Tracer could easily beat a space marine one on one

I'm pretty sure a bolter round would do 150 damage.

Hirame makes the most unfappable characters fappable

but could she beat a primarch

>Well-defined

So would a fight between her and a Chaos Sorcerer just end up as a paradox?

>Paradox
What!!!

Yeah he does.

Some of them can.
>Even uses dual pistols

No, he's a glitch

I feel Over watch is too family friendly with it's ingame banter.

>dies to random bogan grenades

She could just teleport away

You named it.

I claim this thread in the name of the Ascension War.

It is ours now.

Ha, ok op.

>tfw Dawn of War 3 will never be good

She would get two bursts off, one initial one, and one for the very first time she time jumps. After that, her jumps are predictable and can therefore be preemptively shot at. You know that she will be in the location she was in three seconds ago in just a moment. Fill that area with bullets and she dies.

>OP
Oh....

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Well actually no though.....

Overwatch is currently trying to be both esports and casual shooter that any hard edges had to be rounded down so no one can take offense to any of the characters or even gameplay. It's all too safe to be interesting.

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Sorcerers can make small influences to the timestream like Tracer can, and can see slightly into the future. (Warptime, weaver of fates, ect) So, the sorceror would know Tracer would go back in time to correct a mistake, so he would likewise go back in time before her correction, triggering an endless loop of micro time travel as the two go further and further back in time until they reach a point before they met...yet they would still be completely aware of the other's existence.

I mean I don't even feel bad about it. Too many things are wrong with it to even consider a fix for it.

But then you're wrong because Tracer would win

>named character from a huge popular franchise would defeat unnamed character from a relatively minor franchise

Tracer is a jobber, she is CONSTANTLY losing and failing in the animated shorts against the other cast members

But the sorcerer would know Tracer would win, and would correct her killing shot. Tracer, realizing she killed the guy, would go back before he casted the spell, which he would realize...

The two would end up in a loop of traveling both forward and backwards in time. The only way EITHER of them would win is if the other gives up or a third time-traveling party fucks them both up.

Well, we at least know what her weapon profile is. She uses twin Pulse Pistols, which thanks to the Tau we know are 12", Pistol 1, S5 AP0 D1. Reasonable. It would also be fair to assume she has access to a Warptime-like ability, and likely benefits from the same 4+ invuln save that Assassins get, or a "-1 to hit" ability.. Not sure how her rewind would work out, maybe a Celestine-style rez? I'd have to assume something like T3 with 4 wounds max, and maybe a 5+ armor save.

So all in all, it's reasonable she'd beat an unnamed marine. And if we're just going by fluff, then she'd handle a mook marine no problem.

Incorrect, she doesn't job in the Museum short.

It seems like generally the bad guys of Overwatch are just better than the heroes. Doomfist is inexplicably invulnerable and able to take on several of the more superpowered Overwatch dudes at once, Reaper is Captain America with added vampire powers, and Widowmaker is an ass to surpass Metal Gear.

Reaper and Widow are the job squad though, and Doomfist got out-punched by an angry Winston.

Hasn't Widow got a spotless record so far? She out-sniped Ana and beat Tracer.

Doomfist lost to hotblooded hero power. It happens.

Also, Talon has a wizard. Moira is a fucking wizard.

Reaper is amazingly a bigger "jobber" than Tracer in the shorts in that nothing he's been in has he shown to be successful at. Not the Museum heist, nor the attempted Russian assassination, or even steal the Overwatch operative data. Dude is just that edgy douche bag teen who thinks he's hot shit, but turns out isn't. At all. UNLIKE Soldier:76 whose thus far been more successful despite really only appearing once. At least he saved that little Mexican girl.

She couldnt hit an undefended russian in clear conditions when she had the element of suprise

They threw him a bone by having him break out Doomfist.

She failed the volskaya mission but Sombra internal sabotage so doesn't count?

Oh yeah, forgot about that. Does seem extremely weird considering the insane trick shot she pulls off in the other short.

Since these seems to be turning into an Overwatch thread, I have something I'm curious about. Never played the game but I jack off to the porn a lot, Ive always wondered, why is Widowmaker purple when she seems to be human and humans are pretty much just normal looking otherwise?

