Tfw majoring in software engineering

>tfw majoring in software engineering
Did I fuck up Veeky Forums? My country has free college anyways but I feel like I chose a meme career. People especially women look at me funny when I tell them I'm majoring in engineering. Will I at least make some good money?

Money? Maybe middle class wages. Programming is becomming the new blue collar job. Thank all the pajeets you meet.

Source, t.me 20 years in the industry

just say u do cybersecurity

sounds cool

>software engineering
>meme career

Uhhhh been listening to Veeky Forums lately? Software engineering isn't really a meme. You'll be sure to find an at least decently paying job. It might be boring though.

enjoy being outsourced when you hit 30

You aren't majoring in engineering. maths is the only true way

$350,000/year SWE in California here. You'll make it, son.

Shit, what major is worth it then?

don't listen to this fag. he's just bitter because he's old and no one wants to employ him.

its a good decision compared to other dumb shit you could major in. get a internship as soon as you can with a reputable company and you'll be set.

College dropout here.
Started as a C# code monkey at 55k six months ago, have now transitioned to Linux sysadmin at 90k.
You don't need to go to school for any of this, bud. If you've been a computer enthusiast for any decent portion of your life, you're already so far ahead of most people.

non

Software engineering isnt real engineering you massive faggot

he's right you know. Automation is really going to pull the floor from under you in terms of wages, if you're not at the top of the stack of engineers at your company you'll be hovering just above the lib. arts people

>rent: 8999 cuckbucks/month

Why? Is it some faggot bullshit like "it's too easy" or something? It is not easy by far even if it's easier than other engineering majors. And who cares about how hard it is anyways, what matters is how much it pays.

If you aren't a complete retard you will do the degree to actually learn stuff and then use that to make your own company.

You should be labelled a software technician KEK

2k so 24k/yer for meh. Pajeet not allowed

everyone in here hating on SWE is just mad they don't have a six figure (that doesn't begin with 1...) salary, lenient as fuck work hours, chef prepared lunches, etc. What fucking job is better than this? Work hard for a few years, catch a good exit, you're a millionaire

Software engineering is an easy degree along with all the other engineering degrees, nuclear eng. exempted.

If you live near a major global city (Hong Kong, Tokyo, Dubai, etc) then it's probably worth it. Otherwise I'd just go with doctor/lawyer/generic traditional success degrees.

CS/CE is fine. My brother got an internship and MSFT and gets like ~$9k/month.

i don't believe you.
had it for 2 years and left it with no regrets. Nothing wrong with it, but people that think 100-200k salary is the thing to aspire to are basically negros.

Bachelor's degrees are a cakewalk across the board

Not bitter at all man..... I'm highly employable, and employed, love what I do. Truth hurt Pajeet?

Programming or IT? I know any half decent company chooses an english speaker vs ESL. They can't handle project management for shit.

Ai will soon replace the need for simple monkey work programming

>easy
>insane workload which leaves you zero free time to even breathe
Maybe if you're autistic and have zero social life. My social life is basically having painful small talk with my classmates which are all awkward as fuck and nothing more because I spend all day studying.

I do accounting work for my companies IT department and ~70% of our workers are foreign born. IT manager is from India and he has a short temper

What are some better options than computer science?

>Programming or IT? I know any half decent company chooses an english speaker vs ESL. They can't handle project management for shit.
I am going IT, personally because I'd rather do it than code.

Shitcoinology

net income: 240k/year
what point are you trying to make

If you are not a shit programmer, you will make it. My GOOG RSUs are worth more than 99% of peoples crypto portfolios on Veeky Forums

This. Everyone wants good programmers, not some pajeets who will produce the kind of horrible code you will spend 2 decades fixing and eventually dumping.

that's great but most people at your company net around 100k, what a joke.
I bet you didn't start at 350 either.

Senior actuary earning the equivalent of $276,000 USD here. I could have went the CS/SWE route but I decided that strictly working with numbers was much more enjoyable. More than the salary, prestige, and luxuries, I genuinely enjoy quantifying all day and using my firm's software to make accurate forecasts which I wouldn't have access to otherwise.

With crypto headed in the direction that it is and my firm having recently released positive reports in favor of adopting and integrating blockchain technology into our systems, I was approached to participate in early tests since this hobby of mine was known by senior partners for several years. Can't say much more due to paranoid but I'm so fucking hyped for 2018, even with all the regulations coming our way. It's going to be a little less fun with not as much volatility but everyone's memelines are definitely going to be more on point.

Do we have any engineers here reporting in?

I work as a software engineer.

I am paying for my master's degree out of pocket and have 42k in retirement savings / mutual funds. I drive a newer sports car and always have about 10k liquid. I'm 2 yrs out of school.

I also put 7k (initially) in the crypto and am just having fun watching the ride. You'll make damn good money. Way better than the avg normie - way more than any of my regular pals from hs.

Im a Software Engineering Grad with free college too, what country are you in? Scotland? Denmark?

