A single hive ship from hive fleet leviathan appears on the edge of the solar system

Thanks for derailing the thread straight away

Probably not, as we don't have the numbers nor the will to repel a Tyranid invasion. Yeah we have nukes, but modern society prefers to die like a bitch rather than drop a few on top of the invader forces. Even with nukes our chances are...close to 0, honestly.

>as we don't have the numbers nor the will to repel a Tyranid invasion
Nor the tech, nor the resources.

Tech...maybe. If we can get Elon Musk to build Not!Flamethrowers like crazy, we could. What wins against Tyranids is good defenses and numbers, not tech per se.

>This is one of the dumbest pieces of modern lore because it completely forgets that tyrannoformation is a thing.

You can't nidaform a world whose entire ecosystem share the same gene-code and it more than willing to maul any invader.

I would need three posts worth of characters to explain to you every way that post is fucking wrong.

>”Earning their name the "Old Irascibles" through hundreds of battles, the vaunted 9th Vostroyan Regiment served for three and a half centuries during the late 41st Millennium. The 9th Vostroyan became one of the most veteran formations in the Segmentum Obscurus, before finally meeting their match on the world of Nimbosa. Around 790.M41, the 9th Vostroyan defended the Imperial world of Nimbosa against the Tau's effort to expand their burgeoning alien empire and annex the world. The Vostroyan regiment heroically sacrificed themselves to a man defending the factory city of Polia. Inspired by the Vostroyans' sacrifice, the populace refused to submit to the Tau Empire. Reformed after their destruction on Nimbosa, the 9th Vostroyan once again met their ultimate fate during the Fall of Karak Prime in 998.M41. They held the hive city for 18 months against the brutal onslaught of a splinter fleet of Hive Fleet Moloch, valiantly facing a Tyranid swarm that stretched from the base of the city's walls to the distant horizon. With the onset of midwinter, and with the rapid depletion of ammunition and supplies, the 9th Vostroyan knew that they were doomed and vowed to sell their lives dearly. Only when the bulk of the Tyranid swarm had passed into the city did the regiment detonate its nucleonic stack, incinerating the hive, its defenders and an estimated 85% of the Tyranid swarm. With the coming of midwinter, the few surviving Tyranid organisms eventually starved to death and the splinter fleet was entirely defeated.“

Here is a relevant lore. Earth's armies need to lure the bulk of the swarm into a single area and then nuke them. The resulting nuclear winter would wipe the rest of the surviving Tyranids.

But you can because their spores basically do the equivalent to plants that genestealers do to people.

In fact the whole planet sharing one susceptible gene-code would just speed up the fucking process.

So what do you do about the feeder swarms on the ocean floor that just replenish their numbers with a new wave adapted to be resistant to the cold and radiation?

That is yet more retarded nu-lore that completely misunderstands how Tyranids operate.

Do it then. Or summarize it

>”Earning their name the "Old Irascibles" through hundreds of battles, the vaunted 9th Vostroyan Regiment served for three and a half centuries during the late 41st Millennium. The 9th Vostroyan became one of the most veteran formations in the Segmentum Obscurus, before finally meeting their match on the world of Nimbosa. Around 790.M41, the 9th Vostroyan defended the Imperial world of Nimbosa against the Tau's effort to expand their burgeoning alien empire and annex the world. The Vostroyan regiment heroically sacrificed themselves to a man defending the factory city of Polia. Inspired by the Vostroyans' sacrifice, the populace refused to submit to the Tau Empire. Reformed after their destruction on Nimbosa, the 9th Vostroyan once again met their ultimate fate during the Fall of Karak Prime in 998.M41. They held the hive city for 18 months against the brutal onslaught of a splinter fleet of Hive Fleet Moloch, valiantly facing a Tyranid swarm that stretched from the base of the city's walls to the distant horizon. With the onset of midwinter, and with the rapid depletion of ammunition and supplies, the 9th Vostroyan knew that they were doomed and vowed to sell their lives dearly. Only when the bulk of the Tyranid swarm had passed into the city did the regiment detonate its nucleonic stack, incinerating the hive, its defenders and an estimated 85% of the Tyranid swarm. With the coming of midwinter, the few surviving Tyranid organisms eventually starved to death and the splinter fleet was entirely defeated.“

We already have drone armies and underground bunkers. We can defeat the Tyranids.

