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My 12 years old group broke apart tonight, with little to none chance of ever going back. I feel like shit and memories are starting to pile up.
Any idea how to brighten up the mood?

Hot cocoa is like liquid happiness you can pour into yourself.

Guess i could make one, but doubt its effect would last for more than tonight. I'll try, it has been a while since i had one

stuff happens. move on. find a new group.
live long enough, and you get to go to their funerals. I have buried a bunch of gaming friends. my consolation? I'm not in the box.

Is it easy? no. Be Strong. Move on.

hot cocoa is good too.

Tell us about your group. The good times, at least. It's always best to start a Wake with good stories and funny anecdotes.

I'll grab the Tullamore Dew.

What hapoend op? Whats the defining moment of your groups history at the table?

What happened?

Go to gym and murder them plates
Failing that just jerk off to contrived porn

Yeah, I'm in a similar boat OP, one of my best friends I guess isn't inviting two of our other friends to his wedding, only me and our other buddy. I talked with the other buddy if we should say something, he said to drop it, and that they were never really "close friends". I viewed these 4 other guys as the indestrcutable crew, all of us together, we would grow old together, but the one who moved out to cali, and is the first to get married, isn't inviting two of them. But what said is true.

Be upset, then after a while, realize that life moves on, for better or worse.
Rejoice in the happiness you brought each other. While the moments are gone, you will have these memories for the rest of your life.
Also yeah, hot cocoa. Who else cayenne in here?

>Any idea how to brighten up the mood?
Arson? On a related note care to tell us all how it ended?

>I have buried a bunch of gaming friends.
I've only had one gaming buddy die, but some of the others are getting on in years.
It's only a matter of time.

I second hot cocoa and heavy.
Preferably in reverse order.

Group was composed by me, 2 other guys (one of them being a cook in a neato restaurant, meaning that sometimes he would cook for us really tasty dishes) and a couple. We have known each other for 13 years now. The amazing part is that at the beginning we found each other in the same Wow guild, and also found out we were basically from the same city. So we started hanging around to drink something, talking about hobbies aside from vidya, and the girl was a passionate roleplay. She introduced all of us to 3.5, pathfinder, savage world (she's basically a mentor for me) so we started playing. After a couple of years one guy and the girl starting dating. Time went on, we all had lots of fun, many campaigns, vidya, going out drinkan and shit, till 3 years ago the couple bought a home for themselves so we scheduled our rpg night at their place. Every friday we would have dinner together (either pizza or the cook would prepare things for us, if he had time) then we would play for 4-.5 hours. Sometimes we would get so much into it, that we would play for the whole day, if everybody was free. It wasnt just about the roleplaying group, we would do so many things. And now that just belong to the past.

What happened? Well, long story short the couple got separated 3 days before marriage.
I know i know
>3 days before
What they did told us is that they understood really late that they didnt love each other anymore. Everything stemmed for a fight they had a couple of years ago, and since then the guy thought the gal didnt love him anymore. Nonetheless he still went ahead with it, never mentioning it and did propose to her. In his defense, when the girl loses her temper, she is REALLY foul. Like, she doesnt really mean maybe, but she can hurt you.
After this she moved out, they did try to remain friends but no avail. They are bitching at each other about small shit now, and i see really now way out of this. Talked with both of them, with the other two guys with me too and basically the girl would like to maintain at least our rpg sessions, even if takes a year before everythings calm down, but the guy doesnt wanna hear about it. Like he comes and drink with us even if she's there, but it stops to that. No gym, no roleplayan, nothing more than that.

I don't like to lift when I'm pissed off because I inevitably end up cry-lifting

Yeah i do understand you. Problem is that prior to this in the last two months i've buried my grandad and i've broke with my gf. Like it has been a fucking streak of hot shit piling up. Maybe ill find another group, probably but i dont know. That fucking friday evening was so good, spending time with them. It hurts a lot

Yeah, that just sucks. This is a time where you can absolutely justifiably be sad without having to suck it up forcefully. Just do it with the knowledge of greener pastures ahead.

Shit happens. Grief is a part of life. Embrace that it's a tool of getting the fuck over the shit that happened.

>cry-lifting
Is that a thing?

What are you talking about, cry-lifting is the only way to lift, son.

Things end. It's okay to be sad, but things end. All in one night I lost a gf of two years I was looking to wife, some of the best friends of my life, a gaming group I'd been in for ten years and one I'd been in for five, and now anyone left in my life thinks I'm crazy. But now things are getting better. The friends who really matter are coming back. I can see that the gf was toxic and just a shit person. I can see that while that group is ended, I can find another. Life goes on, and things change, and things end, but that's sometimes not a bad thing.

