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>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their decks strategy and card choices. tappedout.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet. edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commanders color identity. manabasecrafter.com/
>What's the meanest deck you've ever built? mono green selvala turn 4 at the lastest every game, very boring, many tutors lots of ramp did i mention very boring cause it was it was a little more fun in cEDH pods but seriously fuck that format i want to play planar dragons
I don't think you understand how straight hair work. Come back when you finish middle school. Here we go again with the not so subtle attempt at making me post my dick hair.
Christian Parker
>Thread question My friends and I play a really, really odd variant on Planechase that we found out about through the guy who runs our LGS, and I built an Ugin deck that nuked my opponents' shit while my boardstate kept growing stronger.
The variant in question requires planeswalkers as commanders, before you all ask. It's a fun format, way different than what you'd expect.
Eli Perez
Reposting in the new thread.
Mmh, apparently my LGS only plays 1v1 Commander with the MTGO banlist so theoretically I could play with Leovold as a Commander right? That'd be dope.
you generate a shitton of mana then draw your whole deck i even tried putting in wacky wincons like concordant crossroads + hydra omnivore but its just too cheap theres no game there when you are winning that fast
Joseph Bennett
I think I've found a way to make bassandra, battle seraphim viable.
Joseph Roberts
go on her art is fucking fantastic id love an excuse to sleeve her up
its a dumb card thanks wizards is it going to ruin the format? probably not is it going to feel like an un-card when it does get played? probably
Parker Wilson
>What's the meanest deck you've ever built? Non-combo Girtog has a very "Kick 'em while they're down" dynamic with its massive value and stax pieces. It's certainly the deck that my group least likes to see; even if I don't stick the damn frog, it's a starvation simulator that, when it works, tends to allow the table just enough wiggle room to think they could get an out before missing a beat and falling into the permanent-sacrifice death spiral.
Sometimes they're right, and sometimes it doesn't really establish, because I've been pretty good at building to the level of the table, but when it goes it's downright cruel.
Sebastian Wright
How do I protect my enchantments from blowing up or getting exiled? Mommy gets cross with me when it happens.
Sneak attack effects allow you to sneak a lethal combo into play during combat, when she prevents interaction.
Brody Jones
Sounds fun to me. Would you mind listing some staples before i head to edhrec?
Bentley Richardson
Turns out having a 1 drop multicolor commander is great for stuff like Mox Amber and Bloomtender. Anybody have any sweet tech that isn't just normal elf/token cards?
Just run only the best ones like Luminarch Ascension and hold up cards like Boros Charm.
Brody Carter
Is Negate a decent Counterspell to use until I can either save up for or trade for a Force of Will? I've already got some staple counters like the Mana Drain I pulled at Draft and a Pact of Negation I got in a trade recently. I don't want to use spell pierce cause it seems like it'd be shit in EDH.
Carson Wood
yeah any undercosted creature is going to be your friend Great Oak Guardian Lupine Prototype Phyrexian Dreadnought Phyrexian Soulgorger Ravaging Riftwurm and my personal favorite Woodland Bellower
Daniel Campbell
>Is Negate a decent Counterspell yes its probably one of the top 5 strongest even in edh i wouldnt cut it for force of will im sure theres another card you need less
Levi Kelly
Real talk, Negate is better than Force of Will. FOW is explicitly for formats where you need it to not die. If your meta isn't some crazy "kill the table ded in 3 turns", you don't need FoW. If you're wondering, the best counterspell is Flusterstorm
Landon Nelson
Greater Auramancy, Karmic Justice, and to a lesser extent Martyr's Bond help, but the best defense is a good offense. Are you running a discard package? How about some stax pieces? Bitter Ordeal or Praetor's Grasp to pull that damn Tranquility/Aura Shards out of the deck? Most people don't run a lot of dedicated enchantment hate; at an average table you'll probably see a Merciless Eviction somewhere, an austere command, and a couple of spot answers that can hit multiple permanent types. Maybe a Nevinyrral's Disk or two if your table is oldschool. Some decks, most notably anything in the grixis spectrum, could have a real hard time dealing with your enchants, so play smart and know where the threat is, then take steps to neutralize it ahead of time.
Camden Miller
>thread question scorpion god >game is slow and durdly, slowly giving everyone the stinger so everyone is afraid to attack everyone because I get to draw >end the game with 376 bugs
Adrian Phillips
>If you're wondering, the best counterspell is Flusterstorm Explain. I thought it was only good against Storm decks.
