Are Kaballites better off running as 5-man squads in Venoms?
And in this edition, I assume it's still haram to have any footslogging Dark Eldar at all?
Lincoln Rogers
Deldar codex leak soon?
Logan Gomez
It sounds like one trait per detachment, to better reflect the fact that kabals, cults and covens are distinct. Essentially making DE a soup army in itself, and punishing mixing them.
Elijah Myers
>Vect is dead from old age because it turns out he was half human all along
Aaron Collins
HRR is disappointing. Too unpredictable and not enough shots to make up for its lack of consistency. Although I haven't used them since the codex dropped.
If you've already got 2 HYMP, maybe give it a go. When 8 first dropped I ran on of each with 4 marker drones and drone controller on the HRR broadside. They performed well together.
Levi Hernandez
Necron within a week, DE within a month.
Matthew Roberts
The Ork Index seems to encourage WAACfaggotry
Go on, take multiple detachments to maximize power!
True. I just read it over again. Maybe some CP bonuses for running more of the +1 CP detachments?
Luke Allen
Which Primarchs do people think were taken by what Chaos gods way back when?
Charles Flores
Taking multiple detachments is fluffy and not inherently WAAC
Jayden Green
Multiple different faction detachments though.
Like those stupid Tyranid detachments with varied bonuses.
Jacob Miller
It's probably going to be like the Daemon Codex you can go multi-god but you get special bonus' from being a Kabal, Cult or Coven
Chase Jones
Ork warbands are frequently made up of different clans.
Adam Robinson
I'm not surprised this Deldar looks like he had some plastic surgery done.
Julian Bailey
It’s used almost exclusively by waacfags tho.
Samuel Taylor
Sure, but your 'chapter tactics' should be based on the overall tribe, not the clans, otherwise that's just encouraging bullshit mixed Goffs/Snakebites WAACfaggotry.
Nolan Bailey
I only played 7th so I agree.
Brody Harris
The best thing about the HRR over the HMP is that you’re not shoehorned into taking the ATS, though they probably work better in teams to get more consistent hits. HRR, SMS, Shield Gen. Apply a Markerlight somehow, and pray
Hudson Kelly
As soon as squats are reintroduced and plastic sisters come out. So never. Wait...
Samuel Howard
No, it's the only way mono armies can soup. >mfw running Bork'an-Enclaves blueberry soup
I disagree. Stacking chapter tactics isn't bullshit. Doing something like painting Ultramarines and using the RG rules for -1 to hit is the problem.
Tyler Long
Wanting your army to be more powerful is not WAAC. Yikes dude
Josiah Lewis
Wut? Making an army that is capable of at least competing with imperial or chaos soup doesn't make it WAAC, it means of like to be able to play a game that lasts more than 2 turns.
Charles Williams
looks like taking it off would be quite difficult
Jacob Fisher
Was your first faction love at first sight or did you carefully pick it over other possible options? I basically instantly knew I wanted to play Orkz.
It makes more sense for anyone who isnt tyranids and loyalist space marines.
>>t'au sept line force being rescued by an elite cadre of farsight enclave battlesuits >>an ulthwe seer council colluding with the autarch of a biel tan Craftworld war host >>multiple ork clans banded together under the biggest boss >>the scattered forces of several chaos lords and sorcerers bounded across former legions in a blood pact of unity through shared vengeance to make one warband.
Brayden Gutierrez
Plasmas
Henry Smith
Why not? Forces cooperate all the time in the setting
Adam Carter
Third edition rulebook was my first exposure, so Imperium looked really good. After I learned a bit more, Orks jumped ahead of the pack.
Noah Murphy
>loyalist space marines. There are examples of multiple chapters engaged in the same campaign/battlefield so even this can happen reasonably
Levi Howard
Post stories from your games today >trying out new Knight Armigers. Talking shop with a few people about how theyre worse Relic Contemptors but not terrible >Guard player says "Well Relic Contemptors are over powered anyway." >We all look at him, baffled >Hes bringing a Cadian Stormlord full of dudes in a supreme command detachment and basilisks and massed infantry. But hey, look out for those dreadnoughts.
Have you been paying attention? Armies combine forces all the time. The Tau codex actually states that resources are drawn from multiple Septs to launch the next spheres of expansion.