It is probably all the fat SJW´s biomass that attracted them in the first place.

The Kroot-cells will detect the infection and will see to isolate it and destroy it. It's similar to how the genestealer infection can never thrive in the Orkish fungoid ecosystem.

I mean shapers have the ability to detect corruption in the genes of his race and relative creatures. The tainted won't last long.

>So what do you do about the feeder swarms on the ocean floor that just replenish their numbers with a new wave adapted to be resistant to the cold and radiation?

Not canon. Rippers can't swim.

>Rippers can't swim
Yet

>Tyranids splat down
>No psychic powers in our reality, so no hive mind, so the tyranids just mull about aimlessly
>evolution doesn't work the same way here than it does in 40k so no poison spores
>hippies go about trying to protect this new species

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Alright let me break down how this would go for those of you who aren't properly familiar with Tyranid lore (and I mean their actual core lore about how they work, not a bunch of short blurbs written by nu-writers that don't even make any fucking sense based on the aforementioned material).

First off, let's assume that the ship isn't here because of a Genestealer Cult, because we're already proper fucked and need all the help we can get, that would just be kicking us while we're down - we have no way to fight back against psychic mind-control aliens infiltrating every strata of our governments, workforces and military forces from the get-go. I mean the US government has an entire study conducted which assures them that if the American people ever rose up in civil war, the government loses hands down, and that's without said people being united by a telepathic broodmind led by powerful psychics and hiding literal armies of perfectly-engineered alien killing machines with claws that can peel apart main battletanks in the sewers and basements ready to strike.

Second off, let's assume that somehow, the world governments manage to put all politics and differences aside immediately, despite how unlikely that scenario probably is. We have a magically unified Terran government that easily communicates across all language barriers and coordinates their efforts. Awesome.

Thirdly, let's ignore the gravitational issues caused by Tyranids approaching using their weird FTL drives, which normally would mean that Earth just got hammered with a fuckton of natural disasters, earthquakes, tidal waves, hurricanes, you name it, we'd already be scrambling to deal with crises all over the world. Maybe this ship arrived by some other accidental means like got dropped out of a Warp portal or something.

Next post I'll begin to explain how absolutely screwed we still are -->

>Not canon. Rippers can't swim.
All Tyranids can swim and breathe underwater, dumbass, and Rippers aren't the only feeder swarms, just the most common type and the only ones represented with models on the tabletop.

>T'au and Kroot tech are roughly the same as modern age tech, right?

Was that suppose to be a serious question?

PROVE ET

>We already have drone armies

No "we" don't. What are you blathering on about?

no tek iz close ta ork tek ya git

Yes, we do. The US alone has fleets of drone aircraft.

>No "we" don't.

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>A space born force that can land anywhere at anytime that can use orbital weaponry attacking a civilization that can barely get to its moon
>Not a stomp in the favor of the space fleet
Gee what do you think gonna happen user?
The Tyranid main strategy for invading a planet without Genestealer infiltration is to just fumigate the planet with Tyranid spores and just wait for the eventual biosphere collapse to weaken or kill us outright. If there're any resistance left, they will just bombard all population center to dust. After that they just only need to use their logistically surperior force to sweep across the entire planet to collect the biomass. You are forgetting that 40k ships can both tank and dish out HUNDREDS OF MEGATONS of firepower so we can shoot our nukes at them all day and they won't even scratch their paint job.
The only reason the don't do this in 40k is because anti-orbital guns in 40k are also ridiculously powerful (there was a mention of one ACCIDENTALLY blew up a moon when it missed) and the Tyranid want the easier to process biomass (not that they don't eat non organic either, a Mechanicus report on their attack on Dalky Prime showed that the planet has loss a significant chunk of its crust plus the entire ocean and the atmosphere after the Tyranid had done eating).

