Holy shit, this article. I was going to run curse of strahd, and that's what google gave me

gomakemeasandwich.wordpress.com/2016/09/28/curse-of-strahd-correctly-labels-strahd-an-abuser-yet-troublingly-racist/
Holy shit, this article. I was going to run curse of strahd, and that's what google gave me.

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>The Vistani were depicted according to current and historical negative stereotypes about the Roma people. They are shown as drunks and thieves, charlatans and cheats, and child stealers
but they're unironically all of those things irl

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I love this, had a good chuckle

I don't think you -get- shockpieces like this. They exist precisely to trigger you and get ad revenue from you and from everyone else you link this to while crying about it.

People had stupid causes forever, it's just easier to monetize them now. If you think 80s and 90s didn't have moral panics about all sorts of fiction (granted, usually from the christian right although hippy dippy people tend to get involved too), well, they did.

An idiotic blog by a self-righteous uneducated fighter for political correctness is saying some dumb shit?
Amazing! Seriously, I'm completely appalled! How could something like that happen in year 2018! I mean, it's literally a blog that flat out states that it's sole purpose is to vent frustrations with so-called sexism in tabletop games: I'd expect completely rational, non-ideologically colored and well educated analysis from such an outlet!
Don't give them fucking attention for fuck sake.

The man is depicted as an aspirational monster – a monster a PC might want to become, while the woman is crazy and clearly can’t be reasoned with – the sort of monster you don’t want to become
The man is depicted as reasoned and intelligent while the woman is shown as bestial and insane (bitches be crazy, amirite?)
“He’s talking to you, she’s stalking towards you. Also note the exaggerated hip/shoulder twist, is she doing a runway strut?”
The man is a person. The woman is not.
They reinforce social power dynamics; the man is a human-looking noble, the woman is a ragged, filthy-looking peasant
The woman is “spawn”, and is depicted as clearly inferior to the “original”
Given that the “spawn” is unreasoning and feral, the woman is clearly subject to the control of the master
Which makes it pretty fucking gross how sexualized the woman is; if she is feral and unreasoning and subject to the whims of her “master”, the degree of sexualization also implies some pretty rapey stuff about how her “master” could use her for sex
Especially because when you think about the process for becoming a vampire spawn in the first place, obvious rape metaphor is obvious
And there’s definitely a subtext that this is what happens to women who have sex, because she couldn’t resist his sexual advances and now she is damaged goods

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The author is exactly the kind of person who would try to “make friends” with gypsies, and get kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery.

Anyone kind of wonder if these people are secretly the Christian right in disguise, just trying a new tactic after they failed in the 90s?

The religious right isn't this evil. Only the nihilists can be this totalitarian and relentless in their pursuit of perverting reality.

Well we saw the female version of Jack Thompson not so long ago and she was about as successful as the previous iteration.

Like most radicals, they're basically RL trolls so don't feed them.

Let's be honest, none of those stereotypes apply anymore. Gypsies don't steal babies. They just don't work and leech off the welfare, smell awful, pester people for change and cigarettes, make for shitty parents, scream in the streets, steal anything that is metal to sell it to recycling center, and worst case scenario, young boys mug some kid in the evening. Though through be told, they are much more prayed up and victims of physical assaults than they tend to be the perpetuators.
They just generally suck at living urbanized lifestyle nowdays.

Getting friendly with them is usually fairly easy and all you really risk is being annoyed, having to give away all your cigs, catching some lice and potentially being beaten up later by some skinheads.

Yeah those dang postmodern nihilist cucks who promote islamic communism and cultural marxism!

Nihilists don't give a damn. Any popular movement needs an egomaniac behind it, or better a few, and they actively want the fame, the power and the money. Just look at all the megachurches, political foundations, and so on.

>Anyone kind of wonder if these people are secretly the Christian right in disguise,
No, but there is a certain affinity in the deeper logic of religious fundamentalist and left-wing ideologies. Both are utopistic, both crave power and deem themselves unquestionable moral authorities, and both desire to pain the world as a place of constant strife and conflict because that makes their role as moral authority much easier.

That said, I will always have more respect for the religious fundies than the left wing activists.

