Because they're too busy touching themselves over daemon toasters to pay attention at whatever they're building.
Isaac Cruz
Doing the emperor's work there user. Now go forth and spread the butts!
Jack Bennett
Abnett needs to stop making novels that end on cliffhangers.
Ravenor and Eisenhorn had nice satisfying conclusions and Pariah + recent gaunt novels are a slaps in the face that offer no conclusion.
>'I am Alpharius' >fucking ecclesiarchy dealing with CSM >re-introducing eisenhorn with cherubael >eisenhorn blowing the FUCK out of a CSM >lol gaunt is effectively warmaster >meryn just fucking shoots ezra fucking FUCK FUCK >merity chass is actually a qt girl
Ryder White
They combine the incompetence of the Mechanicus with the incompetence of Chaos. It's essentially a black hole from which no success can escape.
Justin James
>Daemon Prince of Butts >Scarab Butt Terminators >Butt Spawn >Chaos Butt Raider
>Pink Butts >Blue Butts >Pair of Brimstone Butts
Dominic Ward
That was what I thought, too. I have NO idea how you'd actually write rules for it, though.
Probably 30k, I doubt it was designed early enough to get a slot in Fires of Cyraxus despite all the delays. It's FUCKING AWESOME, though. Shai-hulud augmented sandworm Lord of War anyone?
My Biologis are totally grabbing Scoria to augment all my HQs with his parts. The model isn't amazing, but since it's so complex it'll be in lots of usable parts, I can get away with sticking one armour plate on each of my Genetor Spider-Dominus legs and I can use his scenic base.
Wyatt Collins
and not to mention some obvious hints yoncy is at least sensitive to the warp or a pysker or even capable of talking to some sort of daemon
fucking abnett it's another years long wait until either series gets a new novel too, although at least magos is releasing soon
Jayden Turner
I need help, anons. I ordered my first set of Banana boxes and can't decide on a paint scheme. I'd like to keep the gold armor and don't want to use any of the color schemes already in the codex. Which means red, purple and black no longer apply for secondary colors. So what else goes well with gold? Should I just accept I picked an NPC faction and paint them like one?
Xavier Bell
Abnett just needs to stop. All of his "good" novels are decades old.
Camden Reyes
posting a quick mock up of macha/taldeer that someone in the last thread wanted to see. before I take her apart for cleaning/gap filling/painting
Juan Jenkins
You could try blue.
Xavier Russell
So a slaanesh codex basically?
Jordan Hughes
Don't, while he's changed his novels are still nice imo
Tyler Adams
Teal
Andrew Murphy
> Dorn > Valdor > Alpharius > Scoria > a fucking squat > literally 20+ other things previewed or released
FW are back baby
Joseph Harris
Guard player here, what are some unconventional/fun ways to fight against a Tau gunline? Here are some ideas I had: >deep striking sentinels right into their units >conscript hordes with ministorum priest, regimental standard and commissar >crusader spam with an astropath with bodyguard behind them to completely negate their firepower >hordes of Ogryns >flanking Tallarns
Jacob Moore
His shit-tier writing is also running 2000AD into the ground.
Ian Rivera
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Evan Jenkins
Better sell them now at peak value.
They'll be worth nothing once mono-custodes battle reports start popping up.
Isaac Collins
> Nothing in the game can kill me > Not even a spider man
Daniel Ross
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Jason Campbell
>Dorn Meh. It's alright.
>Valdor This one is great.
>Alpharius I mean. I guess that's cool. Could have just represented him with any Alpha Legionnaire though, that would be more on point.
>Scoria Looks shitty, I'm sad about it.
>a fucking squat Neat.
>Boring ass drill, boring ass ordinatus with a big dumb buttplug drill, boring ass Knight variant #23845 Sigh.
The most exciting thing I've seen was the RT era landspeeder.
Jace Miller
An user posted some great gold/white Custodes a few threads ago, if you're good enough to paint white, definitely try that.
