New thread. Let us discuss Troll Elf relations and the growing possibility of a new unified Troll empire

Human mage. Spend all my time fishing in Vanilla Loch Modan. Would be a mage so I had easy access back to the capitals if I need it. Minimizes time spent not fishing.

>Let us discuss Troll Elf relations
So who's gonna post the porn

Get out of here Margoss

Time for Warcraft alt-history.

I would like to see an Elven Commonwealth.

Male Belf on Female Troll or Male Troll on Female Belf?

Snu Snu vs MOJOED

I'm amenable to any submissions

Did the High elves grow smaller and become paler due to the influence of the old gods in Tirisfall?

Their change has only ever been attributed to the Sunwell's influence.

And lack of the Well of Eternity.

"After landing on the Lordaeron continent, they moved inland and formed a settlement in the Tirisfal Glades. After a few years, however, many were driven insane. The belief at the time was that something evil slept beneath the Glades, so the high elves abandoned the region and moved northwards.

Around this time, they had become completely severed from the life-giving energy of the Well of Eternity. This meant that they were vulnerable to the elements and had not received immortality from Nozdormu and the World Tree. Over the generations they had shrunk in height, their skin had become a peach hue similar to most dwarves and humans, and their hair golden."

Change happened before they even founded Quel'Thalas.

Well then,

must be

Pandaren monk on Pandaria before MoP happened. Would try to help prepare people for the incoming shitstorm of Alliance and Horde's dick measuring contest, or at the very least find a way to stop Garrosh when he chimps out on everybody

Female troll on female blood elf.

did dalaran ever respond to the Forsaken attacking the small towns and houses they had that got left behind?

could this convince Dalaran to go full Alliance in bfa?

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This has somehow become a forever discussion. Which mostly ends with the same shit people bitch over.

Why is anyone part of this faction.
Who started what.
Who is best waifu.

I always assumed that stuff was stranded outside the bubble and got wiped out while the city folks tucked their heads in the sand.

No, because if Dalaran joined the alliance a certain outspoken element of the fanbase would have a conniption

it's the problem with MMO storytelling, you have to maintain narrative fairness or else people will get upset

Dalaran had been fully apart of the Alliance during the events of MoP and WoD. They only recently let the Horde back in, and that's because Khadgar reminded Jaina that she's not the soul ruler, but a member of the council.

Basically this.

Dalaran was neutral in Wrath because the whole point of that expansion was the two factions setting aside their differences to fight the Lich King. It helps that Jaina and Rhonin were both sympathetic to the Horde.

In Legion, they went back to neutrality at Khadgar's request. Consider he just got finished with a successful multi-faction offensive into Draenor, he had some clout on this.

This discussion can go nowhere good.

Since this is linked to the last Warcraft RPG thread. I'll ask here.
I'm in a WoW game, and I've been looking for the Fel weapon enchantment, but can't seem to find it. I find Fel Greatswords and whatever in monster statblocks, but nothing that tells me what the Fel enchantment does.
Anyone know where to find it?

Were the sunreavers not on Dalaran until the massacre in MoP?

As a Horde player Dalaran being neutral up until now makes some sense to me, simply because the Lich King and Legion are generally more important to deal with. If people are that obsessed with a tit for tat mentality they could just flesh out the Sunreavers more so to serve as a counterpart to them.

Bonus if they make a floating city/ship/whatever that is powered by Mana Bombs mimicking Project Orion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

Dalaran wasn't even in Northrend to fight the Lich King. They went because the blue dragons were threatening to seal their magic away.

If I'm rolling a female Dark Iron Dwarf, what should my attitude be towards Moira and her son?

Which further explains why they'd be open to cooperating with the Horde.

Besides, intended purpose or not they became a crucial link in fighting Arthas. There's a reason Tirion built the Tirion Fordring Memorial Statue to Tirion Fordring there.

Still a big bad that both factions have a reason to fight. Plus he was doing a lot more than that, on top of trying to kill the mages (not just seal their spells away).

>Malygos planed to use the Arcanomicon to locate and tap into the ley lines and divert the magical powers that course beneath the earth to his home base in Northrend, the Nexus.[13] The consequences had been violent, dangerous, and deadly. The world's crust had splintered, and the resulting unstable rifts had torn the very fabric of the magical dimension known as the Twisting Nether. Malygos's misguided attempts to “correct” the perceived misuse of arcane magic had to be halted - whatever the cost. Dragon had fought against dragon in the bitter Nexus War, and it had been the Life-Binder herself who had reached the agonizing decision that Malygos — not long recovered from millennia of insanity — had to be destroyed. Alexstrasza had taken her flight and allied with the magi of the Kirin Tor. With all that was at stake, the remaining flights had agreed to join the reds in their bitter task.

