Hate restaurants?

Still pretty autistic.

you were scolded by your waiter? what the fuck? theyre supposed to be the servants, not the manners police.

I can make a better tasting steak using choice from the butcher counter at price chopper than most restaurants can, though i know how to make things to suit my personal taste. quality of meat only goes so far in my view, though it's definitely a factor.

they need to do that in those shit holes because their income relies on being exclusive for hoity toity people and if some pleb is enjoying themselves then others might feel like they aren't as rich and aloof.

Not quite scolding, I guess. Chastise? No, that's a bit strong, too. It wasn't quite mocking, either. I don't know how best to describe it, sorry. Lecturing, perhaps? Suffice to say, he definitely went out of his way to try to embarrass me about putting my fork off to the side rather than leaving it on the plate. He made a small scene about taking it from the table and haughtily instructing me on the proper etiquette and how I'd get a new fork with the next course and each course thereafter.
I laugh about it, but when I think of it, that minor snobbery might be all he has, which is sad. He reminds me now of that bit from That Mitchell and Webb Look with "the incredibly posh people who are still, unaccountably, waiters."
>"and for sir, a consommé which, as every schoolboy knows [provided your school wasn't free], is to be eaten only with a vichyssoise fork"
>:: hissing :: "it's all in the wrist!"

I guess in the moment that would be so shocking you can't really respond, but fuck that guy, he's a servant. he's literally a pleb.

I probably would gotten pissed then politely asked for his manager to come talk to me, then said I was insulted by the waiter and asked for another one, then regretted doing that later since I could have just not left a tip since I apparently don't know the proper etiqutette.

>Too many unspoken rules and niceties to be observed
>so many poorly defined codes for what you or they should do in any given situation.

yeah, you have full blown autism. For the first time ever on this site, I don't mean that negatively....just being honest

I'm not quick to anger or even embarrassment and, as it was a meal in my honour, I hadn't paid a penny towards it. My biggest regret is that we went there in the first place. I'd have much rather taken my parents out and paid for the meal and drinks myself, actually, but they insisted they treat me.
They enjoyed themselves, at least, so that's good. And I got my silly little burger logs later that night, so it wasn't a total loss. I'm happy that they were happy.

I had the table get pissed at me when I handed my glass the the waiter while she was collecting drinks to refill at buffalo Wild Wings.

And then I avoided it later with a different crowd and they wondered why I just sat there.

Fuck it all.

>And I got my silly little burger logs later that night

Is this like a euphemism for something, or what?

I agree i have trouble going to the super market and people seeing what kind of food i eat let alone having to tell someone what you would like to eat

guy he responded to here. he said he got those burger hotdog things at the world trade center place (that's a euphamism), if you read earlier into the dialogue exchange.

see > once I got my parents back to my place and into bed, I went out to 7-Eleven for a pair of those hot-dog-shaped burgers they sell

I dont like when im taken to a 50$ a person Steakhouse thats some low level of "fine dining". And I probably wouldnt enjoy a real fine dining situation.

But honestly, im sitting here thinking.
A cheap steakhouse
A place like chilis
A habachi grill
A sushi place
A pizza joint
A burrito joint
A burger place
A sports bar
A mexican place
A greek place
A mcdonalds

I cant think of any way that I change my behavior in any of them. Whether you buy beer or tip depends on the restaurant. But thats literally it.

Common courtesy is common courtesy

>I don't think I've ever been to a restaurant that served food better than I could make it.

This desu. Especially when I order steak I feel ripped off because I could have bought a much better cut, got more of it and cooked it better at home.

He banged his parents? Thats gross even for this board.

I only go out for Mexican food and sushi, everything else I make myself.

Only the insecure think there are unspoken rules when it comes to most restaurants.

If it's a fine dining deal and there genuinely are unspoken rules such as about the type of cutlery you use, no one actually cares.

