Mfw genuinely considering becoming a scammer

>Mfw genuinely considering becoming a scammer

After yesterdays debacle, I'm seriously considering becoming a scammer and creating something like BitConnect. The people who lose their money in this in all honesty deserve it. Many of them are STILL defending the same people who just robbed them blind. It's unbelievable.
Literally all it takes is some false promises and Reddit shill accounts and they will buy into anything. The same people who ran BCC have now likely told the shills to switch to promoting their other cons, go through the BCC Subreddit (if you can) and you'll see it's the same people now shilling other scams, lmao. It's so fucking easy...

You'll see numerous posts like that go a little like this:
>Shill 1 makes a post "I'm considering investing 50k into this"
>Shill 2 or genuine sucker will tell him to do it
>Shill 1 then comes back later "Guys I did it! Ignore the FUD, it's great!, etc.
>Normie sucker who is reading and going through the same process in their head then has now been given a solution, they had those same doubts, but look, they've been shown the way! He just said it's great! I guess I'll buy too! He's just like me!

These people are sheep and sheep get slaughtered.

Is it morally wrong to separate a fool from his money? We all know it's easy, but is it wrong? They are ignorant and deserve everything the get, imo. What are these people spending their money on in the first place? I believe I am doing humanity a greater favor by stripping them of their idiot funds, which they'll likely use to create even more idiocy.

So yeah, throw me some ideas

Urgent Veeky Forums alert: we are currently getting brigaded by angry jews injecting politics as an attempt to divide and conquer. Evidenced in multiple threads. Just sage and ignore.

Probably but this isn't related to my post

too late, bitconnect was the big one, everything that tries anything similar will barely get any traction

I just hope this fiasco raises some awarness and people start investing on the actual good coins.
Scams aren't healthy to the market, decentralized nature of cryptocurrency is both it's strong point and weakness as literally anyone can make a coin.

Just don't do it on Veeky Forums, we have enough pajeet scammers as it is

Nah, you're stupid. There are plenty of fools mate.
DYR.

They won't. YOU WOULD. But they won't.

Just don't forget to include some clues that what you are doing is a scam. Otherwise it'll fuck up your karma.

>good coins
if only. there are < 20 "good coins" right now. we would need a bear market of a size and length never seen before to cut out all of the shitcoins, and some of those shitcoins are so ingraned in the top 10 that we might never fully get rid of them, like litecoin.

as soon as things start picking up again there will be another big ponzi scam that normies will buy into, especially people who have been screwed in the past. For some reason, people who have been conned wind up being more vulnerable to future cons, even from the same conman.

>Being a good person
Being a good person means caring for society, no? I will be doing society a favour by lessening the power that these kind of idiots have. Without their money (however they got it), they'll create less mess.

These people are better off as slaves

fucking lol. i bet you think you're one of those people too.

No, being a good person means doing what the bible says. The bible would never condone stealing from innocent people. You COULD maybe somehow construe a very weak case for stealing from the bitconnect scammers themselves but even that is probably not going to hold up.

The definition of 'good person' depends on everyone's own view really. Personally, I think of good as not doing something I would not want someone to do to me. Caring about society or systems is just dumb.

Conjecture, faggot
I'm just stating the facts

You think this is the first rodeo for these clowns? Ponzis are a THING. This is not the first, and it will not be the last.

Wake up

>The Bible
Fuck off faggot
>inb4 muh ahtietsmsmmm
I'm not even anti-religion, I'm just not religious. I believe in god, I don't believe in muh jesus christ da savvvooirrr listen 2 him or elsss

>Caring about society is just dumb
Are you retarded?

>Are you retarded?
Do you honestly care about every person on the planet?

You know it's wrong, otherwise you wouldnt even bother to make a thread. Stop lying to yourself and yes, go start researching the bible. Watch videos from Steven Anderson on youtube and go with Christ. Belief is hope in things unseen, Hebrews 11:1

I care about my my local community, wider society, and the general direction of humanity, all to different degrees.

So yeah, I care about every person on the planet, just not all equally.

So again, are you retarded?

It's not wrong. I just like discussion.
>Christ
Jesus, you people are as stupid as the BitConnect fools got rinsed. You sound like them too.

Give me a quick rundown on BitConnect, I completely missed it.

>So again, are you retarded?
I don't know why my statement would make me retarded? Systems are things made up by people, when centralized they can be manipulated and become dishonest. They are still things you have to put up with to have any decent living though. While you care about society and maybe even contribute to it (we all do in some way), your contribution will always be negative to someone else. There's no overall good.