>Any idea how to brighten up the mood?
Here's how I personally go about it.

Go to bed early. sleep for eight hours
Wake up in the morning, not the afternoon
Brush your teeth, shower, shave, do all kinds of hygiene stuff
Dress yourself, eat a real nutritious breakfast, get through any morning obligations
Think of activities that make you happy. Not things you do habitually (shitposting, battle royale fps, etc). Things that legitimately put love into your heart (for me that's talking to loved ones and practicing music).
Take your fresh, rested, fed self and do those things as much as possible

Thanks guys. I do appreciate you folks. Guess it wont change overnight, but ill do my best to make things better. Think ill do a couple of cheat meals more this week, just to start off anew!

Why do I feel like OP was to blame.

If and when you're ready, I've figured out the best method of finding non-autistic players in your area to meet IRL for games OTHER than D&D 5e and Pathfinder.

Because op is always at fault for any bad things they're talking about. Always. Every time. If it wasn't their fault, they wouldn't have made a thread to try and convince people it wasn't their fault.

Please tell us, there should be a sticky. Along with "How do I DM Good?"

It's cool op. We're pretty much all depressed losers here, we get you.

Weird, all I seem to find in non-D&D groups are either contrarian grognards or aging goths.

Basically, trial and error across most mediums.
1. Get a Meetup, they're free and there's always an RPG Meetup group that generally allows you to schedule a meetup advertising for a new group.
2. Find your local Facebook Groups. If you're in College, try College club groups, otherwise there's generally an RPG group for your area where you can post ads there.
3. Post ads on Plebbit in /r4r, /LFG, and the subreddits for the town you live in(which oddly enough, exists) Plebbit is for normies, and let's face it, most of us would rather play with normies over the generally cynical fa/tg/uys.
4. Post a nice flyer in every LGS near you. A nice one, printed out on cardstock and legible info with a nice big, noticeable title. Half the time the ads I see at the game store are piles of Shit with pencil-thin lettering over full-color print backgrounds, and the other half they're hand-drawn by a five year old. None of that. Black and white, big title, no fancy fonts, make sure it's Serifed so it looks professional.
5. Post in your local online classifieds. There's usually better options than Craigslist, but whatever you'd use to sell a couch or a bike usually has online personals as well.

Specify an age range, 18+ is usually a good start, though some of the older anons here may say 30+. Whoever you're comfortable playing with.
Second, don't just say the system, say what kind of campaign you want to run.
From there it's a matter of waiting, and vetting whoever does reply. I managed a 4-man group in two weeks, with two more ancillary players.

Oh, and how to DM Good: Have a goddamn Session 0. Nobody ever has a Session 0, let alone a good one, and I attribute it to 90% of all DM problems and problem players.

Let me guess, it was because of a woman?

Isn't everything thats bad?

>Session 0
This meme again. Just don't play trash systems where you have to waste a session getting shit together and you'll notice that most of your issues will disappear overnight.

In other words, have you tried NOT playing D&D?

Don't be afraid to take some time off. Rushing back in and forcing yourself into a new group might lead to mistep after misstep.

I honestly do feel better after a good cry, like I've emptied out my hate and sadness and can try to refill with better things.

What kind of idiot are you? Why would you NOT take time to ask players what they want from the campaign, explain what you want from the campaign, get started on solid character creation, and run new players through the system? Especially outside of D&D! I'm fact, 5e is usually where I see the least prep sessions happen.

Just play with her without him, if he isn't willing to play anymore that shouldn't mean none of you can

Ca-can we get a storey on this?

>Why would you NOT take time to ask players what they want from the campaign, explain what you want from the campaign, get started on solid character creation, and run new players through the system?
Because a) I will give people a general description of the campaign and whether they want to join or not is up to them, b) most systems with character creation worth its salt is going to let you create a basic character in under an hour at the very worst case scenario, and c) most people aren't going to understand the mechanics of the game until they've had a few sessions to fiddle around with it and see how things are supposed to work.

It's asinine to waste your first session on session 0 when all the shit that I hear people using session 0 for is bullshit that you should already have figured out long before you actually sit down at table. In fact, the easiest way to turn someone off a campaign is to make them wait two weeks before actually playing the system.

I don't know, cutting out the abuse victim seems like bullshit to me.

If people get together for a purpose, why have someone there who isn't a part of it, especially when there is bad blood?
Why are you pulling the relationship into the game group, as though it has a place?

>Why are you pulling the relationship into the game group, as though it has a place?
Normally I wouldn't. Someone who engages in kind of flagrant emotional abuse though? They can fuck off.