Cooper White
No such thing as Tau gunlines now. Any Tau player worth his salt knows mobile mid-range combat is best.
Bentley Jackson
Lerneans are anti-Termie Termies.
Jordan Howard
I have no idea how guard work in practice so it's up to you to make this idea work, BUT...
Out-jetpack and out-shoot them for maximum insult
Carter Thomas
literal metal box
Luke Richardson
I'm interested how he looks outside his Abeyant
Thomas Miller
Ah sorry, I ahven't played against Tau in 8th yet. >mobile mid-range combat is best So are infiltrator kroots and hopping suits back?
Carter Myers
Sentinels, definitely. Remember, you can infiltrate them then pay 1cp to just straight up move them next to models with no overwatch allowed.
Jason Sullivan
>anti-Termie >volkite
Caleb Gutierrez
But they aren't
Charles Harris
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Easton Young
>tzangor enlightened automatically wound on a roll of 6+ >tzangor shaman adds +1 to their hit rolls >exalted sorcerer can let them reroll 1s, and cast prescience to give them another +1 to hit rolls. >tzangor enlightened now auto wound on a roll of 4+ rerolling 1s.
So this is the new death star right?
Aaron Wood
Nah, no JSJ, they just fall back out of combat and shoot like everything with the FLY keyword.
Kroot are only really useful as a meat shield, even I don't take them and I love auxiliaries
Ethan Thompson
Nice to see a Primarch model with a helmet for once Trouble is Alpharius is fucking weird to use in-game, he's terrible at being a Primarch and his buffs rely on a lot of gimmicks that you need to build your entire army around
Carter Mitchell
Y'Vahra Deep Strike Commanders Drone Spam Strike Squad + Fireblade
These are the only viable ways to play them now. All under 18 inch range.
Nicholas Russell
Not even close. There's no way to keep your T4 2W 5++ Birdbois alive for the retaliation
Tyler Moore
This is kinda cool, I see conversion potential for Arbites/GSC/custom Guard regiments
Adrian Adams
>"SA and Militia need smaller transports." >"How about the Rhino, that's pretty universal." >"Yeah, but it's a Marine vehicle, despite all the art and fluff of it being used by regular humans..." >"Well how about we make a whole new vehicle with all the characteristics of a Rhino, and charge £80 for it?" >"Brilliant!"
I see a lot of Mars pattern Rhinos in SA/Militia lists in the future.
Alexander Lopez
More ?
Carter Stewart
>death star >just gets run over by genestealers and fucking dies I don't think you know what that word means
Death stars are utterly impervious ironclad fortresses of melee rape. This is just an okay firebase.
Aaron Sanders
Random powers fucking suck if it's just the same bullshit power you could pick up from a pyschic power.
Like your supposed to sacrifice the choice for something potentially fun not basic bitch 1 mortal wound shit.
Noah Hall
>He doesn't know the horror of bbq tau Stealths deploying crisis suits within flamer range is utterly horrifying as a nid player
Dylan Hill
Shittily changed the colors to blue in photoshop. I think I dig it.
Austin Hall
>glamour of tzeentch for -1 to hit on the birdbois >screening with summoned brimstones >using warptime to guarantee charges against their main shooting guys, then turning the characters into chaos spawn in their shooting phase to guarantee they can't even fall back.
Chase Foster
Tzaangor are based in AoS and 40k. Truly the chosen race of Tzeentch and GW.
Kevin Richardson
Is that supposed to be a cut rate rhino or a really cut rate land raider?
Bentley Richardson
>you think you’re tough, do you? >because one of us isn’t leaving here alive, and I’m the one with 6 wounds, a rerollable 3++, and IWND. I’m sorry, but you’ve thrown off the emperor’s groove
Cooper Peterson
>he doesn't know how to screen his shit
Jacob Young
40k meta discussion: Problems with the system, CP, Strategems, etc and how to fix them.
Nathaniel Lewis
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Nolan Butler
>he doesn't know about tau deep striking without regard to enemy position.