I like honest way of living and what I said is very honest. I don't want to be killed, thus I don't kill anyone else either, etc...

there are so many avenues for scams

in order of difficulty:
imitate authority and ask for private keys
create scamsite for PKs
create wallet app which steals PKs
do an ICO without plans to deliver ("whoops, [insurmountable obstacle] happened, can't do the project anymore")
create exchange and exit scam
create elaborate exchange platform with ponzi-scheme token and pay youtubers to shill it (BCC)

I have the programming and social knowledge to do a minor scam, but I'd feel bad about it. still considering doing a meme ICO though (like UET)

>make a facebook page
>call it super cool get rich off this coin page
>sell "coins"
>all the coins are written down on paper with no technology or anything backing them
> increase price a little as more people buy in
>profit???
>people wont sell because they think they are getting rich
if their is a run on the banks which their wont be because der this is the next bitcoin der hodl then you just say everything got hacked and keep the money.
Any thoughts? Improvments? I really am thinking about doing this just messaging people to buy crt v wouldnt do it to people I talk to but stupid stoners from high school i would sell to like no other

You're completely fucking retarded.

>"i'm spiritual but not religious"

Enjoy living in soft agnostism and vice, faggot

what if your scam is so good that even intelligent good people fall for it?? this would be very evil

okay do it then, I'm not going to stop a sinner from entering hell. Have fun while it lasts, your soul will burn in hell for all eternity. Dont say that nobody warned you.

Ponzi wherein they claim a """trading bot"""" can give them 1% everyday
Collapses when Bitcoin tanks
Anonymous owners walk with approx 2.5 billion in BTC, send everyone back their worthless Bitconnect token which is plummeting due to news of them shutting down

>your contribution will always be negative to someone else. There's no overall good.
Sorry for calling you a retard, I though you were trolling. Yeah that's kind of my point, though. The "greater good" really trumps all. I believe this more now than ever before.
I would be acting for the greater good by limiting the power that these people (the ones who fall for this kind of thing) have.

Implying
You Christcucks are all hypcorites to the highest degree. You claim your religious but we all know you wank to cartoon porn and do nothing for society. I'm a better Christian than you, and I'm not even Christian... lol

Interesting point
I suppose if you were smart and/or cunning enough to pull something like that off, then you could maybe argue the same but in a "the world is mine, I want everything that is mine", kind of way. Sort of like le spookman Stirner

elaborate this could work

You're*
Oops

>all the coins are written down on paper with no technology or anything backing them
>increase price a little as more people buy in
>elaborate this could work

It's not going to be listed anywhere and no one will give a fuck about your self-cited "price" you fucking retard, not even the dumbest ghetto Shaneequa would fall for that, you are so fucking stupid.

You're a fucking idiot if you think they walked away with 2.5 billion worth of BTC

your not selling the "price" your selling them getting rich on the page their will be marketing suggesting that it will be the next bitcoin and money now could be worth billions later get in now your standard marketing gimmicks. they wont do research because their normies and will just believe what they are told thing their going to get rich for nothing

>N-no you see your honour, they DESERVED getting scammed so I deserved their money!
>I DINDU NUFFIN
This is you, OP.

I scam for a living. Not with cryptocurrency but with fake news + online casinos.

I've been using Bitcoin for one of my recent campaigns and it has absolutely killed it.

Here is an extract:

"One Bitcoin is currently equal to around $12,300.00 and is increasing by the minute.

The casino takes the $10.00 deposit made by players and instantly changes it into Bitcoin then resells it back onto the exchange as Dollars. This is how the casino makes it’s profit.

From every $10.00 deposit made by players, the casino comes out with around 0.2 BTC which allows the casino to offer insanely high odds to players while still making a profit themselves.

They’re basically using the players as instant Bitcoin investors.

The average player comes out with between $250 and $300 from their initial deposit but some players are coming out with insanely high wins."

I get between 1500-2000 conversions every single day. Let that sink in.

There are a lot of very stupid people in the world.

Probably less, but they undoubtedly walked with more than 500 million

No it isn't

>because their normies

oh buddy. oh man.

Interesting. Whats the site?

Don’t.

Just build your own ico and sell out as people get in.

If you register it in China nobody will ever catch on to you.

There is literally a fuckton of useless coins and tokens, that will never have a real usage that made their creators rich based on a white paper and a little pr.

In regards to the morality, I would argue that my type of scamming is a lot less harmful than the crypto scams going on.