As a russian, can confirm. If you can tell it's a gipsy just by looking at it, it's also criminal.

I actually love reading this

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That's true of all the poors and it's society's fault for the most part. Either a rudimentary welfare system that tries to change established culture and provides comfortable living to all people, something that is affordable and doable at our current technological level, or we'll slowly go down to medieval murder rates and worse. And then the riots start, guilliotines come out and mass bloodshed kills the poors and the richies.

Social welfare, human rights and laws that guarantee some semblance of equality were made and exist solely for the purpose of avoiding this kind of a thing, but short term profit is more important.

The welfare makes crime rates higher, it makes people into passive degenerates. Human is supposed to work in order to be functional member of society.

Making sure that people can have a full-time job and afford some basic level of comfort and survival, either through establishment of livable minimum wages, cash handouts or other controls is welfare, just like having a working firefighting service, police service and basic health coverage.

This is done by deregulation, not regulating, you idiot. Look at french stagnating economy because of labor laws, its unsustainable. Saying ''you dont support x if you dont support government controlled x'' is retarded. People will get full-time jobs if you fuck off and let them establish voluntary deals between each other, not steal their taxes to pay for nigger welfare, regulate how much they can work and create government monopolies and weak economic sectors, completely subsidized by government

Factually and provably wrong.

You are right that most of the issues of the gypsies are fairly consistent with other poverty striken parts of the population, there are specifics that are quite unique, including their utter inability to manage their own living conditions. I've been working with gypsies, and I've been working with other poverty stricken minorities: and trust me, there is quite a difference. I think it is reasonable to assume that one of the major sources of this issue is the fact that Gypsies at least in Eastern Europe were nomadic people who were forced to embrace settled life, and they really do not want to, and their cultural institutions aren't accommodating for that lifestyle.

As for your solution of welfare: no. It does not work that way. I live in a very welfare heavy state, it does not make the situation better, it may be argued that it makes it worse. Also: learn about the difference between relative and absolute poverty. Unless your welfare state is so drastic that it either somehow enables middle-class like living to the poorer classes (which is impossible), or it drains the middle classes entirely, making them on par in living conditions as the welfare-dependent class: your problem won't go away.

Gyppos are barred from working though as no one hires them. Though I don't know how much letting them work would reduce stealing because some of the problems are in their culture and not in the mainstream.

Speaking of being subsided by the government, how's that military industrial complex and their latest useless batch of planes? What about all the corn subsidies?

Regulation or deregulation, the world is well on its way to a great meatgrinder and frankly we deserve it.

At the very least the robber barons and their ilk will end up in the same hell as everyone else.

Its dumb but there is dumber out there.

>gyspies are good boys dey dindu nuffin
I didn't know the Roma Internet Defense Force existed, but shit.

It's time to go back to /pol/, love

hating gypsies is now pol? Everyone hates gypsies.

Dindu nuffin is actually a pretty apt description, as the main issue with them is the fact that they are extremely reluctant to work and generally assume responsibility for their own condition. Also, you apparently forgot to take your calming pills this morning.

This more or less, and they work hard so even people than didn't care about them end hating them.

You know, I can't help but suspect that OP might be the author of the article, fishing for easy clicks.

That's unlikely, since the article was written two years ago.

But they Dindu Nuffin friend.

In fact, they never Do Somffin. They're just lazy, kind of stupid, and petty thieves. They're not as dangerous as the Jews.

Most people dont cear bout them.

Ah, fair point. Didn't want to click on it, for obvious reasons.

Really, people, if you're going to post ragebait, then at least use an archived version. Even redditors knows that much.

>That's true of all the poors
Normal poors aren't a distinct cross generational culture. They might not be terrible moral, but they don't have an entire cultural framework and mythology to justify scamming gadjos.

Obnoxiousness is the best cultural trait to allow a minority culture to survive inside of a majority one in the modern world. Gypsies are terrible and because they are terrible gypsies still exist. Give them free housing and they will tear it apart. Give their kids every opportunity for education and they will reject it. Just speaking on average of course, there are gypsies which can become ex-gypsies. But the culture itself is obnoxious and without redeeming value in the modern world.

>degenerate
You said the secret word!