So the approach begins, and we have only a few weeks to prepare. That means there are two choices:

>Try and keep activity lowkey so as not to alert the civilian populace to what's going on

>Inform everyone of what's happening and mobilize the entire world population to the utmost degree

Both come with their share of problems. Basically the first option means we're absolutely hamstrung in our efforts to get ready for the invasion and like 70% of the world minimum is going to immediately die on D-Day because they have no idea what's coming for them.

Option 2 means we have to deal with the mass panic, riots, looting, and so forth disrupting the preparation efforts as well, and national guard and internal armies are going to have to be deployed to gun down our own people to keep order. Those who fall into line can be organized into work gangs and militias, but if the pushback is violent enough we already have two crises on our hands before the nids even reach us - the revolts, and then the clean-up efforts of all the bodies after we exterminate a bunch of people. Entire cities will probably just need to be firebombed if things get bad enough.

Oh, also at some point all the animals go fucking ballistic. Mass stampedes, migrations, all the birds going crazy causing airplanes and helicopters to crash, dogs and cats howling all night, lowering morale and feeding into the riots and revolts. I honestly don't know how we deal with this shit without more firebombing. Speaking of which, all the forests, jungles, rainforests, all needs to go, it's just going to be an advantage to the nids once they land. Anything that we can seal off and erect airtight barriers around, maybe massive domes over certain strategically defensible farm areas, will become critical assets to defend and keep feeding our troops - anything we don't have time to cover in this manner (assuming we even can pull this off in a few weeks)... napalm it, son, we have no other fucking choice. -->

We aren't dumb. There is no way that a genestealer cult will take root in any 1st world country.

First, that's stupid.

Second, what's to stop cults from simply taking over 3rd world countries before simply spilling over into the 1st with their armies of fanatical, mind linked cultists and biological murder machines?

>We aren't dumb. There is no way that a genestealer cult will take root in any 1st world country

You don't get out much. Can you imagine the 2020 election with genestealers? 'Open borders for Earth! Tyranids are the swarm of peace! Trump is literally Hitler!' Oh wait, they already say the last sentence.

Humanity would prevail for three reasons.
>Trump
>Putin
>Israel

Trump and Putin would be able to negotiate an alliance with all the world's leaders to repel the threat.
Not because either of these two are great, but because they must be great in face of such peril.

Israel because I don't think the /pol/tards are as crazy as we think, or as crazy as they think. Israel has some shenanigans that would aid in fighting the tyranid menace.

Also we are basing this off of known lore. This means we have a solid established understanding of the foes we are likely to face.
We can prepare for the planetary defense better than against an unknown alien threat.

Also since autoguns are considered equal to lasguns we would just have to operate like Imperial Guard as best we can.
Our modern artillery, armor, and heavy weapons would be able to handle things like Carnifexes, but we'd struggled with biotitans for sure.

We'd also struggle with the psychological effects of fighting such a foe and, if any comparison was to be drone, we should look most towards Gears of War.

>cults from simply taking over 3rd world countries before simply spilling over into the 1st with their armies of fanatical, mind linked cultists and biological murder machines?

Our superior military and nukes?

So a few days out, hopefully we've fortified what we can, erected our defense lines, trained up our civilians and armed them, pooled our munitions and rations into safe points, and absolutely leveled and burned out everything else on the entire fucking planet, including the largest acts of human genocide in history that would put Hitler and Stalingrad to shame (even still we're probably going to all starve after this is over if we somehow survive given how much farmland we had to burn). This alone is already an almost impossible order, I guarantee we wouldn't even come close to getting it all done even if we had months.

If we're smart, we got all the missile defense systems remapped and prepared to intercept as many spores as possible across the broadest areas possible, and the worlds naval fleets dispersed out across the oceans as well as we can cover, but I really don't think we have enough.