Zachary Myers
There's that. It also reminds me of ultramarines a little too much now that I think about it. I might just go for the purple scheme in the codex. I love me some purple.
Lincoln Roberts
Way to ruin it. Fuck. Would white/blue work?
Ryder Hughes
They still have to fit on the board within 9" of the thing they're trying to roast.
Noah Long
Betrayal at Calth or 2x CSM SC! box - what is the better way to build a 1000pts battalion detachment battalion is a must have, isn't it? list for casual games? I don't mind old CSM sculpts - they come with plenty of chaos bits and I will find a use for them for sure. Still, the BaC comes with 10 more marines and I don't really know what is more important for such a small games plz no cultists just no
Jacob Parker
No, they don't. Tau can deep strike directly into combat if they want thanks to homing beacons.
Xavier Watson
I am running EC for the noisy troop choices, and I have a spearhead with 2 oblit squads and a LC havoc squad in it.
Aside from the HQ maybe needing EC legion tactics for an aura on other squads, is there any reason not to make this spearhead alpha legion?
Bentley Jenkins
If you wanna do blue then go for it, but to me it looks super weird on a Custodian. Like E’s personal overdesigned gothic dudebros should have gold, red, and brown, not softer colors like blue and white. Purple would look pretty cool if done well though
Joshua Carter
Genestealers are a point sink that die to a light breeze, stop acting like they're strategy invalidating super units.
Nathan Gray
Depends on your legion.
I play EC, and I use my 2 B@C boxes because my troops are noise marines. I make the sonic guns from the meltas that come in the B@C box + some green stuff.
Lucas Baker
Anyone have better images of the Aurox rules?
Sebastian Baker
What would you call those skinned faces bits?
Justin Roberts
I play arty guard, so i could definitely just bring squads of Basilisks and fuck his shit up, but i want to fuck his shit up creatively. Thanks, sentinels really fuck up Tau infantry, dont they.
Charles Hughes
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Logan Turner
Well, I want to try every legion that can be played with generic CSM models - that's why I want to play spiky marines in the first place
Jordan Long
>Inflicts D3 AP2 Auto wounds for every hit that ignore FnP and do not allow for IWND rolls and has a 3++ with T6 and a fuckload of attacks Come at me, you fleshy banana looking cunt.
Logan Carter
No you fucking moron, I'm saying they can't be placed on top of other models, and flamers have shit range. If you know how to screen you can keep them from being able to drop that beacon anywhere useful in the first place by literally bodyblocking them.
Zachary Davis
If you want regular CSM troops, then just take the B@C dudes and green stuff some chaos-ey bits
Owen Collins
Looks like cut-rate Rhino.
Blake Rivera
>Kroots still useless GW better fix this
Robert Thomas
Beakies are cool.
Easton Myers
They're the most point-efficient melee units in the game and can cross the entire board in one turn if you play Kraken, going from complete safety from being targeted behind terrain or out of range to eating your shit. They're also just one example. Plenty of other armies have similar moves they can do. A deathstar isn't a fucking firebase, it's something that would shrug off any attack like that.
Joshua Carter
Probably neither, you’ll want to get a sorcerer and probably a DP for your HQs, but lords are good as well. Cultists are unfortunately miles more useful than our pathetic basic bois, and running anything more than 3x5 basic squads is tantamount to shooting yourself in the foot- zero return on over 200 points is pathetic. CSM lists are usually only good when built to some end, and unlike the cohesive element of marines we’re better with individual units operating independently at what they do best. A good list gets good in the HQ, elite and heavy support section, not troops or even really fast attack. Avoid the Heresy of soup.
really it’s all about the flavor you want, BaC is nice if you’re going for a relic look and want to incorporate FW stuff, it’s really up to you. I love the goofy CSM sculpts so that’s my preference, to each his own. So what army are you making, something specific or just ?
Colton Cruz
You're a legit retard. Do you even play this game?