Well in defence of the Volskaya assassination attempt, he did solo a fucking mech
>Off screen
Still.

I'm guessing Sombra was interfering with her HUD. Notice her face at the end, she realizes something feels wrong about the whole thing.

How could she have 4 wounds and 5+ when she's wearing zero protection? Deldar wyches have more armor than her. I feel she'd be something like T3 W1 -2 or - 3 to hit

You a gay

Something something slowed down heart beat.

Something about experiments cutting down her bloodstream and turning her into a literal cold-blooded killer. However, this is retarded, and is a loose justification for Blizz putting in a blueberry waifu in a non-fantasy setting.

Nano-cryogenic machine.

She's basically a zombie. Same with reaper with different effects

Widowmaker has been given extensive gene therapy (and brainwashing). Beyond the general enhancements you'd expect, her heartrate has been slowed and her body temperature has been dropped to 'should be fucking dead' levels. Something about that process turned her blue.

>Never played the game but I jack off to the porn a lot

Widowmaker was originally the wife of an important Overwatch agent. She got mind-screwed by Talon to be an inside agent and after some time, killed her husband. She then fled Overwatch and got biomodded by Talon to become the ultimate assassin.
For some reason, this involved lowering her heart rate to next to nothing, which turned her blue for another some reason.

Huh... weirdly that conveyed even though I had no idea about anything. It actually crossed my mind if she was supposed to be a zombie or something. She isnt exactly but it was in the ballpark. Interesting.

So, who in overwatch can actually combat a tac marine?

Genji?

Alright, let's settle this right now.

Tracer [Infantry] [Overwatch]

M:7" Ws:4+ Bs:3+ S:3 T:3 W:1 A:2 Ld:7 Save:4+
Time Gear: May reroll one die in each phase

Her pistols are Pistol 2, S:3, D:1 ,and she weilds two of them.

Tl;dr, space marine can still beat it.

Reinhardt maybe.

Almost any of them.

D.Va in mecha has a solid chance between superior mobility and her shield to absorb bolter rounds until she retaliates during the reload period.

I love that both Widowmaker's design and backstory are so clearly influenced by a Japanese porn game about monster rape. I mean, really Blizzard, really?

Reinhardt is a pretty solid choice. He is a hulking ubermensch in powered armour.

Zarya is essentially Sergeant Harker with a Lascannon, so a definite possibility.

Because Blizzard.
Also whatnow?

Yes. Really. This isn't surprising at all.

Considering the range of it, I'd probably call Zarya's gun a Melta gun.

Consider that the game mechanics are something of an abstraction.

The shorts show that Reinhardt is a fucking juggernaut who would solo multiple Marines, and D.va's mech appears to be a lot faster and hit much harder than in gameplay. We also get shots of Genji standing among scores of omnics that he's sliced clean through without effort.

It seems safe to say that most Overwatch character can take on a Space Marine. They're basically a superheroes.

Taimanin Asagi.

Hanzo can't do shit (side step the ryuga.) Mccree can't do shit, lol no zenyatta, orissa gets fucked, Bastion gets killed by everyone in lore

A marine vs a Mech is not particulary fair
and if she would go against a dreadnought her chances are pretty bad of even surviving

>It's all too safe to be interesting.

It's a modern day GI Joe and operates exclusively on saturday morning cartoon tone, plotting, and logic.

It's fine.

We don't really know what Zenyatta can do. I would assume that McCree will put a gigantic future bullet through Marine's eye like it ain't no thing, that sort of thing is his whole shtick.

Hanzo really is shit though.

Def matrix is pretty OP.

I guess dreadnought range and weapon would be the key. Lascannon will wipe the shit out of her mech since def matrix only eats projectiles not beams

Marines go up against Tau Battlesuits which are roughly in the same ballpark as D.Vas mecha suit so it's not that far-fetched to let her keep the suit. Besides saying she should face a Dreadnought for it to be comparable is gets a little one-sided to the Marines, and even then she might still have a chance cause Dreadnoughts end up being mobility scooters for crippled Marines.

Remember, D.va regularly fights something like Mechagodzilla in her mech.