The day the Hiveship makes orbit, I'm sure we'd try launching a ton of nukes. This will likely have barely any effect, since it will first off be screened by an extremely dense cloud of macro-spores that will intercept the missiles and take them out before they get close enough to have maximum effect, but also a Hiveship can tank several direct hits from a fucking nova canon which is several magnitudes more ridiculous than even the most powerful atomic weapons we have. At best we'll injure the thing a little bit as it makes passes across the planet, dropping spores.

Speaking of spores. They come in many, many varieties. Hope you armed every single person who is deployed in the open air with gasmasks, or you're going to have rampant, flesh-eating, lung-liquefying infections running through your ranks in a few days. Hope you actually killed off all those animals or they're all vectors for spreading the spore chimney forests that are going to start multiplying. -->

>fleets

First you said "armies", now fleets.

>drone aircraft

Drones aren't powerful. They are just cheaper. Why do you people act like they are some kind of magic super weapon? Especially since Tyranids have so many flying units.

technically the term is "squadron"..

And I sincerely hope you actually burnt down all that wilderness or you're going to have hybridized mutant Tyranid jungles erupting overnight, spreading everywhere, covering all the roads in spiny creepers that pop the tires on your transporter trucks and make entire areas impassible, have deadly man-eating venomous plants sprouting up underfoot, giant bloated trees providing concealment for all the hidden Tyranid nests that will start churning out waves of killing machines nonstop soon, and so forth.

I mean, these things are still going to happen from the ash-enriched soil, but at least slower now. Because we definitely had time to firebomb EVERY bit of forest and jungle on the planet, right?

Oh and then you've got the oceans being covered in a crusty carpet of toxic Tyranid algae, which will soon render our fleets immobile and trapped, there's really nothing we can do about that. Nor anything we can do about killing off the planet's sea life that is going to provide a rich bounty of immediately accessible biomass to the first consumption swarms to get at them.

By the way, the planet is going to immediately start heating up. Like, a lot. Hope you didn't set up those defensive lines too close to the coastlines or they're going to be flooded rapidly when the ice caps start melting. Probably a good idea not to put them too close anyways, though, because there are going to be constant, endless waves and raiding forces of Tyranids boiling up out of the seas and hitting them at any given point, day and night, day and night, and you really want enough of a killzone between the point where they come out and the point of contact to try and bring down the big ones before they reach you (pro-tip, you fucking won't).

But we're getting ahead of ourselves, before we even have to deal with the coastal invasions, there's going to be the very very first wave of flying swarms and spore mines. -->

>First you said "armies", now fleets.

Legions even. At a time of emergency we can mass produce them. We can even recycle the wreckage the same way the admech did.

>Drones aren't powerful. They are just cheaper.

Same with the servitor armies that defeated the Tyranids. But it worked.

We just need to minimize the exposure of Tyranid to armies of flesh and blood in order to beat them via attrition.

Sadly we can't send off enough nukes to destroy the threat before it lands on earth, at which point we're fucked.

Let me ask you something - do you think Earth's modern air force has what it takes to beat nids for air superiority?

In a straight up fight... maybe! This is one place we would have a fair chance. But there are no such things as straight up fights with Tyranids. We're suffering from a bunch of environmental issues right from the get-go.

Mass electrical storms when the climate-affecting spores start cloaking the planet in huge black clouds. Acid rain eating away at anything in the air or not sheltered in a hangar. Massive flotillas of airborne spore mines and meiotic spores rendering huge areas into no-fly zones. Half our missions won't even get off the ground.