Written like a true gypsy.

Only the people who have met them.

But isn’t the plot of Curse of Strahd is he just wants to get laid?

As an american anti-gypsy shit is always weird to me. It seems like this old-timey thing that's always a little confusing when I hear about Eurofags dealing with it.
Like, even that anti-gypsy episode of House was weird for me.

I lived in a city where there wete gypsys. A nuiscience is the most i could call them. Dont gamble with them, avoide eye contact and you should be Golden

European gypsys are more annoying than american because they stoped trying to pickpocket you and starter to try to scam you out of your money

I'd be more cautious around shifty looking crackers. They might shoot up a school or something, you know?

For you Americans, gypsies are like non-violent nigger. They steal, they don't do nothing, they are content to crawl in their own mediocrity, but they will not suddenly attack you like apes.

>some pretty rapey stuff about how her “master” could use her for sex
>Especially because when you think about the process for becoming a vampire spawn in the first place, obvious rape metaphor is obvious
>And there’s definitely a subtext that this is what happens to women who have sex, because she couldn’t resist his sexual advances and now she is damaged goods

Yes, actually, because that is what the original Bram Stoker's Dracula was about. It was about fucking STDs and literally parasitic nobles and old vs new, enlightened vs ignorant

Except Dracula wasn't originally attractive, in the book he's a gross old dude. He didn't become handsome until Lugosi got famous for portraying him

This is all part in parcel to the entire Vampire mythos

Is this a fucking well-reasoned literary reference in a Veeky Forums shitposting thread???

I had to study this shit for a whole semester back in the day in community college. And we analyzed the shit out of that book like only a bunch of humanity majors in a cheap CC could. It's now perminantly turned into my fucking cranium like the mitochondria being the power House of the cell (as well as a symbiotic organism simply biding it's time until it can supplant the human race via an opera singer)

But this post you're replying to lists a whole bunch of things they did wrong.

I get it, but it's still such a strange thing to hear about. Like, one of our comic book writers talked about how gypsies fucked up a movie shoot he was on in Europe, and he's just persona non grata now, nobody wants to work with him or admit he exists.
To think there's a whole form of bigotry (deserved though it may be) that Americans don't capitalize on is weird.

IIRC there was a New World of Darkness book that had yet another evil gypsy family that could be used as villians.

As the Roma are one of the most abused and persecuted minorities in Europe, a perpetuation of such stereotypes might still be harmful.

GUESS WHY

I really don't even know if you are serious with this.
One is the artwork depicting Count Strahd or an example of a player character, who could be a vampire. Of course it needs to look reasoning and like someone with agency.
The other depicts a different creature; a monster - the vampire spawn. It is NOT looking sexual or doing runway strut, it is prowling ferally towards the reader, communicating that it is a dangerous creature with a hunger for blood. If this thing looks sexualized and feminine and submissive to you, then you are looking actively for those qualities.

There is a million goddamn images of cool, powerful vampire ladies full of piss and vinegar and intelligence and agency out there.
The "Vampire Queen" is a trope as old as sin. You are being an idiot.

I think the organized nature of their extended families combined with the fact some of them really do live on the fringes of society and are heavily into petty crimes make a lot western europeans feel kinda weird about them.

Like, we can deal with a woman or man falling on hard luck or fucking up his life, becoming a lost cause and drinking and begging in the streets, or even stealing.
But when you organize a squad of 20 beggars to canvas the busiest shopping areas, while faking horrific injuries or amputations, fake-crying, pick-pocketing and generally getting fucking organized and industrious about it, most of us end up feeling like you might as well pour that shit into something actually productive.
( I don't have any problems with them, and I work with a roma who started his own business cleaning and renovating for other business-owners. Him and his family are fucking great, but there is a serious problem in a lot major european cities with roma-clans essentially running organized petty crime networks)

>wordpress

It's not a fucking stereotype, it's the backbone of their culture. Gypsies are not going to stop stealing until their own culture stops glorifying theft. Those fuckers have been in Europe for over 500 years and not made one single step towards assimilation into proper society, even at the base level of OBEYING THE FUCKING LAWS.

