castle. Wonder what happened to the king he absolutely loathed.
He'd probably declare his allegiance to the One True King Stannis since he would bring stability to the realm. While the rest of the part would either not care or stick their lot with the traitor Renly or the rebellious Starks.
Joshua Young
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Ethan Richardson
By whom?
Wipe my ass with the letter, nobody wants that a sentient frown with no sense of mercy as the king of anything.
Nicholas Adams
This man gets it.
Kayden Phillips
Careful with that Edge.
Eli Evans
>Wipe my ass with the letter, nobody wants that a sentient frown with no sense of mercy as the king of anything. t. Renly
Wyatt Sanchez
Dude. Stannis IS a paladin of justice.
Jace Miller
>tfw books will never be finished
Daniel Peterson
Dicks out for Stannis
Christian Morales
>I declare upon the honor of my House that my beloved brother Robert >my beloved brother Robert >'beloved brother' not removed >Cersei Lannister and her brother Jaime the Kingslayer >Jaime the Kingslayer >Not Ser Jaime the Kingslayer
You had one fucking job Pylos!
James Foster
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Bentley Baker
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Owen Evans
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Chase Reed
Good.
John Roberts
>How do you respond?
Holy shit, I have a castle!
Ayden Evans
M-my knee is bending on its own!
James Hill
>Renly says Stannis inspires no loyalty >Stannis' troops charge through the fiery hell while chanting his name at the battle of Blackwater
Really makes you ponder
Juan Perry
*Law Stannis is a paladin of the Law He doesn't even want to be King he just thinks he has to because LAW
Josiah Taylor
Pretend that I never got the letter, hide in my castle.
Christian Martin
This.
Carson Hernandez
a good point well made
Owen Wilson
Yeah, did you forget it's the only place in the area big enough to hold all your gay dwarf porn?
Jace Ross
YOU SHALL HAVE MY SWORD
Levi Evans
And my bow!
Parker Hall
AND MY TAX!
Austin Peterson
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Colton Richardson
By all the Seven, no man should hold a castle if lacks the liver to take up arms for his rightful king! Send your fastest raven, maester: "My House stands with you, my liege, now and always. I await your command."
John Hughes
Mercy is a disease of the mind. Pray to your emperor to be relieved of it
Ayden Rogers
Im not bending the knee so let him try to make me. My Fortress is 8 times more fortified then kings landing and has professional soldiers ready to defend it. And thats not counting the nearby forces from my fellow lord that will aid me.
Cameron Lewis
Nobody cares about the Vale anyway. Just stay up in your mountain with your spastic liege lord.
Justin Nelson
>Nobody cares about the Vale anyway. Until their army comes down from the mountains to fuck you in the ass
Carter Edwards
King's authority in Westeros stems from the gods. By rejecting the Seven, he also rejects his own legitimacy despite holding to the best claim by lineage. When Aegon the Conqueror sit the Iron Throne, he was Crowned King of Westeros by the authority of the Seven which has been held on to until this day.
Nothing prevents him from holding more gods than the Seven, but the title to Kingdom of Westeros Stems from the faith of the seven, not from the Red Faith. Using vile magics to slay his own brother, he is not just a heretic but a kinslayer as well.
With Stannis' claim invalidated by his abominable actions, Renly dead and the Queen's children all spawn of incest, the title moves from House Baratheon to the next living male nearest to Aegon the Conqueror by Agnatic Primogeniture.
Gabriel Bennett
pls send bobs and vegana
Mason Johnson
"Dude this is NotFrance lmao. Do whatever you want in your goat land."
Leo Jenkins
"(you)"
Luis Parker
which is whom?
The child of Lyanna and Rhaegar?
Jackson Wilson
>the title moves from House Baratheon to the next living male nearest to Aegon the Conqueror by Agnatic Primogeniture. That's not quite correct. The title moves to the next living male nearest to Robert Baratheon, be it some forgotten second cousin or whatever. Likely a member of another house.
Ryan Rivera
The Mad King's line was disqualified and Lyanna and Rhaegar's child was a bastard born.
Twice invalidated. We have to look further back in the family tree. Unfortunately, we've no idea who the fuck some of the Targs married to, but House Plumm would seem to be next in line from Targaryens.
Of course, Starks are somewhere in the list as well and I don't know how many connections they have. Technically speaking if no one else steps up, Robb Stark could make a claim to seat the Iron Throne, provided he convinces High Septon to Crown him the King of Westeros.
Evan Mitchell
I send him a dickbutt.
Caleb Lee
Ultimately you could simplify the whole thing a lot just by having the High Septon in your pocket.
Aegon the Conqueror was made King of Westeros by a High Septon. He could just as easily make another King of Westeros even without Targaryen lineage.
Caleb Powell
Technically, he could make even Littlefinger or Tyrion Lannister King. They'd need an army to back that claim, but thus it is with all claims.
William Jones
"New castle. Who dis?"
Jack Smith
Serve under his banner
Ryan James
i lol'd
Juan Cox
>Bastard Jon was literally born in Wedlock, he isn't a bastard.
Isaiah Hall
>Showfag
Aiden Garcia
Robb is fucking long dead
Jordan Cooper
>implibing it's gonna be much different from the show We literally have nothing else to work off of
Aiden James
The show hasn't had anything to do with the books for 2 seasons now.