Jack Perry
Negate is honestly very good. I'd personally prefer Counterspell itself to put Derphoof in its place, but usually you want to counter two things 1) Combo pieces, when most combos have something that can be sniped by Negate (DEN-based endgames less so) 2) Anything that's going to fuck you up when you're on top, which would mostly be negate-counterable shit like board wipes.
Brayden Price
see On Iona with doubling.
Robert Davis
It's at least a "Counter unless pay 2" for a single blue mana, which will usually land until the ultra-late game since most people are concerned with their curve, The more degenerate your opponent tries to be, the more Flusterstorm hoses them. It scales perfectly with the table.
John Hall
Which Elspeth Is best for a token deck?
Daniel Martinez
Rudy just uploaded a MM25 box opening. Just saying.
Juan Miller
nope, force of will is probably the best counterspell in the game. even when you break the card down to its value, it holds up. if we assume a card is worth 2 mana (it's usually worth that much), FOW only costs 2 mana to cast, so it's about as efficient as a counterspell, except even better since you don't need to leave mana untapped to use it.
Joseph Sullivan
>MM25 It's not modern masters.
Eli Gray
they got the little background graphic >prices will skyrocket just for the little graphic in edh
Easton Wood
You mean Misstep.
Asher Bennett
They're all pretty good in tokens, but I think I'm most partial to Sun's Champion. Spams the board the best and pays off almost as big as Knight Errant. Tirel isn't going to hang around as a PW, she's there for a quick bump-and-ult provided you can chump block for the turn it takes to fire her off.
Josiah Smith
Who cares? He's a grifter
Matthew Perez
I just want to play it in etali
Austin Collins
Excuse me mr faggot.
Hudson Morales
Fuck off reddit
Jose Lewis
Thanks a lot dude, hope you have a good day
Cameron Murphy
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Blake Long
Currently brewing etali. How fun/consistant is she?
Brody Harris
>implying people here actually like Rudy
Hudson Phillips
Ah yes if I don't idolize your YouTube celebrity I must be from /pol/. Kill yourself faggot.
Adrian Ross
>Disliking investors makes you /pol/
Wow, butthurt much? You come on here to shill the most public asshole making a lot of fun cards harder to get for the rest of us and you think you're going to get a positive reaction? This is /edhg/, Magic Finance is down the road.
Chase Torres
i like his channel i also unironicly browse /pol/ though
Isaiah Wright
My go-to budget counterspell package is Counterspell, Arcane Denial, Swan Song and Negate. Ignoring budget, I'd add Force of Will and Pact of Negation in a combo-heavy meta, or Cryptic Command and Mystic Confluence in a battlecruiser meta where card advantage is more important.
Nolan Parker
You're in a very small minority. "Investors" and "speculators" are scum.
You also can't spell for shit. Says a lot.
Jack Evans
No one falls for your evil investors meme bullshit, /pol/. Go make another Villa Zhang thread, 3 are not enough.
Ryan Davis
But that's a good thing. We need more crazy shit.
Jose Harris
Fuck off with your persecution complex and kill yourself.
>We need more crazy shit. no we dont magic is wacky enough without people intentionally trying to be as wacky as possible
Grayson Thomas
if you are looking for cheap good edh counters I prefer the ones that draw you a card after like bone to ash or arcane denial, especially if you are playing multiplayer games or creature cards with the sac or tap effect to counter a spell like the spellkite drake or judges familiar, just always threatening to counter something.
Elijah Garcia
>You're in a very small minority thats kinda funny considering where we are posting more people watch his videos on a daily basic than post on Veeky Forums all week
Julian Davis
No, it's not. I require more. And even then, the Helm isn't that whacky. It just makes a clone of your commander or a legend that gets to stick around for the turn. It's no worse than clones with Mirror Gallery or Stangg.
Daniel Gomez
>missing the point Rudyfags are numbskulls too, thanks for proving me right
Dylan Ramirez
Either move into a first world country or finish high school, whichever is keeping you from forming a coherent sentence in English.
Zachary Williams
You're actually incorrect.
Jack Bennett
I think if the price of cards is high it's only Wizards fault, not the secondary market's. Would you prefer not to be able to buy singles? Fuck off with your retarded "political" shit, you have a whole containment board for that.
David Cruz
Well more people talk about Rudy on Veeky Forums than that one faggot who got banned and is on a crusade against Wizards now and doesn't know what the law of averages is.
Matthew Parker
>it's only Wizards fault ... for appeasing dick weasels like Rudy with the continued existence of the Reserved List.