Samuel Jones
If I have 3 different detachments, an Imperium one, a pure IG one, and say, a Blood Angels one, which stratagems can I use? Does my warlord matter? If my warlord is Celestine in the imperium detachment, can I only use the 3 basic ones because her faction doesn't get any. or can I use any factions stratagems but only on their units?
Ryan Flores
How is a farsight suit wing not fluffy
Dominic Bennett
False syllogism, just because it's almost exclusively used by WAAC players doesn't mean that using makes you WAAC.
Leo Allen
>Stacking chapter tactics isn't bullshit. >*Spams RG scouts that are -1 to hit and have a 2+Sv in cover* >*Spams UM Devastators that reroll everything* Sure pal.
Jose James
You’re just upset because he skillfully outplayed you by bringing more bodies
Jayden Jackson
Literally the only issue here is -1 to hit.
Chase Wright
Any tips for dealing with/killing coldstar commanders? I'm playing AdMech and/or BA with Celestine and assassins support.
Jason Rodriguez
>Bork'an-Enclaves blueberry soup Mind to share the list? I want to do this too
Brayden Campbell
It's not that it's not fluffy, it's that it's exclusively taken for non-fluff reasons. A tabletop army of one faction better represents the (fraction) of an actual battle happening. I think its slightly less fluffy than the alternative, one faction trait per army, and I think the way it's used, for mechanical advantage, is about the least fluffy thing there is.
I'm not saying get rid of it, and I'm certainly not saying Imperium soup is better, just...don't say it's about fluff. It isn't.
Adam Hill
Onager with Icarus array should do it.
Mason Smith
First exposure was the Ultramarines Omnibus.
I really liked Ventris and Lysane.
So yeah kinda love at first sight, I ended up painting my Marines as my own custom Dudes though.
Brayden Martin
You don’t, they’re our only good unit besides strike teams.
Blake Davis
Just because he thinks the Relic contemptors are OP doesn’t mean he doesn’t know his own unit is more OP.
William Brown
Oh, then I’m sure WAACfags use soup because it’s the fluff of their army. >”These hive fleets aren’t eating each other because of a fluffy mutual agreement! The fact that they use Kronos and Kraken rules is a coincidence!”
Carson Green
Is there a semi-viable army i can make out of this? Im not talkng tourney levels of competetive but something that wont get me tabled at a LGS
It's a character, Onager, will likely not be able to target it.
Liam Roberts
I’m sorry that you suffer from severe brain damage.
Adam Green
Tau codex alone has multiple stories of Sept X dropping in from manta strike to rescue Sept Y from being overrun.
I am 100% confident this happens in other sources as well.
Ian Cooper
>scouts >ever better than "luke-warm" They are their to poke and not die and even that they only do half well.
The +2 in cover equates to a tac in cover, but at least the tac has a 3+ to fall on if the attack ignores cover.
I didnt fight him, an AL player did and blew up his SL turn two because he didn't bubble wrap it well enough. I didnt catch the rest of the game because I was playing my own.
Even so, a Relic Contemptor? That's where he draws the line? I shudder to think how he feels about Tau and Eldar.
Jose Foster
Since they're designed as self reliant and contained forces, it just doesn't make a ton of sense outside of a very high points game where the resources of one company have already been deployed. Like, sure, they fight side by side, but it's definitely less normal than for chaos warbands or ork waaghs
Isaiah Perez
Think i will go HRR with plasma or something.
Hunter Ross
Warlord affects relics. Imperium detachment don't get to use shit except for the universal strategems. Only pure IG and BAs get to use their own.
Dominic Clark
any word on how their codex looks in terms of unit stats and such?
Gabriel Powell
>”These hive fleets aren’t eating each other because of a fluffy mutual agreement! The fact that they use Kronos and Kraken rules is a coincidence!” Aren't all the hive fleets controlled by the same mind, you know the one that is commanding other hive fleets to leave some biomass behind for Kronos because Kronos doesn't get that much.
Chase Martinez
no
John Clark
Alright, thanks user.
Kevin Ross
>Playing Superheavies outside Apoc >Mfw I'm a guard player and even I'm disgusted.
>don't say it's about fluff. It isn't. Except when it is. There are reasons to take multiple faction detachments for purely fluff reasons. "Muh WAAC" and "Muh fluff" whining is one of the worse things about this community. It's all just a cheap cop out used to shit on how other people play the game and act like your dudes are inherently superior just because you don't do X.
Levi Long
Unless you’re bork’an that would be a little awkward with 24” ranges camping backline