Does it come up at game?
If it does, sure, hammer it out, but if it has nothing to do with the game group, why is the game group making it their issue?
I had a GM who did the same thing, his gf was in the group, and shit was cool. Then he broke up with her, and demanded the rest of us stop being her friend. I told him to shove it rightly, a grown man doesn't tell another grown man who he is allowed to associate with, and left the game.
She stopped coming to game, and any interaction I had with her was not around that crowd, it had nothing to do with the game group until he decided to involve us.

RIP OP.
Critical Role is on in two and a half hours. We all shit on marisha and meme about it. It might be fun to get your mind off your group.

Having said that though, if he's not interested in continuing the session at all even if she's gone or something, which sounds like the case, that's on him.

>I had a GM who did the same thing, his gf was in the group, and shit was cool. Then he broke up with her, and demanded the rest of us stop being her friend.
That's a little different though. If even OP is admitting she says down right hurtful things IN PUBLIC to the dude, I imagine it's a hell of a lot worse when they fight in private.

>cayenne
my nigga

I've had people start running their mouth at the table, and I come down on that like a bolt from Zeus. It is one of my prime rules, first time, you take a walk, second time, you leave for the day, third time, I boot you from the group.

I think that's a solid rule.

This. Arguments behind close doors must be nuclear.

>what works for you =/= work for everyone else

It's worked for 10 years.

Yet you're the one going on about how session 0 will fix literally everything.

Oh the irony.

Then cut them both out for now
I know this sounds like shitposting but it's probably your best/only option

As someone that doesn't usually let himself cry this is the truth right here.

>Any idea how to brighten up the mood?
Shit on their porches.

>The drama was caused by a woman
Aaaaaand there's my sympathy, going straight out of the window. I keep telling you guys, I keep telling you to not allow women into your games. I keep telling you to keep male spaces male. I keep fucking telling you that introducing women into an otherwise male space changes dynamics, usually for the worst. I keep motherfucking telling you that women are emotional creatures first and rational creatures second. But nobody listens, nobody fucking listens. It's like when older men tell young men that marriage is a trap, but everyone responds with some variant of "it won't ever happen to me", or "my girl is different".

I hope you learned your lesson. Next time you join a group
1. Join one without vagina owners
2. The moment someone goes full soyboy present them with an ultimatum: either the bitch leaves or you leave. It'll save you 13 years of pretending everything is alright.

>understood really late that they didnt love each other anymore
>Nonetheless he still went ahead with it
>when the girl loses her temper, she is REALLY foul

I know how this is all too well.

I think the better solution is not playing with cunts in the first place, regardless of the equipment between their legs.

So, did you miss the bit where the girl is the one who introduced them to RPGs?
It's right here
>She introduced all of us to 3.5, pathfinder, savage world (she's basically a mentor for me) so we started playing.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or if this is your actual opinion but lord this is a bad comment either way

Like fucking clockwork. The second he wrote that it was a couple problem I FUCKING KNEW one of your mra shitbag will show up.

I'd be more concerned if you came to my game table than just about any woman.

Is this the depression thread?
>is the reason why our gaming group of 5 years broke apart
>lost all my friends and my wife in the process
I'm so angry at myself. Nothing even feels real anymore.

>Not just posting the story
Fine here's the validation you're never getting in real life again: I'm interested please tell me what happened

They all browse Veeky Forums and I dont want to make things worse. Not looking for validation, but I don't really know why I posted it. Sorry

Damn that's a nice crop of (you)s there. Well done.

Stop hanging out with groups of 12 year olds.

I hate to say it but if you've already lost them all then things can't get worse. Tell the story, venting can be healthy

Hey bud, you sound like you either are this boy who separated 3 days before marriage, or your a big fan of /r9k/ and /pol/.

Cheated on her huh?

I think 3 or 4 is the ideal size for a rpg group. Splitting into his, or her friends is inevitable.

We had some bullshit in our group recently, which is only finally getting better. The short version is, we had the (ex)gf of the other GM besides myself, and her roommate (male, for the MRA in the thread), getting major FOMO if we played a game without them, in a group of 9 people. But, they weren't invested in the game. But we tolerated them, because GM's gf, and even after they broke up, he tried hard to remain their friend. But the roommate was emotionally abusive to another member of the group (and kind of a dick otherwise), so when that guy cut off contact with the roommate, the exgf went off to the GM, who now saw the other group member as the bad guy, and a few others of us as complicit.

After three months, he's finally coming around that we're not all bad people, and his ex gf and roommate are just toxic people to be around. It's frustrating because you want to just say "LOOK HERE! ITS CLEAR WHO WAS WRONG!" but that's assuming the ability to just throw out three years of emotional attachment.