The sushi place is the only one I can see having wildly different dining etiquette. Granted, those may apply mostly in Japan. I guess if someone were to try and give you shit over proper etiquette outside of Japan, you could show them up with your weeb knowledge, but that just makes you seem like an asshole.

I rather just go to a respectable restaurant like Noma or Osteria Francescana even the Librije will do. That's food I'm not capable of making at home and it's utterly delightful. But it does require to take a little drive or to charter an aircraft.

Yes, you sound like you have crippling autism

These "rules" are the same rules that apply anywhere outside your man cave

i kinda see where you are coming from.
I personally am really unhappy/almost pissed if i pay high price for a pretentious mediocre meal, if the whole atmosphere says 3-michelin-stars and the food is badly done, i get pretty angry, though i wont articulate it, besides to my gf.
Still, there are hundreds of different categories of restaurants and you certainly cant do evth bettter, for example some og asian foods, really top notch high class restaurants, stuff thats intense from a workload perspective etc.
I live in a large town and i visit, literally, only 3-5 restaurants regulary of the hundreds ive been to, i think thats legit.
tldr, most restaurants are bad, find the ones you really like

i hate them too
you are supposed to sit in a shitty chair in a table thats always too small, covered with a tablecloth to hide all the real nasty stains that are hard to clean.
waiter comes brining some old stale bread with the tinyest dip as if it is some sorth of delicasy, bread and butter? really? how is that shit better than mcdonalds?, ok so you ordered the beverages and you sit there way too long, nd its always way too long because im not making the food at home, its being made by a team of people and a cheff in batches, its supposed to be faster.
it finally arrives, its often good but never too good, mistakes are covered with some sauce but you still know they are there, you eat the food that doesnt even sound as good as when you ordered an hour ago, when you where hungry, someone has to piss, if anyone wants a desert you shoot him a i will fucking kill you glare and after another half an hour you are allowed to pay your ransom to be left outside.
the people who go there are nasty and never could be far enough from my table, especially when tables are so close together someone cutting some steak may accidently elbow me in the face, they bring their kids, they bring their elderly, they are loud and they get drunker than a bar whore.
Worst part is that you are supposed to go there for every birthday and celebration, you are supposed to pretend its some kind of luxury you look fowards to and you are supposed to act like you enjoyed it and you look fowards to the next one.
Compare it with a friendly barbecue where you are surrouded by friends, you eat what you want and how you want it. Yeah restaurants are shit that cant offer me a second of enjoyment, not even while eating mym meal, i begun meeting my family at starbucks because i rather have subpar coffee in a couch while listening to instrumental music than go through food hell

ITT: people who went to the "kitchen nightmares with Gordon Ramsay" restaurant

How do you people find these places?

Can't wait until all waiters are replaced by ordering machines.

I want to sit down, order my food, eat and get the fuck out.

I don't care to fucking small talk with some minimum wage fuck and have to leave him a tip for making my dinner tedious...

Here's a tip you self entitled, unskilled laborer, waiting ISNT A CAREER. You SHOULD hate waiting because its a shit job you do when you have no other skills.

>all waiters are replaced by ordering machines
that's only going to happen at fast food places and Ryan's Country Buffet.

>Here's a tip you self entitled, unskilled laborer, waiting ISNT A CAREER. You SHOULD hate waiting because its a shit job you do when you have no other skills.

truth

Lived in japan while studying abroad...

Most of their mid-small restaurants all use pay machines.

Super convinent, super fast, no hassle and GREAT food. Fits well with the busy Japanese lifestyle.

Don't see why mass adoption wouldn't happen here.

You only really need waiters at fu fu 8 course tasting meals or decent stakehouses where you're PAYING to get your ass kissed...

Yep, that definitely comes off as extremely autistic.

Frankly, I think to most people the unspoken rules and niceties at a restaurant are second nature they don't even notice or think about.

>Not to mention, I don't think I've ever been to a restaurant that served food better than I could make it.