>There's a reason Tirion built the Tirion Fordring Memorial Statue to Tirion Fordring

I imagine you could either be pro-Thaurissian or... pro-twilight's hammer? If you're a loyalist theoretically you should be loyal to her as she was Thaurissian's loving wife, and is raising his child, but you could probably play it in a grumbling way where you don't want to be around holier-than-thou bronzebeards and savage wildhammers

Semi related they recently put out a short story where Moira forced all three clans to work together to get over their shit.

Remember when the Dark Irons all joined up with Varian to kill a bunch of trolls in. That quest was fun..

The sunreavers are why Dalaran went back to the alliance. Smuggling weapons of mass destruction through dalaran was a bit of a no no.

We know that Elves generally look down on Trolls but do the Trolls still consider them the same species?

They had to show Varian was being nice and connecting the Alliance together while Garrosh was breaking his Horde apart.

Remember when they turned Tyrande into a blathering idiot in order to make Varian look like a tactical genius. That scenario was fun, but the character assassination to make LO'GOSH look better was awful.

>Sends his god weapon ahead of himself in the hands of a squire who promptly dies, dropping it down a hole
>Holds a Renaissance Festival solely so he can deplete his own forces
>Kill steals the Lich King
>Builds a statue to himself in a neutral city

I hate this character so much.

All hail the heir to Thaurissian, Lord of Shadowforge and Ironforge, Protector of Khaz Modan, Ruler of the peaks and depths of Blackrock Mountain etc etc

I just want Magni back. He was the true King of the Alliance before Varian showed back up.

Trolls consider them dinner.

It wasn’t about depleting his own forces, it was about assembling the best of the best to go full The Expandables on the Lich King’s arse because you could never beat the scourge in a war of attrition.

>Tyrande being a stubborn elf thinking the Orcs do war with tactics and strategy
>Varian having expeinced battling orcs all his life knows how they think
>Tyrande sets up this complicated plan that would most likely fail
>Varian goes for the dumbest plan and the Orcs fall for it because Orcs don't think about strategy or tactics
>Orcs get shredded in a Glorious Alliance ambush

Honestly found that quest awesome really showed the difference between Orcs, Humans and Elves.

Then how come after he personally allows a blood feud to happen which inevitably kills people, he cries about the terrible loss of life and how they were all weaker for it?

So are Orcs in Warcraft even dumber than Warhammer Orks in tactics and strategies?

Varian really is the Blue Garrosh, in the sense he completely changed his faction's dynamic forever and totally murdered its credibility in the eyes of the other one.

Garrosh turns the Horde from a ragtag band of survivalists into violent warmongers with questionable morals.

Varian's arrival heralds the Alliance's transformation from a principled cooperation between ideologically aligned governments into a Human Empire focused entirely on flavorless heroic power fantasy.

Depends on the Orc Leader. if they are lead by Garrosh or Gromm they lead a path of blazing glory on pure brutishness that leads to victory or death, if they are led by a Non hellsream then they will most likely lose until Goblins can come and make a strategy for them

What would an AU Azeroth with zero titan or old god influence look like?

>Old Gods child races never rise
>None of the titanforged races around
>None of the Wild Gods or their descendants as they came from Titans. Barring perhaps Aessina and Hakkar?

What could be around:
>Elementals and Elemental Lords
>Trolls
>Goblin/Pygmy Ancestor species and it's descendants. Maybe eventually hobgoblins.
>Proto-dragons and their natural descendants
>Grell
>Hozen
>Sprites
>Elune

Possible Elves if Azurite or a Well is somehow made

he was better when he lived a simple life out in the plaguelands

Did you ever get to see him, or was he too busy hiding under the chapel?

dead or a empty husk.

Only reason Dreanor exist is because Titans came and set a balance to stop the whole planet from being consumed by nature

Dreanor didn't have a Titan soul

Titans made the well though. I suppose Azerite could eventually happen if the Races around somehow managed to hurt the world soul.

That sounds awfully like Titan propaganda.

With that list of leftover races, I wouldn't be surprised if they'll be revealed to be linked together somehow in the future.

Goblin and Grell being related has been hinted at before.