Considering the Super Shimada Bros have access to at least some kind of literal magic, they're probably some kind of psykers.
Bastion and Orisa are in that weird section of named character syndrome, in that the bastion class and or15 class robuts are pretty shit, but Bastion and Orisa are kind of ok.
Zen I will agree.
McCree we don't really have any kind of hint as to what his abilities are like outside of the game, which imposes arbitrary shackles on the abilities of a group of extraordinary individuals.

4 wounds because she's a named character. The armor is debatable, sure.

In-fluff, M.E.K.A. are designed to fight the equivalent of a 40K titan. Sure, they're supposed to do it as a squad, but the fact remains that they're meant to deal with heavily armed and armored foes. That would easily include dreads.

Well, assuming a bolter round to be equivalent to a pharah rocket it means they'd do 120 damage on direct hit, and let's assume bolter rounds don't have splash damage. That means she has at most 2 wounds, adn probably the 4+ invln

considering how, outside of her defense matrix shes an easy to pick target because the only thing between a dreadnought and herself is a piece of glass, which makes a gigantic weakspot given the fact that all the dreadnought weapons are Anti heavy infantry/Anti vehicle
But one would have to look further into a dreadnought armory for that
>Assault cannons
literally no use since defense matrix eats them
>rocket launchers
just as much useless
>Lascannon
Not a projectile so it will probably just blow her out of the mech
>CCW
when the dreadnought lands one hit through the glass shes basically done but thanks to her mobility that one is considered a hard thing to do
>Autocannon
Defense matrix eats those up aswell but would probably prove effective once the energy on that runs out
>Plasma cannon
In a scenario where plasma counts as projectile it probably would rip through it easily once defense matrix is gone but is still not useful enough
if it dosent count as projectile it rips through the whole thing
We'd also probably have to consider what pattern of dread we are talking
>normal Mk IV dread
Outside of the lascannon and the Auto cannon no real option
>contemptor
Has a conversion beam which counts as lascannon and is considered more mobile so the chances are better, plus the melta weapons most certainly ignore defense matrix
>Leviathan
Grav flux bombard and Cyclonic melta lance are both that are most likely to be ignoring the defense matrix
Bonus points for the siege drill that once when it hits it has a more devastating result

Shimada dragons are stated to be some kind of hard-light technology, along the same lines as Symmetra's, but a lot more specialized.

In other words, yeah, it's magic.

Adn what weapons do they use? Their guns are dinky

Self destructs

Their primary weapons are fusion based, which in 40K terms would equal melta-tier, and make sense in the fluff for the things they're fighting, but in-game they're much less impressive. So it's definitely a story vs gameplay thing here...but if we're going by fluff standards for bolters, I don't see why we can't do the same for fusion drivers.

They have rapid fire rocket launchers, but those haven't really shown up in the fluff, and based on in-game performance I'd probably call them an anti-infantry weapon at best.

Can't teleport when you're dead.

the correct answer is Inferno Cannon

Or heavy flamers, just add more fire until problem is solved. Works for the Salamanders.

>Battle-Brother
>Get the vortex grenades

Or just a few of these.

I'm not sure Dreadnaughts mount HFlamer at all - it's either regular Flamer under CCW or something bigger.

>Doomfist got out-punched by an angry Winston.
Yea but Winston is straight up a gorilla.

NB4 monkey fight

If you are saying those dinky little things are strength 5 you are a fucking retard. Something like a fully Charged widow shot would be strength 4. Tracer guns would be Strength 3 at most if you actually look at the damage pershot instead of being a faggot who just looks at the names of things. You should fucking kill yourself

Reminded me of this jewel in the pisstain that is /v/.

boards.fireden.net/v/thread/352734814/#352734814

>Over watch is too family friendly
Tracer's butt did nothing wrong!

>Being this autistic
>Being this angry

Take your meds user.

Has you seen how small Inferno Pistols are, user?

Tracer's guns chew through armour pretty good. They're definitely around S5.

>She uses twin Pulse Pistols, which thanks to the Tau we know are
the pulse pistols the tau use are not the same as the pulse pistols tracer uses

As far as direct analogues go, her rapid fire shitblasters are closest in function to autopistols. Just using energy projectiles rather than physical ones.