Easton Rogers
I don't even watch the show or read the books ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Josiah Perry
You can't annul a consummated marriage, much less one where you're married with children.
Even if you could, that would just prove that Rhaegar was certifiably insane, further proving that Aerys' lineage was tainted beyond redemption.
The Books make a huge deal about how you can annull a marriage that has not been consummated, but if they done the deed, it's locked in.
Even the High Septon would not do it, because if he did, he'd be stoned to death or something else equally nasty. Marriage is one of the greatest protective nets women have in this time period and trampling upon that institution by abusing your powers as a high septon would make every knight in Westeros oathbound to slay you on sight.
There's also the issue that if you read something as ridiculous as that in a fucking book in a citadel without checking the validity of the source, it's probably gonna be yet another Maester trying to make up history, an action many Maesters are notorious for doing.
Connor Morgan
True, but if we're presuming claimants, Starks are somewhere in that list. In fact, every major house in Westeros is somewhere in that list.
Brayden Sanders
The Claim that Rhaegar annulled his marriage for a prophecy baby is just too insane for ANYONE to believe it even if it were true.
Rhaegar had heirs, he'd be throwing them all out of the window for an unborn babe because of a prophecy. Furhermore, he'd still force Dorne to participate in the war by holding his ex wife and her children hostage only to have his squire later come to rape and murder them all after he died.
At least Aerys' paranoia had some kernels of truth behind it. There WAS a hegemonic alliance forming underneath his nose. North HAD ambitions towards the south. Baratheons and Arryns were far from loyal.
His excuse was that he was kept in a dark cell for a long time until he went loony. Rhaegar doesn't have any excuse.
Samuel Hall
I set forth at once. A king has called and though his claim is no better then others, based on succession won in war. He has recognised his weakness and called out for aid- should his cause be just and proof of his words evident? Then I will march at his side and see if he is mighty enough to stand at my side, or in my shadow
Aaron Johnson
Justice and law are synonymous
Henry Perez
Aegon made himself king when he won the acclaim of those who would be his vassals not by the seven.
Nicholas Gray
Did I say I was from the fucking vale?
Lincoln Peterson
I ask the GM not to make such hamfisted allusions to other media.
Asher Nelson
>The title moves to the next living male nearest to Robert Baratheon, be it some forgotten second cousin or whatever. Somebody go get Gendry, tell him it's his lucky day
Adam Mitchell
Neither would a Valeman if he could deny it.
John Martin
>protecting the throne from falling to bastards born of incest >not righteous
Brody Williams
>but the title to Kingdom of Westeros Stems from the faith of the seven, not from the Red Faith. King of Westeros is a title that Stannis invented. Besides, Stannis don't really worship R'hllor
Adam Gray
war against an incestuous and insane queen seems pretty righteous
Justin Cruz
>Renly was wrong about something How inconceivable
Jaxson Hughes
It was his sister-wife that crowned him as King of Westeros
Lucas Morales
>"Ay pali there's a letter For ya!" >"What do you mean how can I tell, it's from some stuck up nobleman in a place I don't know, it's yours!" And that's how my rogue would handle it
Austin Long
>Rhaegar doesn't have any excuse. It's okay, user. The High Septon annulled it.
Easton Lewis
I burn the letter out of fear of words. I go back to trying to throwing the inhabitants of the castle out the window.
It is going poorly.
Asher Nguyen
Renly got what he deserved, the ambitious prick.
Justin Allen
None of Roberts 16 bastards are legitimate heirs.
Adam Gray
he could have legitimized them at some drunken point
Benjamin Smith
If he did, we would know by now.
Thomas Foster
Didn't Cersei threaten to kill him for just considering letting a bastard stay at the Red Keep? If he legitimized any of them we'd know.
Camden Reyes
Edric Storm is the one with the strongest claim, as he's the only bastard of Robert that has noble ancestry on both sides of his parentage.
Nolan Ortiz
My sword-arm for the House of Stannis! Death to the savage horse queen and treacherous Starks!
I don't intend to detail the thread, but it's worth mentioning both of the show's directors are descendents of Abraham.
Carter Cox
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Blake Parker
I know D&D flat out said back when they were filming season 2 that they didn't like Stannis as a character, but I didn't think they try this hard to butcher him.
Henry Taylor
They also said that Renly would make a perfect king. Think on that.
Nathaniel Anderson
Renly was the worst since he completely threw out the idea of monarchy. He got Ned killed by leaving him to fend for himself and his stunt essentially turned the conflict into the war of 5 kings
Matthew Reyes
Pretty fucking sure Aegon's Conquest ended with Submission of Oldtown and him adopting the faith of the seven and being crowned by the high septon, not from being crowned by his sister wife.
Nathaniel Reed
Then how come we don't have that in any of the records of the faith? Only in some obscure book in the Citadel that came from seven knows where?
Asher Howard
The key isn't his worship of R'hllor, it's his public rejection of the seven.
Julian Murphy
Show Renly also basically wanted to be king because the dude he was slipping it to told him he totally should. Show Loras responded to his death by slipping it to everybody else so shows how much his devotion is worth.
Ryder Ramirez
No he doesn't. He's a bastard and bastards are monstrous by nature. Targaryen bred with more or less all of the lords paramount save maybe the Greyjoys and Tullys.
Oliver Brooks
Well, user, the High Septon annulled this, and he annulled that, and there was a lot of annulling. So everything works out.