Then there's the comm-jamming. People probably think Tyranids can't jam communications because they can't into tech. This is incorrect. They have bio-tech that can mimick the effects of many kinds of traditional mechanical technology, and compared to ours, is often better. Radio signals are going to be absolute complete shit everywhere, and don't forget the Hiveship in orbit is going to destroy all of our satellites, so all GPS and satcom is completely offline. This plus the reduced visibility that comes with the entire planet being turned into a storm-wracked, humid, acidic petri dish is going to make it hard as fuck to coordinate air support with ground forces. So don't count on them bailing you out if you're one of the boots on the ground, they'll pretty much be stuck dogfighting air superiority bioforms at much closer ranges than they're comfortable with, none of that "engaging from beyond the horizon" shit is going to happen here, and you better hope our air-to-air missiles can figure out how to lock on to nids when they're designed to hit other planes. -->

We have read Shield of Baal. Necron supersonic fighters and tomb blades maintained air superiority despite being swarmed endlessly by Nids.

Modern day earth has no shortage of supersonic airfighters

Good god 40k is so fucking gay sometimes. Good thing all of this shit is biologically impossible. Without the warp, there's no hivemind going to be involved for the nids anyway.

I honestly don't expect the air forces to last long. Even if they win the majority if their fights, attrition is going to be a bitch, and as landing fields and aircraft carriers on the ground are overrun they'll have less and less places to re-arm and re-fuel, while flying nids literally never need to land and new ones can be spawned from brood nests in a matter of days, while it's unlikely we will be able to produce a single new plane from the time the war begins to the point where we inevitably lose.

So... what. We'll just shoot the airforms down with surface-to-air weapons? A better strategy, but it means we cede control of any territory where we don't have StA emplacements operating. So we're going to have to tighten up the lines, leave more of the Earth unguarded, which means more places for the Nids to start growing nests where they can recycle their dead and send fresh waves at us, turning their victory through attrition into an inevitability.

But nukes! Yeah, we can nuke some of these areas, that are TOO far out from us, but we won't be able to drop them too close to our own lines for fear of radiation poisoning our troops. Tyranids, on the other hand, don't have to worry about radiation poisoning, they're resistant to it. So, there's going to be this band of contested space abutting the human defensive perimeters all over the planet where the nids are too far to shot with conventional weapons but close enough to us that they're safe from nuclear weapons. And of course the ones at the bottom of the ocean are pretty much safe from nukes, which is why we also need coastal defense perimeters.

Okay so that's most of the preliminary shit aside. There's a lot more to look at but I'm already getting burned out. Maybe I'll come back to this thread later and continue.

>Good thing all of this shit is biologically impossible.
If you had galaxies worth of genetic material and billions of years of genetic engineering you'd be surprised how much of this shit would be MORE than theoretically possible.

The psychic warp shit, not so much, at least, but I've barely even touched on that yet.

We are fucked. We are so fucking fucked our best possible response is to fucking glass our own planet with the extent of our nuclear arsenal so maybe some microbial life will survive when the Tyranids decide not to go to the smouldering irradiate ball

>comparing NECRON tech to even any other tech in 40k, let alone modern humanity
Nigger you just went full retard. You never go full retard.

>you'd be surprised how much of this shit would be MORE than theoretically possible.

Jesus, tyranid fags are worse than chaoswank
There is NOTHING biologically feasible about tyranids. dont even try to argue it

The only people who say this are people who don't study the natural world and realize that half the shit Tyranids do isn't even as outlandish as reality.

>T'au and Kroot tech are roughly the same as modern age tech, right?
Absolutely not.

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>755998.M41 A Bloody Harvest
>A lone bio-ship launches an invasion against the planet Stormvald. The Phoenix Lord Maugan Ra stands alone against the swarm, and triumphs.

I think we can take it

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Necron pilots are probably the shittiest in the galaxy, though, so individual skill might somewhat make up for technological shortcomings.

>half the shit Tyranids do isn't even as outlandish as reality.

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Sure thing Maverick

>implying you need psychic powers to have a hive mind irl
Yeah i bet you think the internet and wi-fi are fucking magic, dont you?

Nah it's well established you can win a ground war against tyranids if you can destroy the tyrannoforming infrastructure. If they can't maintain reclaimation pools they can't turn all that captured biomass into more dinobugs.

The biosphere's never quite going to be the same with the mutant plants and other straggler species but it is possible to disrupt a tyranid force to the point it can't pull itself back together.

but the lore makes it clear that the hive mind is psychic based.