The average player will deposit 50-100 USD and then never use an online casino again. This is probably going to teach the guy a harmless lesson.

Compare this to the BCC ponzi where people lost their life savings.

I've spent a lot of time pondering the moral implications of scams and the conclusion I've come to is that in many cases, the value of the lesson outweighs the damage done to the victim.

Wow

I've thought about starting a MLM/PONZI as well. Why don't we start one here at Veeky Forums where everyone gets in at the ground-level, then we shill our shit relentlessly to normies and niggers. Finally putting our pajeets to work

I work for numerous casinos and get paid on a CPL (Cost Per Lead) basis.

I'm not going to go into all the details as I have done so in a few threads in the past and it just ends up taking hours to explain.

Ok, except you dont get to make your own rules for morality. I know, hard to imagine for an atheist.
As soon as you get to make a rule that allows you to scam 100 bucks from somebody to teach them a lesson, I will allow myself to cut off an arm from you for scamming people. I will also feel very much justified. And now the circle has just begun.

Okay, no problem. Interesting to hear anyway.

How do you build your own ico tho

>Ok, except you dont get to make your own rules for morality.
LOL

>The average player will deposit 50-100 USD
>The average player comes out with between $250 and $300 from their initial deposit
It sounds like the average player profits, though. That doesn't sound like much of a scam.
>and then never use an online casino again.
Losing repeat business. It sounds more like the casinos are getting scammed.

This is the shit I need to get into! Honestly I would sleep like a baby every night.

Yeah right. The redditors who bought into it were saying "Treyvon has 100k Youtube followers! He said he was rich on twitter! I thought he was credible!" These people are dumb and will stay dumb.

Can you link to a thread where you explained it?

Did you not read his post or what?

Yes. Consolidation and culling the shitcoins is necessary.

i didn't understand either everyones going along with it so ive been going along with it hoping it makes sense
>put in $10
>get .2 BTC
>Where? How?
i don't understand post either didn't make sense

>>put in $10
>>get .2 BTC
Yeah this makes no fucking sense at all, dude must be high.

I know right!

None of it pens out. $10 isn't worth .2 BTC even if you can do a transaction for free. People making $250-$300 from a $50-$100 outlay aren't being scammed. Casinos who depend on continual new customers are bound to fail.

Would happily shill your shitcoin and market it to soccer moms.

Bitconnect ain't the only scam niggas

TRON TRX is also a big scam

DENTACOIN is also a scam

SUBSTRATUM is also a fat scam

TETHER is also a fat scam

your mother is also a fat scam

Link not on the list, gonna treat myself to some dew dew.

not as fat as your sister

fags,

crypto crashes will continue for next 3 weeks like clockwork everyday

are you guys retarded or just trolling?? The guy says that in his articles as part of the shill to convince the mark

Being a good person is to do what is objectively 'not bad'. If you know you have the potential of fucking over innocent people, even if it's only every 1 in 10 people you scam, you're not a good person.

Morals are retarded in this day and age, but you aren't a good person if you're genuinely saying you want to scam someone. There's a fine line between a genuine idiot and someone who isn't well informed. A person new to crypto could get suckered into your scam easily if it looks legit enough, because they don't know what 'legit' is. Even if you take money from the retards who don't deserve money, you're definitely not doing favours for the people who do deserve it and could make a change, but are just ignorant of how to.

Go scam people if you want, just don't do it here. Go do it on reddit and shit.

Did you even read my post? I WOULD BE BENEFITING SOCIETY BY REMOVING POWER (THEIR MONEY) FROM THESE IDIOTS.

These people have money, therefore they can make change. Do we want these fucking idiots making change? When they are so easily duped?

That is my point. I would be "scamming" the small X to benefit the larger Y.

Confirmed Jew. You are a born scammer, congrats

Nah, quite the opposite.

And did you even read mine? You're NOT benefiting society by removing it from people who just happened to get into crypto late.

You can't dictate that the only people affected by the scams are retards. Someone just getting into crypto who intends to overthrow the boomers, donate to good causes (not shitty charity, etc), etc, but doesn't know how to start will get suckered into a well-presented scam far easier than they won't be. When 50% of posts in every thread are fud, new people won't know what the fuck to do to decipher it.

You aren't a good fucking person by relentlessly scamming everyone who comes your way by justifying it as 'scamming the bad people', because you don't know if you're only scamming the bad people. If your scam was, for example, something that only targeted CEOs, there's a good chance everyone you scam is corrupt in some way. If your scam is something that can be easily accessed by the bottom-tier shitters, that's when you have no way to regulate who gets suckered in, and you can no longer pretend to be the Robin Hood of crypto.

