Do restaurants present a conflict of interest in nations with socialized medicine?
Many national chains and lower end family owned places have to compete with each other for the best tasting food at the most competitive prices, which means sacrificing high quality ingredients for loads of sugar, salt and fat, which then raises the medical costs of citizens who eat this regularly.
Should restaurants be held responsible for the 1000+ calorie bombs they serve as meals?
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>calories are bad
I'd definitely say single meals that contain 1000-2000 calories in a single portion meal (see: Applebees, cheesecake factory) are definitely bad for you
It's all about exercise.
I'm hitting 4000 calories a day currently, lots of crossfit and lifting.
Just get some hard PT into your day and you can pretty much eat what you want.
Agreed, we need to phase out socialized medicine.
Well yeah, of course. But does that describe the physical activity of the average person? That's what I am talking about.
No. No one is forcing citizens to eat there. They could learn to cook instead.
What "average person"? A blue-collar worker who buts butt all day? It's no problem at all. Some fatass sitting behind a keyboard? Different story.
2nding this. Perhaps if people were held responsible for their own dietary choices then we'd have less obesity in the world.
True but if more people did just a little bit more exercise society would be healthier and calorie excess wouldn't be such a problem.
>What "average person"? A blue-collar worker who buts butt all day? It's no problem at all. Some fatass sitting behind a keyboard? Different story.
this. I had to eat 4000+ a day just to maintain when I was working 60+ a week in the shop.
Disagree. Someone in a reasonable pattern of eating can eat a 1000-2000 calorie meal every now and then, and it will be unlikely to wreck their health.
The problem is not that places sell this kind of food. The problem is that people assume eating it on a regular basis is normal, they wonder why they're fat. But they don't really see themselves as fat, because they look at their peers and most of them are fat, too. So that becomes their baseline for normal.
It's not the restaurants' fault, but stupid people and stupid agricultural policies that makes it cheap to buy fattening food. In a world where you can get a pizza for $5 there isn't much incentive to buy food and cook it yourself if you don't know any better.
>blue collar worker
>doing manual labor
>average in America in 2016
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. america is a service economy, you fucking retards.
The thing with excess calorie intake is that it sneaks up on you over time. You don't really need to eat crazily excessive food to get fat, you just have to eat more calories than you burn on a regular basis. One year you're up a couple pounds, you hardly notice. The next year a few more, but so what. The next year you're a size up on your pants, but you needed to get some new pants anyways. A decade later you turn around and you're obese.
This. I think a lot of people here also underestimate just how many people regularly eat out. "every once in a while" doesn't realistically describe it.
shooo shooo /b/
Really makes me think
>shoo shoo
>implying anyone still goes to /b/
>implying everyone didn't go to /b/ back in the mid-2000s
fuck off, tumblrfaggot
some of us never left doublenigger
now that's progressive posting
We need more than progresive to move forward. But, ok, little steps
>anti-socialized medicine
>progressive
U wot
If you didn't abandon /b/ by 2009(maybe 2010, if we're being generous), you're legitimately brain damaged
It's a false that you're buying into thinking frozen shit is more expensive than fresh. Any restaurant relying on frozen shit to compete will fail.
calm down doublenigger
>maybe if I keep saying doublenigger I'll fit in
kek
eliminate fat/added sugar from your diet and this phenomenon goes away, for the most part.
>fat is bad
Love this meme
>eliminate fat from your diet
horrible advice, enjoy your decreased brain and immune function. if you're eating vegetables without some olive oil, you're doing it wrong.
I got fat by enjoying rich food too often while not really doing much in the way of exercise. And once you're fat that weight fights to maintain itself. A fat person eating a reasonable calorie intake will be hangry, because maintaining their stasis requires more calories than a skinny person with the same level of physical activity.