>two civilizations both with faster than light travel and which have large scale interstellar spacecraft, and one with anti-gravity, force fields and guns that shoot nuclear fusion
>Equivalent to modern day Earth

All drones have to be manually control by a human retard. Most drone are just glorified RC planes with guns that are much weaker than the shit given to combat Servitors.
That is without mentioning the fact the Servitors are produce by the billions ready to go into combat straight away while with modern day drones need time to have the pilots trained, months to produce even one.

Yeah but this is MOTHERFUCKING MAUGAN RA. Plus the fact he don't even have to help the civilians or care about the environment at all.

>Israel
>Fighting
HAHAHA. HOLY SHIT.
The Jews have one of the most incompetent forces in the world. The only forces more incompetent are the Arab armies they've had to fight.

>comes into 40k thread
>complains when 40k is 40k
Nigga what?

Yeah. You kinda do. Hive mind doesn't exist in the real world; there is no group of creatures that think with one mind.
Unless you think an army taking orders is somehow a hive mind.

You're a fucking retard.

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Tyrannoformation makes pretty much all ground-battles automatic Tyranid wins(which is why it's never mentioned in fluff) so who knows

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>Fucking Hovertanks

Yeah man, same fucking technology.

Like that matters. Take over China, you win, wao

Did you literally try to assume "Spores" don't work like fucking spores because you know fuck all about Biology?

>Israel
>A good Military

There is a reason your highly trained special forces are known as groin kickers and child killers user

Jews are the last people to be worth anything in a fight.

... We let ideas like Communism and Islam breed in 1st world countries. Genestealer cults have a literal biological ticker.

>genestealer cultists come in as poor refugees
>The bloated and corrupt middle class fight tooth and nail to ensure they replace the working class and that people Enbrace Genestealerism.

What the heck is tyrannoformation?

We're humans, space bugs can't beat us. The only reason we have our petty differences is because they entertain and satiate our warlike, conflict driven spirits. The worst thing for the universe as a whole is the idea of eight billion humans united in their anger and fear.

If by single hiveship, you mean just a single ship, we nuke it out of the sky before it reaches Mars.
If it's a single hiveship+support vessels, we are fucked.

It'd definitely be worth a try if nothing else.

>he thinks we have nukes capable of intercepting something outside of upper orbit
>he thinks our nukes would do jack shit to a fucking Hiveship

We got the rail guns, have for a while now, and currently in development are small scale exo suits. One day we may

Congress ensured that will never fucking happen by passing a bill that restricts Trump's ability to make deals with Putin without Congressional approval.

Tldr: we're fucked because McCain is still fighting the red menace.

>comparing a character approximately worth 0.8 primarchs in terms of narrative bullshitium to anything we could do.

remember when he was firing perfect eyeshots on tyranid synapse creatures miles away using a gun that fires monomolecular shuriken stars engorged with retroviruses that turn living tissue into bio-explosives?

or when he bisected a mawloc with his scythe gun, spliting it from its mouth to the tip if its tail.

or how the tyranids couldn't even get him to move in place as the fucker shoulder checked carnifexes and scythed down zoanthropes through warp fields and spore clouds.

god the phoenix lords need new models, and so do their aspects.

Depends on a few things. How far out they are, how far out we can start hitting them, and what exactly we can use.

Start off with a rapid reconfiguration of existing nuclear stockpiles to effective space weapons and starting production of new ones, then start spamming Casaba-Howitzer warheads at it and with any luck it might not even make planetfall. As it gets closer, we need to start looking at more exotic options, most of which don't officially exist but would be brought out in one hell of a hurry if an existential threat to humanity showed up. I'm talking MARAUDER plasma weapons, Blackstar and the X-37B, and whatever other weird shit various governments have locked up. The goal is to keep it from making it to earth, because the second Tyranids make landfall, we're fucked beyond fucked.