There's a very big fucking reason that the lottery is considered 'a tax on the poor'. If your scam is obviously too good to be true, it won't matter to the people who are genuinely desperate and see it as their only way out.

Like I said, scam whoever the fuck you want. I'm not going to moralfag you. I'm just telling you to not justify it as being benefiting society if you can't guarantee the only people who are being affected are the corrupt cunts. If you were catfishing specific people it'd be one thing, but you're not.

I don't care about corruptcunts.

Idiots who fall for scam are fair game.

I'm not a scammer but you have to stop being a little faggot.

>Happened to get into crypto late
Implying that is why they lost their money. No my friend. They lost money because they are ignorant and do no research.

>You can't dictate that the only people affected by the scams are retards
Can't I? I just did. Am I wrong? I don't think so.

>will get suckered into a well-presented scam
And? So what? People get suckered into murdering others. People get suckered into genocide. What the fuck kind of argument is that? Lmao

>You aren't a good fucking person by relentlessly scamming everyone who comes your way by justifying it as 'scamming the bad people', because you don't know if you're only scamming the bad people
Where did I ever even imply the're bad people though? They're fools, and fools shouldn't have power. Money is power. They should be stripped of this so as to avoid further fuck ups.

>I'm just telling you to not justify it as being benefiting society if you can't guarantee the only people who are being affected are the corrupt cunts.
See above. Your reading comprehension is utterly abysmal. Whoever said they're corrupt?

You're retarded and don't understand my point

Yeah, you skipped the post, too. I'm telling him to scam whoever the fuck he wants, just don't justify it as being for the greater good. That's actually being a faggot because you're trying to convince yourself you're doing something good when you're not. It'd be a different story if he actually knew how to catfish.

$1000 is the difference between living and not living for someone poor and desperate who heard of everyone making crypto gains. $2 mil is literally nothing to someone who you would want to take money from.

Sounds like you're a sociopathic fuckstain who doesn't actually know what he's talking about and just wants to take the recent shenanigans as a chance to justify his desires to rip everyone off.

Someone who was born into a poor family didn't necessarily get to where they were because they made bad decisions or because they'd make bad decisions with their money.

Your entire argument is a fucking fallacy. Go scam whoever you want, but you're genuinely autistic if you think you can justify it as helping society. The people you will 'ruin' are the ones who never had any power with their money in the first place. You won't 'take power' from anyone who can actually do anything with their money because anything you take from them will just be a small chunk of their portfolio.

You don't have a point to understand in the first place. You're a sociopath playing mental gymnastics to justify who he is.

>Someone who was born into a poor family didn't necessarily get to where they were because they made bad decisions or because they'd make bad decisions with their money.
I WAS BORN INTO A POOR FAMILY, YOU STUPID FUCK. I STARVED AND SLEPT ON THE FLOOR ALL OF MY LIFE. I DIDN'T HAVE A BED UNTIL I WAS 18 YEARS OLD. NO EDUCATION, NO QUALIFICATIONS, NO SCHOOLING WAS TO BE HAD FOR ME.
Do you think I accepted my position or changed it through my own hands?

There is no fucking excuse. You know how I got out of that? I uplifted myself. I ascended on my own without aid from any fucking one. I took time and analysed all things before me and made a plan to escape, and then I did.

You have no comprehension of my argument because your IQ is about 80.
>Muh fallacy
How? Are you saying it doesn't benefit the greater good? If so, why not?

>You're a sociopath
No, I just understand things that you obviously don't

Go fuck yourself, you actually pissed me off, I won't lie

>No, I just understand things that you obviously don't

top kek you are such a little faggot

sorry, he's a massive fag indeed, prob a tranny too

>I was born into a poor family
>haha because I was born in this one specific situation that means literally everyone who can't make it out is retarded
Yeah, in the era with the largest economic crisis to date and the highest percentage of unemployment, the people who were born poor deserve to stay poor unless they can magically pull money out of their ass.
No, you're a fucking moron. Fuck off with your subjective bullshit and your worthless reasoning. Your one situation is literally irrelevant. If you got rich from a poor situation, you got objectively lucky. There's a good chance it came out of crypto, too, so fuck right off with your garbage.