Flamekin and other Elementals -> Grell and Sprites -> Goblins origin race -> Trolls

>Trolls were around before Goblins

No he was an actual NPC. He lived in a shack somewhere in WPL.

Hence had them splitting off from the Goblin Progenitor race, of which we still don't know much about

Maybe Goblin Progenitor race is Trolls?

Do we know what "yakee" means in Taur-ahe? Because "Sunwalker" is "Echeyakee" and "Legendary" is "Haolyakee" and I can't think of a connection between the two

Clearly "Yakee" is Tauren for "AWESOME".

Could just be two words that sound the same.

Or when spoken they have slightly different accents.

Or those translations are just really loose. Languages are weird like that. Tauren may not even have a proper word for "legendary"

What if Broxigar ended up being in the Army of the Light? Serving under Turalyon? Would Alleria change her views about the Horde?

Army of the Light is too sophisticated and civilised. There is no place for savage brutes, like Broxigar.

Broxigar is a nobody character who only exists because Knaak wanted to have Saurfang without actually having Saurfang.

Saurfang didn't exist. He was created in vanilla as a random no-name NPC. Only fans made him what he is today.

Be kind of difficult when you were able to see his ass skewered on Sargeras' sword. Though they pulled out dumber things from their ass, so seeing Broxigar again would be awesome.

>He was created in vanilla as a random no-name NPC WITH THE POWER OF CLEAVE

They don't consider them the same species, but they DO put more stock in the (correct) theory they evolved from Trolls, which they mostly use to mock and belittle them for.

While them doing it Vanilla is, from what I understand, still canon, apparently them doing it in Cata was the result of a rookie quest designer not being aware that Dalaran was (at the time) neutral. So they just said "ignore that quest, it isn't canon."

Attractive female troll art is hard to find.

Particularly if your not a fan of piercings.

I wish I could relive the first moment an Alliance raid ran into him.

Filler expansion that will 110% happen at some point:

Azeroth's World Soul, for whatever reason, leaves the planet/her body. It could be stolen away, pushed out by a dark presence, or her fleeing because of said darkness. Either way the planet is dying and we have to go and rescue our world soul that's conveniently located on a nearby, SLIGHTY relevant planet.

New zones, races, and aesthetics that TOTALLY aren't recolored stuff we already have, a few theme park style raids, and a gimmick that dies off after the expac.

FUCK
OFF
BACK
TO
/V/

Probably not as dramatic as you might think. City raids we're always a mess, especially in Vanilla when the game was so much more lethal. Everyone storming Orgrimmar back in the day knew they would probably just wipe well before getting to Thrall.

The first time Saurfang cleaved a raid group, most raiders probably didn't even realize it happened. Simply standing in front of him was enough to get you killed.
You probably wouldn't even notice the cleave animation with all the spells going off . It took many times before people started realizing he was so dangerous.

Then one day a priest tried mind-controlling him.

>New zones, races, and aesthetics that TOTALLY aren't recolored stuff we already have, a few theme park style raids, and gimmick that dies off after the expac

Describing what happens in every expansion is cheating.

Nightborne don't dress that different from trolls, you know. They go around barefoot and shirtless.

>/V/

Blood Elves don't even mind, it's the Night Elves who get mad over it.

Except sunreavers had absolutely nothing to do with it. Aethas knew about it, but he was forced to keep silent, or else Garrosh would murder him. The purge of the sunreavers was disgusting scapegoating, people who defend it don't know the lore.

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Pretty sure that Tyrande's "brilliant" tactic was line of Elven cavalry with lances and charge at what was expected to be Orc army.
Meanwhile Garrosh had Magnataur to counter most armies.
And all Varian did was charge from the side in front of Worgen.

That being said, I might have erased that book from my memory in most parts.

Titan world-souls ain't the worst thing that can happen.

Provided that the world-soul still exists to drain an disproportionate amount of spirit and promote discord between the elements, the surface of Azeroth would be an eternal battlefield between the Elemental Lords with no room for biological life.
Not every planet is guaranteed to develop something as terrifying as the Evergrowth.

Tfw the lore of Draenor is much better than that of Azeroth - shorter, more original and fewer plotholes.

That's a night elf with tusks.

>no room for biological life
I'm okay with this, fleshlings are subhumans. Trolls and elves are just shit tier degraded air elementals.

There's a chance that djinn are elementals taking on mortal forms for the purpose of manipulating mortals.

Night elf women are just dark trolls without tusks and more digits.