Has any ever wondered what would happen if Kojima had control of Warhammer 40K

I like Kojima But Metal Gear has a Lot of recons to the lore, but It's still easier to follow.

>"In the far future of mankind, there is only war. And war never changes".
>astartes in latex suits
>moustaches
>lewd jokes
>SoB flashing tighs and butts
>The Golden Throne is a bipedal baneblade eqquiped with state-of-the-art Exterminatus weapons
>The Emprah and Horus fighting in glorious CQC, an emotional battle where Big E dies so to teach Horus about his dream
>Horus assumes the name of Big Emprah, he sits on the Golden Throne but is deluded with mankind and the Great Crusade, he slowly corrupts the Imperium from inside while trying to bring the Emprah's dream to reality

I think the Orks Would be more Fungus-like and Would be more visibly covered in Mushrooms and mold.

I some other changes would be: The Tau would be repurposed to an army that focuses on stealth and sabotage. Orks get more Bombs and mechs. The Eldars are less dickish.

The entire series would be the emotional roller coaster that was Metal Gear Rising. That is to say completely batshit insane.
Oh, and like says, Sisters would be wearing much more skimpy outfits, however, it would be because of some parasite or gene mutation they all have that forces them to breathe through their skin,
Oh, and Daemonettes would be sexy again.

I mean, that's not certain. They could be more like the Haven Troopers.

It would be exactly the same.

user, we're talking about what is basically the ONLY dedicated female group in a particular faction, the human faction, and the topic of discussion is giving control of the lore to a japaned game developer whose known fetish list is longer than most, and comparable to Veeky Forums's
Now I want you to consider that and then I'll give you a second chance at answering.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more expensive alternate models for the SoB and Fem-Tau models that replaced their plastic T&A with a skeleton frame over which elastic rubber skin-tones could be placed, just so your Sister's ass had a good sound to it every time you slapped it with the flat side of your chainsword.

Kojima is a better writer than anyone at GW right now if anything 40K would be better and have more memes than it had before.

>Kojima is a better writer than anyone at GW right now
That's a ridiculously easy feat to achieve. There are fucking fanfiction writers with twice the talent of any handful of GW writers put together.

Speaking of which, does anyone know where Batavi-user is?

You know what, if you want change, the era of the Internet is the time to do it.
If a petition got enough social media coverage, even Veeky Forums could probably sow the seeds for a future collaboration between Kojima and GW.
Remember, GW doesn't know why it isn't selling and tries everything, badly.

It would be cool but GW would try to undercut Kojima on every step.

>GW doesn't know why it isn't selling
Because they've backed themselves into a Space-Marine/good-guy-Imperium shaped corner with no way and no talent to navigate that bullshit. A more evenly fleshed out setting and an ability to sell something other than marines could've seen 40k flourish.

Remember, in any situation where another party is involved, GW looks the worst.
If it doesn't, some bonehead corporate lawyer will advise the marketing department to do something very stupid, and the scandal erupts.

IT could still work if space marines, instead of being holy supersoldiers like they are nowadays, went back to the bandana wearing cigar champing folk they used to be.

Even focusing some time on the other armies would make them money they're just being lazy and dump about 40K.

It would be WORSE. Raiden is literally the most shit character to ever grace an AAA game (a tall order given later Final Fantasy games exist), a lot of villains are garbage nonsense that makes no sense in setting, and the plot is universally shit that ignores about literally every single thing on how economy, psychology or politics work.

He does have a few rare cool characters though. Big boss, Liquid Snake, or Sam as IG commander, skitarii prime, and space marine would be pretty cool.

>if you want change, the era of the Internet is the time to do it.
That's an overly simplistic take on the situation. The truth is that it's probably not much easier to change anything in the entertainment industry now than it was before the internet, because while it's easier than ever today to get your stuff out there it's also harder than ever to get people to look at it.

>they're just being lazy and dump about 40K.

Yep, the company that's been doing this since well before you were born are just lazy and dumb about it, while you with your complete lack of experience running such a business know exactly how to make it all a massive success.

MGSV proves that nothing and nobody is free from creative decay, nigger.

Still better than 40K.

Not really.

How is worst than 40K at least Kojima knows what he is doing, unlike GW who strategy is to throw it at the well and hope it would stick.

>How is worst than 40K at least Kojima knows what he is doing
>Kojima knows what he is doing
Did you play MGS4? MGSV? Something in your post makes me doubt it.

I think people are willing to forgive a lot of failure - excuse me, 'eccentricity' - from MGS because it's... 'coherent' is definitely the wrong word. But the retarded stuff feels like it came from the same auteur/autist as the good stuff, so it's easier to cope with. I wish we'd stayed at Snake Eater levels of quality, I wish MGS4 had an editor, I wish MGS5 had an ENDING, but the good parts co-exist alongside the bad parts.