It took me years to get trim again. Now that I am I can't eat the kinds of meals I used to - I feel stuffed, bloated and disgusting when I do, because maintaining my current state requires much fewer calories than when I was fat, even though I exercise now. Exercise is good and you should fucking do it. But be realistic: unless you're training at the level of an athlete your workout is really only going to burn a few hundred calories - maybe the sandwich you had for lunch if you're lucky. Really losing weight is mostly about not eating too much, and when it comes to most restaurant food hitting that line of too much happens long before you've finished your meal.
I wasn't eating much sugar. And a lowering your fat intake only makes sense if it's excessive. Really in my case it was a matter of simply having an unrealistic concept of portion size, particularly when it came to high fat foods, and it caught up with me over the years.You need fat in your diet. What you don't need is almost every meal to contain almost a day's worth of the stuff.
stay mad
>doublenigger
5/10, got me to reply multiple times, but too incoherent and nonsensical to earn anything more than a 5. try again next time, little guy!
I got no problems maintaining my weight because I don't eat fat. I can eat until I'm stuffed. There's a little fat in everything, so I'm getting enough of it.
triplenigger
>I don't eat fat
>there's a little fat in everything
what?
He's saying that he doesn't go out of his way to make sure there is fat in his diet, nor does he eat "fatty foods", because all foods contain sufficient fat to maintain health.
>all foods contain sufficient fat to maintain health
they don't
fun facts:
if you don't get enough protein in your diet, you will die
if you don't get enough fat in your diet, you will die
if you don't get enough carbohydrates in your diet, you'll feel a little sluggish
Oh go fuck yourself. I'm downgrading you to 4/10 based solely on the lack of effort in you're trolling.
Not just restaurants but grocers as well. We need to move, ultimately, towards caloric limits for everyone. Now this probably wouldn't go over well, so we have to discourage it first through increasingly burdensome taxation, licensing schemes to limit who can sell food, and what types, and the banning of certain things.
You're not me, faggot.
Interesting, but I think you're kidding yourself a little bit. I would say my own diet has become low fat compared to what it was back when I ate a more typical American diet, but I still use olive oil and eat nuts when I'm not having any animal fat (which is most days).
This is true, but most people have no realistic concept of what their needs actually are, especially when it comes to protein.
I am me
I am me
You're not really doing a good job of disproving my "/b/tards in 2016 have actual, medically significant brain abnormalities that seriously hinder their cognitive functions" supposition.
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You're not really doing a good job of disproving my "/b/tards in 2016 have actual, medically significant brain abnormalities that seriously hinder their cognitive functions" supposition.
kek, you fucking spoon-fed.
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Not him, but you see lots of fat plumbers, framers, carpenters and even laborers in the USA
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Why are shit posters ruining my thread
because this is what i do when im dead in csgo
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>but I still use olive oil and eat nuts
if you want to get trimmer, cut those out too. You will be amazed at how lean you can get, and you'll feel great.
At my age (48) I'm happy to be wearing the same size pants I wore in high school. I don't need to go any further than that. Also: I fucking love olive oil.
Every bit of fat matters. i'm in my 30's and am thinner than I've ever been. Which is amazing since I've always had trouble with food. Turns out it was the fat in my diet which made me crave food. Replace fat with complex carbs, like beans, and everything is under control.
literally insulting someone on an internet forum by saying they use another internet forum.
are you kidding me
>doublenigger
Try again, retard.
American posting at prime time, worse than Australians.
>OP asks if restaurants should be held accountable for serving highly caloric, low quality meals
>idiot oversimplifies it to hurr calories are bad
Found the retarded fatty
tumblr is to Veeky Forums as friends is to seinfeld
You're never going to be muscular if you keep eating like a woman.
You need protein to be muscular, not fat.
You need healthy fats, too.
This is why socialism is cancer. Enjoy your state-mandated tasteless food.
Enjoy going bankrupt when you get colon cancer.
Why would I go bankrupt? I have insurance.
You won't find out what is and isn't covered until you actually get sick. Your oncologist may need a new boat, and the chemo he prescribes you might not be covered by your insurance.