This isn't really the point. I can make food better than 99% of the restaurants I've been to as well, but the point of a restaurant is that I don't have to. I don't have to cook, I don't have to clean up, nothing. I sit down and eat, that's it.

>Can't wait until all waiters are replaced by ordering machines.
The faggots working on AI and automization of unskilled labor are saying that their devices will necessitate a minimum living wage oayed for by the government, since their work stands to put so many unskilled people out of a job.

Don't think it will make things cheaper. It's just a new excuse for the government to tax you harder than ever.

>durrr
wow you people are stupid. You anti socialism people really have no idea how capitalism works do you? do you know why waiting isn't a career? it's because the pay is shit. do you know what would happen when everyone gets better jobs? the waiters would have to be payed even more to be made to do such a shit paying job. It's called supply and demand, and for us back of the house the only thing more frustrating to us than the front is you fucking shits. Get out of our store. we don't want your service. People who don't tip and are entitled fucks make the bottom line in an already hard to stay afloat industry impossible to toe. the least you fuckers can do if you aren't going to play by our rules is shut the fuck up and eat quietly instead of bitch incancessantly. I know it must be the only reason you get up in the morning but that shit doesn't belong on a restaurant. God help you if you black list your room-mates out of every local pizza joint. You should be strung up on a tree like christmas decorations.

What restaurants besides ramen joints and gyudon shops have ordering machines? Those are like the only ones and thats mostly to discourage you from asking for substitutions.

I honestly can't remember the last time I have worn pants while I've eaten.

Living the dream.

Someone else will make them. it's like the prisoners game. It wont ever replace human labor at non shitholes though.

the difference, dumbass, is that in japan, not only is their work ethic better, their hours horribly long. but most of them don't move from job to job. so the fucker you see working and waiting you at that restaurant? most of the time theyre in there for life, that's what they've decided to do. Restaurant work in japan IS a career. Japanese people are so busy they only have social acceptance for 1 and exactly 1 hobby. if you have any others as an adult you're a weirdo. Japanese people's wages aren't great, but they don't pay their waiters 2 dollars an hour either. they get paid their full amount and don't have to suck dick desperately, they just focus on their job, and doing it right.

Job switching is becoming more and more common in Japan, especially among the young. But you are right the shitty McDonald's job f you stick with it typically has a set course for becoming a manager and the managers regularly end up working in corporate if they desire after a while. But the biggest thing still in Japan is you have to put in your time no matter how good or bad you are and you advance.

there's nothing autistic at all about the way he presented his opinion you retarded abbo fuck

christ when will australia be banned

Someone else will program the roboterminals and AI, but presumably a lot of the phtsical assembly will be able to be done by other robots. And even then, programming is a skilled profession. The average person stuck as a forever-waiter or register slave isn't likely to be involved in the jobs the automated terminal market will open up.

I hate the expensive pretentious restaurants with portions that are never satisfying.

I didn't mean things like using cutlery correctly and dressing appropriately, I meant more your interactions with the workers at the restaurant.

You're not dumb, and yes restaurants generally mark up the price of pretty awful food

source: worked in a kitchen microwaving shit then charging customers £30 each for it

Fucking libertarian stupidity.

WHO'S GOING TO GO TO THE RESTAURANT IF NOBODY HAS A JOB?

I'm a programmer, so I'm set, for now anyways. But automation isn't just taking the dumb jobs. Main targets of AI right now actually are medical and law, which both work great with Watson style deep searches.

So unless you own the AI, or can program, you're shit out of luck in 10+ years. The problem for society as a whole is that that's 90% of the population, and our current system only distributes goods to those who have employment.

So again, who's going to buy the robot made burgers?

THAT'S why you're hearing arguments for a universal income lately.

Aw, does fatty need his double quarter pounder app teazer?

I don't like them much. The food is never good enough, the service is usually rubbish and you could eat better and more relaxed for much less at home.

Or to lie to make myself look important