I've got a really good grad job lined up when I graduate, can't believe I actually got onto it. Starting salary is £37k.

Just keep at it user, don't think of grills. They really do not comprehend the real world around them, the concept of STEMs having more value in the world of work goes over their head and they want to justify their shitty meme degree having as much value as yours but they'll realise in time it doesn't.

You're gonna make it

>insane workload which leaves you zero free time to even breathe

There are likely people in your class doing the bare minimum of studying and scoring better than you, sorry to break it to you.

I'm at a top 10 uni for a direct PhD in theoretical physics and go out every weekend. I also did this during my BSc and published 3 papers in my senior year. Likewise all my friends in programs like pharmacy and graduate level math do the same. Not that any of this matters since you'll likely call it larp.

You likely underestimate how efficient some people are.

lmfao get good fucking retard
I barely did any work at uni and came top of my year twice before dropping out because it was too easy
now I make £78k/year in london after a few months professional experience and I have offers for £90k

if you have to work hard you won't make it against naturals

he's just mad because he's shit and thinks everyone else finds it as hard as he does

what kind of consumerist cucked lifestyle are you living that 100k/year ~starting~ isn't enough?

I agree with this somewhat. If you're giving up your social life completely just to try and get by with your degree you need to re-evaluate.

Maybe the lack of going out is making you more stressed and you can't focus?

hey dude. some of us aren't meant for academics even if we're capable. (adhd fag here, score in 95% percentile for standarized tests and a STEM major)

besides, who cares what the fuck white collar society thinks of you when you can make a wage cucks yearly salary in a week on meme coins. when you make it just consolidate your wealth into getting comfy passive income and then buy businesses or hire wage cucks to fulfill your dreams for you.

>People especially women look at me funny when I tell them I'm majoring in engineering.
Really? I understand some roasties finding that being a computer nerd is unattractive but it seems weird for them to actively shame you for it. Fuck roasties.

I’m planning on majoring in Electrical engineering, am I in for a dead end major or no?

i'm talking about california. I looked into the rent situation there when I was looking at an offer from a shit company (that everyone loves even though they murdered a couple people hint hint)
Anyway you'd be dirt poor if you took one of those offers, I spend around 3200/month average where I live currently but I calculated it on an itemized basis and it would be 6700 there. FYI it's almost exactly the monthly net income from the cash compensation they were offering. I guess I'd get stock options and better benefits but it would still ammount to less.

they'd rather be around someone with no education than a cs grad. it's the truth you have to accept at some point

if you are a good coder and are creative you can become an entrepreneur with that skillset for a chance to escape the waging

>some of us aren't meant for academics even if we're capable
yep me neither which is why I dropped out

I'm actively investing the bulk of my salary into crypto so I can stop working sooner rather than later
it's nice to have high paying job offers flooding in since it means I can risk more of my money knowing I won't suddenly be left with nothing

power to you bro if you've already made it

Switch to CIS

This. My friend made the same switch to CS from EE and really enjoys what he's doing

>People especially women look at me funny when I tell them I'm majoring in engineering.
They wouldn't if you were goodlooking.

Hows CIS job outlook? Any field in specific of CIS thats hot right now? Preferably not fucking IT. Id rather that be worst case scenario.

I’ll look into it thanks anons

Just do a fuck ton of problems from leetcode and you could get an internship at FANG companies

You can basically feel the moment her pussy dries up the moment you mention engineering. Shit fucking sucks. I just lie now and tell them I major in accounting or business whatever and the conversation is magically less awkward. Makes no fucking sense when engineering is a superior major but it sucks regardless. I just wish it wasn't the go-to autist major, I can't even make a study group because my classmates refuse to socialize.

I've never experienced this. What is a degree that roasties find attractive, then?

I did Programming, but you should probably pick whats best for you or you'll fucking kill yourself

I'm enjoying the /r9k/ potential here

>attractive
Trust fund
Sports scholarship

There's literally no way any sane girl thinks ACCOUNTING is more interesting than software engineering.

Ideally it's the one they're studying or the one Chad is studying.

I've personally never experienced that women care that much about your degree, as long as it isn't obvious bullshit.

They don't think it's interesting, but they see betabux, nice clothing, and it's considered a stable field. Also a lot of them are too stupid for accounting but they know what it is so it's relatable. Whereas CS is just so far off it scares them away.

Why are you asking this on an faggot pirate site like 4gay?
People on here are mostly losers who would never be able to graduate in any degree.
Remember this is also the site where people think their basic Hobby knowledge is superior to an Bachelor degree.

Don't listen to idiots and go study hard.

>I'm at a top 10 uni
What a meme

It fucking is though. A friend is majoring in accounting and he actually has a decent amount of women classmates. I have no idea why they're so scared of computers.

Doesnt matter. They probably look at youre funny because youre ugly and autistic.

I'm talking California too. You can get by on 100k very happily; that's what my starting salary was.