They do more than that. They are a culture that has lived alongside us for centuries yet refused to assimilate in the slightest and have lived a migratory live until not so long ago (e.g. my grandma remembers when they would live in caravans and move from town to town, some probably still do). The also practice a lot of things that are highly questionable nowadays. They kidnap girl and force them into marriage when they are still in their teens. They pull kids out of school early. They forbid women from doing anything but sitting at home. Having a job is actually looked down upon.

There is no conspiracy to make traditional games politically correct. Characters in fiction and gaming communities simply change with respect to the latest cultural values. But you fedora-tipping cancerous fucks always blame imaginary SocJus boogeymen when people start hating you for the shit that you do. As long as you continue to refuse act like decent human beings, people will keep noticing.

But of course, you will keep blaming imaginary "SJWs", "poseurs" and "normies" when you the public hates you for the scum you are. And let's not even get started on how you all react to games becoming more popular and easily accessible.

>getting your panties in a twist about a wordpress blog

Interestingly, Christfags and feminazis are known to cooperate on things. For example, porn.

To be fair, most programs that were ment to integrate gypsys were also shit. I had a freind who worked in one and said that the main problem is that they are made by people who have no idea how gypsy culturels worka and wasted huge amounts on money on things that people told them that would never work

Most charity programs are like this. See it in Africa too. That being said, user is pretty right - Gypsy's aren't BAD people, but their culture is 100% incompatible with modern society. It's literally "fuck you I got mine", the only thing that matters is your immediate family, working for in and among outsiders is shameful, why are you wasting your time when you could getting more in more "clever" ways (making no distinction between 'clever' and 'dishonest' as they are culturally one in the same)

Oh, americans. The only thing they know about gypos is from watching the fucking Hunchback of Notre Dame by Disney.

Why are there so many applesponge threads these days

Did we do something to anger moot

>gypsies won't steal your baby
>they'll just lie, steal, commit assault, throw trash everywhere, con you, spread parasites, rape, and murder

Whew, I was worried for a sec.

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The wisest part of all this is that since they’re a ‘separate culture’ the minute you point out how awful thy are you get jumped on for ‘just hating travellers you racist.’

There was a thing a while back for example where a bunch of travellers bought farmland for cheap here in the UK.
That land is cheap specifically because it HAS o be used for farming.
So they built a little town on it.
Illegally.
The local council told them to fuck off with their illegal town.
They didn’t.
The police showed up to make them fuck off with their illegal town.
They got their children to go and talk to the media about how T-THY JUST HATE TRAVELLERS ;—;

Shit was so clearly fucking rehearsed, it was despicable.

>I really don't even know if you are serious with this.
He is quoting from the article OP posted (or more precisely it's second part, which somebody also linked for laughs). So your anger should be directed at whoever writes this laughable blog. But then again, you should really remind yourself: whoever writes that shit isn't worth even being mad about.

They have roving gangs of gypsies ripping off the elderly. There's just not enough of them to make much of a mental impact, they have bigger things to be told to not to worry about.

>tripfag shilling for radleft idiocy

This shit is like poetry.

Hes right about there being.no sjw conspiracy though

Sjws are more of a cancer than gypsies. At least gypsies are upfront and open about their shit.

Be glad that they still roam in your country. That means they'll fuck off eventually.
In my country, they don't roam, they have been forced to settle down by laws and remained settled since then.
Result: they form fucking semi-permanent ghettos, which needs to be periodically moved because after about twenty years they basically render the place uninhabitable, making human-rights activist raise alarm and find a new "more suitable" place to live for them, which they will once again just ruin in two generations.
Plus, they lost basically all even somewhat admirable cultural traits (like social cohesion) in the process, now they are just really shitty version of white trash. Pure, undilluted rednecks that happen to have dark skin and have their own dialect.

>Hes right about there being.no sjw conspiracy though
True. Conspiracy implies secrecy, manipulation. SJW and modern left is completely 100% open and straight with what they are doing.
Does not make them any less of an actual problem though.

But can they tell the future?

>Sjw
>Mildly annoying rants, can occasionally get a black dude on a trading card
>Gypsy
>Break into houses, stab people, literally steal babies, can't go to jail because forever pregnant

Yeah nah, you have no idea how the world works. American?