In 40k, it feels like GW's overwhelming presence is swamping the whole setting, with the occasional good BL writer basically retreating into 'everything is non-canon in-universe so I'll just do my own thing'. The only coordination, the only coherence, is GW's shitty metaplot spasms. The good doesn't feel bundled with the bad, just submerged in it.

GW with their there track record would make the MGS lore such a mess you could cut it up into pieces and still not understand it. At least with Kojima, if he is in charge it would at least he'll make the lore understandable if you pay attention.

This is a dumb concept, but both 40k and Kojima productions run on dumb as rocket fuel they use to propel them into the gravitational pull of the 'Cool' star so, thats cool, lets play along.

Kojima's works invariably are tied heavily to themes of war, life, death, and society. In Kojima's Imperium, the various factions would be more like a coalition of loosely allied organizations all working with/against each other in order to realize 'The Emperors Will', something no one can quite agree on. Even some of the chaos aligned factions (like The Word Bearers and The Alpha Legion) think they're carrying out 'The Emperors Will'. Imagine the factionalism of the Inquisition but on a much grander scale.

Various things people think are/were/is 'The Emperors Will':

>A united human galaxy without borders
>A human technocracy ruled by pure reason
>Humanity alone in the galaxy with all races wiped out
>A completely homogenized humanity with no differences in language or religion or custom to divide them
>A constantly struggling humanity that always strives to grow stronger
>A galaxy in which every world is armed with exterminatus tier weapons and the means to use them
>A Galaxy where humanity is completely DIVIDED without even a common language to unite them

Okay, how do each faction's tactics change I see The guard becoming more modern and get better training. The space marines gain synergy other imperium units.

The Orks get the ability to infect living beings with their spores so everything becomes Orky

anything less Kojima would add if he was in charge? I'm spent.

But you just described 40k. Everyone has his own agenda and believe (or pretend) to be doing the will of the Emperor/their race or to know what is the better for the future.

The AdMech would finally start using the word 'nanomachines'.

I admit that is that is very Kojima.

Everything would be nanomachines

Their motivations would be much clearer in this version other just being dicks to each other when it would be better to work together.

Yeah, but it's only explored in the more competent bits of the lore, mostly it's only mentioned as part of the grimderp 'the Imperium is retarded and infinite bureaucracy slaves dying on paperwork plantations' shit. Fantasy Flight talks about the different Inquisitorial factions/philosophies a bit, but you don't hear about differing strains of Ministorum theology, which areas/foes the High Lords want to focus on, cyber-singularity vs evangelical AdMech, etc. Ideology is almost never explored, beyond universal 'for the emprah, fuck the ayys' stuff.

In all the central GW fluff, canon Events and such, those orgs are mostly treated as monolithic organisations with the grand high goal of Fight the Bad Guys. At most the Inquisition will screw some soldiers over, but mostly only for grimderp rather than ideological/political reasons.

The Wars of Vindication, except you're actually playing Revengeance replacing all cyborgs with the assassins.

How is that situation any different from when he was working at Konami?

American Corp Culture instead of a Japanese one. Basically there would be different ways in which he gets fucked over.

And maybe more people saying "You can't do that."

Because it'd be good instead of bad.

Well, it would be a lot more homoerotic.

Good thing I never said modern Kojima is “good” nor did I say he would make 40k good, nigger. I merely implied that he’s a better writer than any of the current ones.

MGS4 was good
MGS5 was not

It wouldn't look anything like Metal Gear because he was trying to kill the series ever since MGS3.

5 was a mess because of executive meddling. You can pinpoint the exact spot where an entire third of the plot was cut because they were pushing a release date. The entire final act got relegated to some audiotapes.

And someways would be far worse in the UK than in Japan.

I didn't hate 4, but at times it was way too much like fan service. And the B&B units were abysmal. They were equivalent to the last chapter of MGSV. How am I suppose to relate to them in any way when all of their lore is dumped on me after the fact?

Even with the cut ending, I liked MGSV as a whole.

MGS4 was good if you’re a long-time fan. It was bad if it was your game (despite the gameplay being beginner friendly). MGSV was okay. I can excuse a third of the game being cut because Konami was being impatient and it wasn’t Kojima’s fault, but I can’t excuse Kojima retconning nearly a fourth of the lore.

*first game

Once. Right before I woke up screaming.

Kojima is a hack and a terrible writer. So it'd be exactly the same.

>retconning nearly a fourth of the lore

What was retconned?

By that point Kojima had stopped giving a fuck and was using development resources to make an unofficial sequel to Silent Hill.