>t. lives in San Fransisco

I'd have to cut costs a lot to save anything. offer was for 122k, was earning 100k at the time.
I could have at that point just cut costs where I currently am and saved the same amount or more.

user you fucked up, Computer Science is the major everyone does to become a Software Engineer, not Software Engineering major. You should have researched this. Switch majors NOW to Computer Science

This is not a meme I'm being serious just trust me or fuck off.

...None?

I highly suspect you guys are just handling the conversation as autists (who would've thought). Part of being in STEM is telling people your degree and 100% of the time receiving the age-old "oh wow, I'm acknowledging that you are in something impressive, but I literally don't know anything about what you do and fuck you for sounding smarter than me" response. You should know what I'm talking about.

The trick is not to let it just linger there while you stare at them for approval. Follow up with some normie-friendly quip. This shit is exactly the same as a girl asking "so do you work out?" to Veeky Forums and them replying with "Yeah I'm 3 months into SS, put on 5 pounds thanks to GOMAD." No you stupid mother fucker, you say something like "Just Wii Fit and the occasional Zumba class." It's not hard guys.

>software engineering
have fun being a peasant code monkey for (((them)))
Go hard and get into cyb for that dank ass contracting dough

If you're a skinny or fat nerdy looking guy and say you majored engineering or CS it basically reinforces preconceived notions the girl already had about you. A goodlooking guy can say any degree and she won't think anything negative.

this is larp. no girl would be able to tell you lift if you're on starting strength.

lying about working out doesn't translate to lying about your profession
And yeah you're right the whole thing is mostly based around people wanting to feel smarter than you.

Dude $100k in San fran is jack shit.
Go out to the east coast or midwest where your $80k will get you twice as much.

I got offered $90k to work in chicago and turned it down for a /comfy/ $75k at 23 in Michigan

you picked the best field in the universe user. SE, CS, cybersecurity are about to escalate to Godlike levels in the new Anarcho-Capitalist Crypto dynasties that are unfolding.

I'm 5 months into stronglifts and my fat half-beaner fuckbuddy raves about my back gains every time.

if that's detroit, pretty based user. enjoy your 50k mansion.
I tried to do that with a defense contractor that had a presence there but I didn't get an offer.

All wagies make money for (((them)))

The alternative is being an open source NEET

This dude is a faggot and has no idea what he's talking about

Software engineering is a very stable base for you and will help you immensely if you want to invest in crypto

shit u right tho
>pic relatedango

Not a mansion but I'm living pretty nice and being so close to the airport is also really nice for flying for some contracts.
Straight up though, go to your local BSides/Con/Defcon or 2600 Group and network.
Everyone's autistic there so there's not the stress of talking to HR normies about tech. Once you talk to another engineer, they can get you an interview quicker than a badass resume.

I'm always so confused by these high as fuck salaries. I'm in Germany and nobody I know would ever get $100k in their job. Ever. The average across all fields is around $45k. With a CS master's degree the starting salary is around $51k. Maybe $60k if you're starting at a big company.

In what fucking world is $100k not considered high as fuck? That's more than double of what most people earn here, and they live very good lives. But somehow double that is not enough. What.

Yeah maybe my analogy was bad. The point I was making was to quickly dismiss logical details. "I'm taking software engineering" is white noise to unintelligent girls.

kek. enjoy looking like the blahino in the future.

The American markets are saturated with shitty pajeets tbqf.
It takes 2 American engineers to fix one fucking dune coons shit.
Once pajeets code gets pushed to prod, my work as a red teamer comes into play and it's ez money.
Straight up, H1B is cancer. I fucking HATE filthy "I-got-into-cs-for-teh-muney" pajeets.

More often than not, your basic software engineering job is going to be around what you said because there's so many "coders" in the market rn.

That's why it's crucial to find something that's hard and become good at it. Whether it's fortran/COBOL (fucking rolling in money), hardware or embedded, cyb, blue team, red team, etc.
The lower the level, the higher the salary.

I have a nice pajeet pentest story if anyone cares.

Im stuck between military and contracting after or majoring in CS? By contracting Im talking about private military companies. Money is good either way but I dont want to do boring shit in an office all day

anybody else here an accounting or finance major?

Im double majoring in both, I never imagined college would be so easy, but as long as this can land me a M-F office job making 45k or more, it'll have been worth it.

>red team
>blue team
I see you guys came up with more buzzterms since I quit

lol. everything non-stem is easy

US isn't fully socialist though, so some wage earners slip through the cracks and can save large amounts per year with a nice lifestyle.
But then again I've heard of laborers in europe making 100k so who knows

Yeah it's getting poopy. Defcon 25 was for sure my last one.
>implants
>IOC
>APT
>CoC
The list goes sadly on.

Clients have probably gotten more retarded since you left, so no shocker there.

it costs like 80k a yr if you want to live in a closet in san francisco

I haven't the faintest idea what any of those mean and I quit 1 year ago.
Thank god for crypto.

Then you probably shouldn't live in San Francisco in the first place.