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I shall be forever Chitiny and pure

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Every time this retarded thread is posted somebody makes an "I don't understand the capabilities and limitations of missile technology" post. You've made this post and also combined it with the other mandatory "I have forgotten that warships in the 40k universe shoot large numbers of fast, powerful, sophisticated guided missiles with multi-megaton yields at each other as a matter of course, and that capital ships subsequently have several different types of defense against these types of attacks".

So we know everything about Nids and their position, so we can predict everything they will do and prepare? In few weeks?

We would have a whole army trained and equipped with the best tech waiting for Nids to land. Everything above what Imperial Guard uses (IG have kinda shit equipment) and with vastly superior training (our soldiers aren't cannon fodder).

Yeah, modern earth would fend off the invasion. Not without loses of course, but it's only one ship.

A single bio ship is still titanic in size and can instantly churn out millions of tyranids user

Pretty sure user was trying to shitpost about Israel's mythical "Samson Option" but didn't realize that most people on Veeky Forums still aren't /pol/tards so nobody got the reference.

>There is no way that a genestealer cult will take root in any 1st world country.
They could definitely take root in 1st world countries.

It's heavily authoritarian countries they'd have trouble.

>Yeah, modern earth would fend off the invasion. Not without loses of course, but it's only one ship.
Hahahahahahaha

Start here:

No, thanks. I don't want to get autism.

I'm going to vote yes, we can. We know the enemy, we know what they are and therefore can fight them.
Besides, isn't a modern tank better than a Leman Russ?
And this will be a no-holds barred fight for survival, we will release everything we have at them, and I'll be honest with all the nid lore I've read it doesn't mention their immune system, and with that I think we can engineer some sort of disease that will devastate the swarm before they can evolve to cut off those infected, which while this is playing with fire can still work.
Also at any point, there will be civil conflict. That's a given, but since the gravity of the situation is understood by the higher-ups and TOP MEN it won't impact adapting our armies to fighting the Nids.
Our world will, without a doubt, be ruined forever. But Maybe we're just Catachans waiting to happen who knows?

nth post best post

>Besides, isn't a modern tank better than a Leman Russ?
Yes, and still far below the level where it fucking matters. IG get their shit pushed in by nids like 99.99% of the time.

Space Marines get their shit pushed in by nids like half the time.

>And this will be a no-holds barred fight for survival, we will release everything we have at them, and I'll be honest with all the nid lore I've read it doesn't mention their immune system, and with that I think we can engineer some sort of disease
Hahahahaha holy shit nigger are you serious? Their immune system is "we shot these hyper-deadly exterminatus viruses at them, it had no effect, and then a few days later they shot back at us and killed the crew of our ships with a deadlier version of the same virus they reverse-engineered".

Their immune system is "they literally ate Plague Marines and created a disease that can slaughter an entire space hulk full of daemonic Marines blessed by Nurgle."

You have to be fucking joking.

If you are going to bring up every retarded shit from novels and little details picked up from all the codexes, even these outdated, then fucking yes, Tyranids, like everything from the entire 40k universe, is fucking indestructible force of fuck you. Well, besides Sisters.

Somewhere there is a story about how IG wiped out X in a blink of an eye. So what?

>If you are going to bring up every retarded shit from novels
Those are, respectively, from the Tyranid BFG rules written by Andy Chambers himself, the literal creator of the Tyranids, and from the current modern Tyranid Codex.

Tyranids being the most resistant race in the setting to all forms of biological/chemical warfare has been a consistent thing going back forever and is still just as canon today. None of this is obscure or outdated.

Thinking your going to beat nids with disease is like thinking your going to beat grey knights by corrupting them to chaos that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

basically the Tyranids rapidly terraform the planet they are invading for the purposes of making it easier to harvest its biomass, which means the local fora and fauna become more tyranidlike and the air gets poisonous spore clouds, and other wierd shit grows out of the ground.

Essentially the horrific nature of the enemy we are fighting is not something our soldiers are prepared for and there would be no way to maintain any semblance of discipline or morale