>are you saying it doesn't benefit the greater good?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, because I know you're too fucking stupid to know how to guarantee the people you're targeting would be ones that made the world worse. Your entire argument, literally every semblance of it, for justifying why it's for 'the greater good' is that you're taking power from those who don't deserve it. You taking money from a poor person who never had any power isn't helping the world at all. You taking a paltry sum from someone who uses their power badly isn't even going to fucking phase the only people who could justify your bullshit reasoning.

>go pissed me off, I won't lie
>I magically know things you don't
Apparently you don't know you're a fucking sociopath, that's one thing for certain. Keep trying to justify it to yourself with your baseless, backwards reasoning that was pulled out of your ass. Go cry in a corner if you're sad.

Wow nice rebuttal
You really shown me

Prove anything I've said wrong

how does you getting rich contribute to the greater good? are you going to use the money to give back? or do you just want a excuse to steal?

>Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, because I know you're too fucking stupid to know how to guarantee the people you're targeting would be ones that made the world worse
THEY MADE THE WORLD WORSE BY INVESTING IN AN OBVIOUS PONZI SCHEME
HOW SIMPLE DO I NEED TO MAKE THIS FOR YOU

>RETARD HAS MONEY.
>RETARD GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON RETARDED SHIT TO FURTHER CAUSE RETARDATION ON SOCIETY.
>SCAMMER TAKES RETARDS MONEY USES IT TO BETTER SOCIETY AT THE COST OF RETARD
>WHO LOSES HERE? THE RETARD.
>WHO WINS HERE? THE REST OF SOCIETY.

I DIDN'T EVEN READ THE REST OF YOUR POST BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR YOU'RE AN IMBECILE

It doesn't have to. But let's say I was doing it purely to scam them for my own gain and not to reallocate the funds to someone more responsible than someone who falls for ponzi schemes (me in this case), then I would be benefiting society more instantly.

For example, If BitConnect gave all of their proceeds to various charities tomorrow, would they still be negative overall? I don't think so. They simply took money out of morons hands, and redistributed it in a smarter way than any of the retards who fell for BCC could have, to causes that benefit society.

Th

Would love to work with you on something... wanna open a telegram or discord where we talk about scam ideas?
Fuck honest money anyways, retarded people would rather invest in scams that they know to be scams so that others lose money rather than invest into honest, good projects and services.

Let's make those retards bleed.

This guy is definitely trolling, it’s too good at drawing all of our attention

It's more likely that BitConnect scammed them for personal gain, but even then, I'd wager that the guy who made off with the funds will spend the stolen funds on things which will benefit society more than the people who got scammed.

I'm not trolling. What you are describing is your brain switching on and realising you're a retard

No

Go suck it.

>I’m not trolling
>Generic insult
>Please give me attention like mommy never did

It’s worth it. Made an airdropped shitcoin, promised to release a bunch of things and hyped the coin up with partnerships, then sold all coins I kept for “bounties”. Made me $100k that is now $430k even after this crash and I was a massive poorfag before that. It was totally worth it, people are retards.

Don't reply then? It's quite simple isn't it dumb cunt?

>I'll just type in all caps for everything I say to show just how ANGERY >:( I am
Not an argument.

>person born poor
>goes to as many free colleges and collects as much information as they can muster to get a job
>gets no job because they had no connections and weren't able to beat 10000 other people
>can't move to get a job because no money for car, fuel, registration, etc
>sees people getting into crypto and getting rich, everyone tells him to get in as it's his only one shot, which is why so many people are in crypto nowadays
>could potentially be excellent with money, but the thing everyone is shilling the most, and the hardest, is a ponzi, so gets suckered in
>loses all money
Ignorance =/= stupidity. I gave you a completely arbitrary example because you gave me a completely arbitrary sobstory. It goes to show that subjectivity is worthless. You are trying to say you're objectively doing it for the greater good because you're 'taking power from people who don't deserve it'. Someone's life savings of $1000 and one shot at life with crypto isn't going to have power in the first place. Someone with $2million who has enough power to influence some shit negatively isn't going to care if he loses 100k to you.

If you genuinely want to take the moral highground with your ass-backwards, sociopathic reasoning, at least learn to catfish. Otherwise, fuck off.

In the beginning when I first read the thread, I thought you were just fucking around because scamming is easy money, which it is. But you've genuinely convinced yourself that you're a good person based on this shit lmao.

And when I sold I crashed the price completely by like 80% so I lost a lot of people money but the coin looked like an obvious scam, even worse than bitconnect.

forget scamming my dude you should go into the Olympics with that mental gymnastics of yours.
If you're gonna scam people just do it stop pretending like you're a good person, no one is

You are correct, it is very simple.