>Big Boss from MG wasn’t Big Boss
>Big Boss isn’t as badass as everyone thought he was
>Cobra Unit’s powers came from parasites
>Skull Face was the one who killed the Cobra Unit apparently
>everything about Liquid
>Cipher and Zero are actually gud bois who dindu nuffin; Skull Face was the REAL evil
>Diamond Dogs and not!Outer Heaven existing

Who is Raiden in Kojima's 40k?

>Big Boss from MG wasn’t Big Boss

Explains how you can kill BB in both MG1 and MG2.

>Big Boss isn’t as badass as everyone thought he was

Well, I mean, excluding everything he did prior to MGSV and after. Also, in 4 he does say he's done some shady shit, such as basically erasing a person's (Venom's) identity for his personal gain, something he was mad at people doing to The Boss.

>Cobra Unit’s powers came from parasites

What was it said to be before?

>Skull Face was the one who killed the Cobra Unit apparently

Where was this said?

>everything about Liquid

You mean like how in MGS1 he told he hated Big Boss for beating his ass and shit?

>Cipher and Zero are actually gud bois who dindu nuffin; Skull Face was the REAL evil

Their intentions were good, but it grew out of their control.

>Diamond Dogs and not!Outer Heaven existing

Militaires Sans Frontieres existed before MGSV, even before Peace Walker. They had their own base, etc. Big Boss was basically the inventor of PMCs in the MGS universe.

>what was it said to be before?
A codex call with paramedic says that the powers are the result of prototype surgical procedures and gene therapy. Basically, they’re the first genome soldiers.

>where was this said?
One of Skull Face’s tapes. He was assigned as your super secret handler during Snake Eater and the bombs inside the Cobra Unit were just ruses to make you think they were dead so Skeltal Man secretly cleaned up your mess. That’s actually a small reason why he hates BB: because BB acts like hot shit even though Skully did like half the work.

>A codex call with paramedic says that the powers are the result of prototype surgical procedures and gene therapy. Basically, they’re the first genome soldiers.

Or that's what the records say. Didn't they capture their remains and take them to the US to discover the truth after MGS3?

>One of Skull Face’s tapes. He was assigned as your super secret handler during Snake Eater and the bombs inside the Cobra Unit were just ruses to make you think they were dead so Skeltal Man secretly cleaned up your mess. That’s actually a small reason why he hates BB: because BB acts like hot shit even though Skully did like half the work.

I thought the XOF were just support for the mission, cleaning up and recovering the remains of the Cobras. I don't remember them saying XOF was what actually killed the Cobras. It's a while since I played the game.

Not really? Other than enforced diversity/gender hires, what else could the UK do worse than Japan?

How is a game he was heavily strong armed into changing almost all aspects of then left half finished only to be wrapped up by nobodies proof of anything?

Gwendolyn would just be Liquid in a speed, WITH A 10 METER COCK IN CENTER FRAME

fuck

Big Boss would be the new Space Muhreens

Is he really that great?
I always found MGS series being like a cliche anime both story and art direction -wise. Like when western studious try to mimic anime in various modern cartoons, it felt like Kojima tried to mimic western sci-fi military thrillers.
Felt cheap and ridiculous.
Maybe his other games are better?

Dreadnoughts. With gigantic cannons between their legs. That is all.

No, but I sometimes wonder what would happen if Inafune had control over Warhammer 40k. Wait, I know! Let's make a new thread about it! It's so different, it definitely needs its own thread and not posted in a general where there are already a bunch of people interested in the subject matter! Fuck general threads, who needs them, amirite!? Let's all flood the board with shit about one hobby!

Considering when Kojima did his take on Gundam with ZoE it was pretty much exactly the same, I'm inclined to agree with If Kojima did a take on 40k it would be because he loved it as it was and he would keep things pretty much the same.

I have another great idea! What if Sakurai had rights to Warhammer 40k? What if Kirby sucked in DA EMPRAH and got the ability to make infinite clone soldiers!? Planet Robobot? No. Kirbemprah is taking over the universe!
40k confirmed for Smash, too! Good luck beating these soldiers, because nothing beats 40k! Quick, someone make a new thread about Sakurai getting the rights to 40k!!

Kitty Sicarius?

I can only image the insanity (Even by 40k standards.) this would be, but it would be GLORIOUSLY hammy.

If it was a cliche anime story, it'd just be angsty teens piloting metal gears and bashing each other up.

Personally I enjoy the juxtaposition of a Tom Clancy world of espionage and military porn with superhero villains. I enjoy that it's basically a mecha anime where you don't even pilot the mechas.

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Metal Gear is like Monty Python. It was brilliant at the time but repetition has killled the joke.

The plottwist would be that he is Alpharius.