Brody Price
There's nothing political about telling some faggot posting about his Patreon e-celeb to fuck off.
Kayden Roberts
Secondary market =/= investors.
The secondary market makes playing this game actually possible. Investors are just parasites.
Robert Thomas
theres nothing wrong with my english aside from capitalization and punctuation get fucked scrub >you are in a small minority says the guy who is in an even smaller minority did you even have one? cause you have failed to make one so far.
Ryder Torres
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
Dominic Phillips
See, you're agreeing Rudy has no faults. Except there is. It's the first M25 unboxing, retard, if you don't want to see the cards you can fuck off. You know, just fuck off anyway.
Jacob Cook
>gets wrecked and immediately turns to the big dick of the law >plow me daddy wew
James Moore
>making cards harder to get >talks about decision making, economics and commerce God forbid you might actually get a job
You do realise that your boss pays you less than your labor's worth, effectively making him a parasite?
I used to as well
Jayden Johnson
i dont like card unboxing videos and the sample size is too small to see what cards are being printed at what average for limited or buying bulk. >wizards prints same rarity cards in different ratios because of the nature of print sheets and using maximum space
Asher Nelson
My comp edh deck. Derevi stax. Winter orb/hokkori/ water effects and use derevi to tap their lands each turn. Stack with grand arbiter/thalia effects so they cant cast anything and just poke em to death. Birthing pod my derevi each turn for arbiter/sisay/hokkori/linvala to shut off w.e i need.
Aaron Bennett
>and hope that my opponents will eventually kill themselves? >grand arbiter autistin IV
they will kill you 100% every time, every game
Parker Walker
I'm saying you're a fucking idiot. That's my point, I'm not surprised you missed it.
Kayden Murphy
thats not much of a point thats just name calling you dumb gay
Jeremiah Hughes
We are precon-tier meta pal - people are running taplands here. I want to run a UW deck but I only played tokens and lifeplay for now so that's the whole new thing for me - I'm quite confused and I have trouble to even pick a proper UW commander at this point
Yeah, you're the only one interest in mtg on this board, no one should promote videos you might not like.
Noah Mitchell
>actual children on Veeky Forums
Josiah Watson
So Dominaria confirmed for being THE commander set?
Elijah Perry
>What's the meanest deck you've ever built? Ages ago, back when Tempest was new, I built a deck centered around Eldimiri's Vinyard (sp?)and lots of discard effects to mana burn my opponent to death. Obviously non-viable anymore.
Brandon Parker
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can run Privileged Position (5 cost green OR white) to prevent the table from doing anything to the rest of your enchantments, right? Or does that not count as being in your commander's color identity
Gavin Nelson
yes
Lucas Jackson
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Austin Harris
Privileged Position has a GW color identity, sadly.
Before you even start, shut the fuck up about Extort
Camden Rivera
Retard
Julian Flores
>We are precon-tier meta pal - people are running taplands here.
then they will definitely target you, timmy HAET counterspell
Jack Martin
>precon meta You will get fucking destroyed the second anything of substance lands.
Adam James
>actual children on Veeky Forums
Ayden Rogers
>I'm quite confused and I have trouble to even pick a proper UW commander at this point Be an asshole user. Do it.
i legitimately think Veeky Forums might be making me dumber either that or I'm slowly having a stroke ive been posting at work for the last 3 weeks and now i can hardly do my job, what are the symptoms of a stroke aside from a numb face?
Lucas Reyes
Smelling toast, i think
Christopher Thomas
Marchesa player here, I've found that the sunforger package comes in super handy here, as you can use it to fish out Boros Charm and other things for spot protection.
Also don't underestimate the power of politics, if you have things like Duelist's Heritage and Coercive Portal you can either rig combat phases during opponents' turns (in the case of the former) or dangle a board wipe over people's heads (the latter). People will realize sooner or later that you've got a lot of ways to punish them, but only if they bother you first.
Liam Miller
ok well i havent had that yet but my nose is going numb
Landon Harris
In the last thread I noticed that few anons were asking about Noyan Dar. He seems to be a quite newbie friendly commander - I could run a Terra Eternal, try to act friendly and focus on countering only enchantment removals and mass creature killers. Also second sun approach as a side wincon - seems like a lot of people are running this card just for giggles What's the trick here? ETB spam?
Joseph Howard
I've been trying to play sultai control (tasigur) but I'm realizing i only like control in 60 card and that I'm really a timmy at heart. I want to RAMP HARD AND FAST so that I can cast BIG SHIT QUICKLY (creatures or spells), black is my favorite color. Who should I play?