He said they'll just act presidental.

>SJWs
>100% straight

user

The monster manual isn't strahd and his brides you dip it dracula and his brides, and it's not because women can't aspire (?) to be full vampires it's just not the archetypal reference point.

No, but I don’t live in a shit hole either

All things I posted happened in a first world country.

Sjws have literally ruined people’s careers and made it impossible for them to work in their field and provide for themselves and their families. Hardly mildly annoying. Get a clue.

>checks thread
Yeah I think I get where that blog is coming from if it's all it takes to make Veeky Forums go "gas the kikes"

Please. That shit happens everywhere. If not gypsies, some other minority. Or meth heads.

>Being so afraid of the shw boogymen.
Even sjws arnt so obssesed with the rvil whitey as antysjws are with sjws. Just gry a fucking room allredy

If you were so shit that a sjw can get you barred from your workplace you were never good at the thing you were doing and would have gotten the sack sooner or later

You truly are retarded. I apologize, user. I had no idea I was dealing with a being of lesser intellect.

>But can they tell the future?
I've met only one gypsy woman who did it, clearly in a pretty terrible and inept attempt to start friendly chat with people so that she could eventually start pestering you for money.
She was - hands down - the WORST medium I've ever seen, and I'm pretty sure she got the idea to try hand reading/fortune telling from some western TV show.
No tents, or living vagons, no horses or house animals, no weird india-looking clothes, no ethnic dances or folk music, no traditions, strong social ties, little to no emphasis on extended kinship ties, no expensive funerals and weddings.
It's mostly just shitty poor people that talk very loudly, can't be bothered to send their children to school or find a job, don't clean up after themselves, scream all the time, don't use birth control and make a lot of noise in the night because they simply have absolutely no consideration for anyone or anything.
That is the real state of most eastern european urbanized gypsies. What ever made their society and culture unique and distinctive has been absolutely destroyed.

So... not France

>Even sjws arnt so obssesed with the rvil whitey as antysjws are with sjws
Dude, a man in the UK is going to jail because he joked about his dog being a Nazi. They aren't a bogeyman anymore. Many of their more extremist and radicalist views are becoming normalized in the culture at a very rapid rate. Sorry, we aren't going to turn a blind eye like you might like

>Just gry a fucking room allredy
What does that mean?

>Sorry, we aren't going to turn a blind eye like you might like
I love when you fags act like you can do anything about ut

>feminist blog

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Just raising awareness of it is doing something about "ut"

youtube.com/watch?v=gdSZb0iwU2k
dailymotion.com/video/x5vc42q

Last year a family of gypsies got sent down in the UK for abuducting 18 retards and keeping them as slaves, the longest for 25 years. So maybe they wont steal your babies, they'll still steal your downies though.

It's clearly working out well

I'd rather try something than live as a complete defeatist.

What I can tell you is there is a growing unified community of intellectual resistance to far-left ideals. I am noticing far more vocal opposition to this stuff now than the last two years, and less people who would otherwise be meek now standing up for logical and rational discussion vs. neo-mccarthyist lockstep "compassion"

did those bastards execute the dog too? I bet they did

to be fair, theres a reason nobody gives a fuck about gypsies even though all other hints of racism are horribly taboo. those stereotypes are actually fairly true historically ;)

(well that and the same 'jewish advocacy and hatecrime' group that'll probably murder some poor pug led protests against the idea of including names of gypsies and homosexuals in english holocaust monuments and fought tooth and nail against the idea for decades before a gay advocacy and hatecrime group became powerful enough to force the issue and gypsies got a free ride while they were at it)

Not sure if you're trying to imply the entire story didn't happen in the first place, or you're just fucking around. But I'll post it here anyway

newsweek.com/youtuber-count-dankula-who-taught-dog-nazi-salute-faces-jail-hate-crime-853470

I'm honestly concerned about the dog's safety

Ah, the UK. A country where organized rape gangs can brutally torment children for years, and not only will the police not help, but threaten the victims to cover up the crime in order to avoid having to act and appear racist. The country where, at the same time, a gag no worse than a Month Python skit gets you jail time.