Connor Barnes
Ws5 A3 with 2 extra power axe swings doesn't qualify as fuck load dingus
Christian Williams
The whole thing is better as AL with some cultist to fill the battalion tax. The max blob of noisbois with prescience, rr1, shoot twice, and delightful agony infiltrating first turn into range is legitimate.
Charles Murphy
Yes. Tau are fucking shit.
David Myers
>Gives you the D Robofucker
John Jackson
I want a mixed imperium army with a inquisitor at its head, is it worth?
Robert Allen
5 Attacks from one guy seems like a lot to me Literally every time it hits you you'll lose a Hull Point, you get dicked just as hard my entombed friend
Jonathan Rivera
A4, abeyant gives +1A. Also, 3++, 5W, FnP, IWND and a not insignificant amount of dakka.
Mathhammer says it's a dead heat, so whoever charges wins.
Ryder Wood
I think I agree. I'm pretty set on purple now and we'll see how it turns out.
Brandon Wilson
So when do the 3 new codexes come out?
Jackson White
Rules (for ants): >Rhino cost >Rhino stats
Looks like a Rhino. Can't make out the capacity. Could be 10, could be more.
Oliver Howard
how do i "mix" my own ulthuan grey? I forgot to buy some but the store just closed :(
Ethan Powell
Depends. Sisters and scions with an inquisitor and bodyguard Detachment, plus GK/DW/red Hunters to taste is fluffy and cool.
If your “worth” means taking 100 Guard mortars, 2 russes, and a bunch of repressor+dominion meltas then the German showers are that way
Henry Ortiz
I love the legion fluff too much to not have purple noise bois and lucius as my battalion.
However for WAAC games you are probably right, I can keep that in my pocket if that becomes needed.
Right now I am using 3 noise marine squads, a max sized possessed squad, a daemon prince w/ elixir, and a sorcerer. All this so I can get delightful agonies and warp time on a big blob of choppy units that benefit from flawless perfection.
Zachary Cox
You'd need roughly 21 1-inch models to screen a single 1 inch model, going by areas. Assuming you're playing with conscripts as the cheapest screening unit I'm aware of, you would need to pay a 63 point tax for every unit that you're protecting with a screen.
Managing such a blob would be impossible in a timed turn format as well, since IIRC movement trays aren't allowed.
The problems only get worse the bigger the model to be protected is.
Levi Cooper
Darker grey plus white. Lighter grey plus black.
Jackson Hill
thanks man
Oliver Bell
Looks like a Multi-laser and BS4. I think?
Charles Gomez
This further reinforces my theory that Rogue Trader (Warhammer 40k 1e) is actually set around roughly M31-32. Legions are still having to settle into Chapters, they're not quite out of their Legionnaire mentality born to kill, world is a fuck, the old patterns from the Heresy are still in use, and the Imperium just got fractured much like the Imperium post-Heresy was until they got their shit back together. Come to think of it, Rogue Traders would be pretty important post-Heresy, since the Imperium needs feelers sent out again to salvage whatever it can out of the blackened wreckage of the Heresy.
Rogue Trader, in my observation, is being un-rereretconned by the Horus Heresy, it's just quietly scribbling out the "40k" portion and pushing it to just post-Heresy/post-Scouring.
Brody Butler
>something specific or just ? My dudes. I want to use a neutral/universal color scheme to have fun with swapping between legions and chaos marks. I love this mechanic in AoS and want to use it in 40k >BaC is nice if you’re going for a relic look and want to incorporate FW stuff I don't really want to use any FW stuff - I find even the old plastic to be better than resin/finecast. I just really don't like to work with FW non-plastic products. >A good list gets good in the HQ, elite and heavy support section, not troops or even really fast attack So more marines will not help me at all, yup? With 2 SC boxes I can pay the troop tax, build a squad of havocs, assemble my HQs as Termie Lord and Termie Sorc. Also I still have two Brutes love this model but I have no idea if it is any good desu
Jackson Myers
Mixing up from white is going to be easier to control, harder to paint. Add tiny, tiny little bits of black to a grey. Don't mix White Scar white and Abbadon Black, it's going to turn out terribly.