Every time.

It's dull, really. I tried to an hero, everyone thinks I'm some crazy rapist because the gf had actually hated me for the better part of a year and had been telling all of my friends I was a nutbag, so when I went into the looney bin following the attempt to drink bleach they decided they didn't want a damn thing to do with me.

My group is over half women and we don't have any issues.

Then again, it helps that they're not drama-causing bitches.

That latter half could be said of an all-male group to be fair

that just helps in general, regardless of gender

>Have a great 12 year long game
>It goes south
>"See, I told you, literally nothing good comes of letting women into games."

Yeah. They're people who have been friends their entire childhoods, adjacent family members of others, various people I've known for years, and a few PUGs who were awesome enough to keep.

Seriously, we really lucked out with the people we picked up. After kicking two or three of them.

>Telling stories together
>With friends who don't cause drama
>This is good

Huh?

He needs to go back to /r9k/, but Reddit is down the hall and to the left

OP here.
Had a good sleep and went to breakfast with the ex-wouldbehusbando. Turns out that maybe there were other things in the background, because he's basically told me that the girl would always be an important person in his life, because all the time and things they did together, but he outright told me that he despise roleplaying. Totally. He did it because he loved playing with our group. Was a bit taken aback, didnt think you would a thing you dont really like for 12 years just out of love, but i guess i was wrong.
Forming a splinter group for now doesnt seem the case, since the other 2 guys focused on other things for now, so i guess ill take my time off for a while and write down ideas for the future.

Not entirely public, like she would bursts out when it was just the 5 of us, and no insults, but how can i put this: she is really hotheaded when angry and her attitude is foul. How she talks, her tone etc. SO yeah, i guess, when it was just the two of them it could have been a lot worse.

She was fucking others behind his back, pretty obvious tactic

Guy sounds like he has massive issues with being a conformist, doing things because they are not too hard and not because he actually wants to do them. source: I'm like that too

I hope this whole ordeal shakes him up a bit and doesn't make him go off even deeper.

As for you, OP, keep on keeping on. You'll meet new people, make new friends. Keep being drinking buddies with that guy maybe.

Truth beyond fucking truth.

As when you talked about this before you're definitely not giving the full story.

>Only had one gaming buddy die
Same, but holy fuck it came out of nowhere. We had game night on Saturdays and one day he didn't show up. We just shrugged and figured he was busy with something important. The next day my DM informed me that he never showed up because he'd died in his sleep that morning due to complications with his diabetes. Just totally out of fuckin left field. It was a shame, too, he was probably the best roleplayer in the group and a blast to play with. The game was never quite the same without him.

Alright, though it is boring. It's just normal dickbaggery.

Me and my ex, who were in our gaming group, together, had been having pretty bad relationship problems due to both of us being kinda shit people with mental illnesses we weren't really treating. We can't decide if we want to break up, stay together, be friends, want nothing to do with each other, and the mess is extra stress on top of being a general shitbag, so I try to kill myself twice, both times heading to mental hospitals. After the first time I find out that she more or less has hated me for the last year and my gaming group wants nothing to do with me because I was kinda a dick (and my ex had been feeding them a steady stream of every single problem we had, plus making some up, thus them thinking I raped her), so they cancel that group, later reform without some other problem players, the other group I was in was run from a FLGS, but I had taken a short leave from GMing because my ex wanted to run a game (I doubt this was some trick or something, she just wanted to run a game and the timing was bad), so I was uninvited to that, too. Fast forward a few months and most people still think I'm a nutbag, but some people now know my ex was outright lying or giving them a hugely one-sided idea of what I was like, and I've stopped being near as much of a dick. Like I said, it's boring.

make a new group.

The blade that was shattered shall be reforged
The Edge that cuts darkness will shine once more

grow a pair, you lost a stupid game, there's nothing to be sad about

Remember that when u feel happy, it's only a short fraction of your life. Everything eventually turns back into numbing depression and pain. Moments of sorrow that are far more often and prominent over moments of joy.

Eventually everything is worthless and forgotten.

This guy is right. No wonder Veeky Forums-soyboy defense is sperging out over this in full force.

funny this, because I am happy most of my life with periods of unhappiness in between.

...whats wrong with you user?

keep him, ditch her

Nothing is wrong with him. He just realized what life truly is. As years go by, shit piles up. For deciding to not kill himself, I give him credit.

t. soyboys

Have a (You) for that very solid and warm advice.

>Unironically complaining about "MRAs"

Why do you come to Veeky Forums and not stay on tumblr

>I have buried a bunch of gaming friends.
Same but only one. He was 17. Suicide