So Veeky Forums, are you down with the cause?

Isn't it a Jesuit school?

yes, and that's part of the reason that i chose the school. i majored in philosophy, and the jesuits have done an amazing job at protecting continental philosophy (bc muh aquinas) at the collegiate level.

you can google the philosophy dept's faculty, it is really well-rounded and features people who specialize in many faculties of philosophy. there are a great deal of professors there who study and teach eastern/african philosophy on top of other stuff.

the chair of the department is a woman too.

also, the matteo ricci school is, i believe, the full-blown liberal arts or honors school, which obviously is supposed to be a "holistic" education. from looking over the syllabus a couple of years ago, from what i remember they did a pretty good job of teaching the "marginalized" lines of thought

fwiw i converted to zen buddhism while at my time there, which is obviously the most european white guy school of thought ever

Only cause I'm down with is cause and effect, and pic related

>literature from other cultures

Why bother?

This will be seen as a time of decline.

with books written by the modern muslim women :^)

like im malala etc

This is appaling 2bh

>Joining a wave of campus activism around the Seattle region against alleged racism, a group of students at Seattle University have begun an occupation of their college's front office, complete with pizza, pillows, and Beyonce's Lemonade album playing over speakers. They say they won't leave until Jodi Kelly, the dean of the humanities-focused Matteo Ricci college, resigns.

in a normal country the deam would call the police, get her office cleared and then get several of those students expelled, also possibly sued if they damaged something

there's nothing wrong with a student protest.

it doesn't mean some shits can occupy an administrative building

I only see 1 white male in the image which is a positive I guess

>complete with pizza, pillows, and Beyonce's Lemonade album playing over speakers.

user, I want to agree with you so badly. I really do.

>Beyonce's Lemonade album playing over speakers.

Jesus H Christ

Yes there is, protesting is for proles

By having a school cop pick them up and toss them on the curb while you put them on academic probation for making a fucking scene

Yeah we get it, you're a trump supporter

Yeah, we get it, you're a self-hating cuck.

When will this PC trend come to a close? 10 years? 50 years?

The Roman empire took centuries to decay.

There's protest and then there's holding a glorified party in the Dean's office and using racism as an excuse. Look at what they're actually complaining about. Racism my ass, they're self centered spoiled children.

is your whole life meme-based or just your political beliefs?

He's right though

Ironically these students wouldn't even be enrolled if it weren't for affirmative action, yet they take every opportunity to bite the hand that feeds.

Their behavior is disruptive to students who worked hard to get into university and want an education.

>complete with pizza, pillows, and Beyonce's Lemonade album playing over speakers
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>Their behavior is disruptive to students who worked hard to get into university and want an education.

it should go without saying that i find what they're saying and how they're going about it to be a bit silly, but the idea that their "behavior is disruptive to students" is quite the fucking stretch. no classes were prevented, and students are able to carry on as normal. or are you really that fragile where a group of 30 protestors prevents you from concentrating on class?

>get into a Jesuit school only because Affirmative Action forced them to accept you
>complain about getting a Jesuit education
Where the fuck are white people supposed to go if they want a classical education? Fuck these dumb kids, they could have gone to any big state university if they wanted the shitty modern watered down garbage they serve up at universities these days.

This. As Fedora as I am, it's pretty ridiculous to enroll and pay tuition to an institution with a clear agenda and then flip out when that institution continues business as usual.

Maybe if this were Princeton in the 60s and there were no other options for a boy who wants to be a big-shot lawyer, but there are loads of alternatives to Seattle University.

they are disruptive for the staff

i wouldn't hesitate to call the police if i were on the staff

Name one non-European culture worth studying.

>disruptive for staff to walk through students eating pizza
>"th-th-they should call the c-c-c-cops"
>this level of mental gymnastics

In other words, you're a normal person. What are you doing on Veeky Forums?

music etc crap

It creates an environment where authority isn't respected and loud antics are used to garner attention. These people are supposed to be learning to write and think, not have rap parties in a public building. It's anti-intellectual to the core. They remind me of the assholes who show up late to class and call the professor by their first name, magnified by 100.

It's happening at other universities.

the fuck are you talking about? have you attended college? student protests are a dime a dozen. i fucking attended seattle university and uc berkeley and this shit is a common occurrence.

i have no idea who these people are, as i don't live in seattle anymore, but these students are also the ones who protested against the university for firing professors who attempted to form a union to organize for collective bargaining rights against assistant professor positions. the same shit happened; sit-ins, calls for resignation, etc. should the cops have been called then, or are you just being a faggot because of the spooky SJW skeleton is here?

so you are telling me that they are commies too?!

Yes. Political protests should be banned on university grounds. I've seen enough dead fetus posters and shrieking women in my life.

>colleges should ban free speech and peaceable assembly

is your fetish for authority a result of a missing father figure? i'm here to listen, friend

It's not a public area, though. If they tried this shit at a shopping mall they would get arrested, and they know that, so they come to universities for free tolerance and attention.

>that fucking ad
Holy shit, the neoliberal propaganda is everywhere. Everyone is an entrepreneur, his "own capitalist", lel.

i didn't say it was in a public area. colleges have a vested fucking interest in protecting free speech as, you know, the very protectors of that kind of thing.

>or are you really, seriously trying to equate what a shopping mall and a college are as institutions

>stuff that old racist and sexist white guys wrote down
Are people this garbage? Do we need to go over the fact that moral consciousness has been expanding since the beginning of human history, and that it's only now when we've started to think that racism and sexism were bad? Isn't this something you get over when you're a teenager? This is like looking into the Stone Age and getting disappointed when you don't find Renaissance art. We should judge literature first by its quality, second by its author's personal biases, and third by where & at what time the author lived.

>Do we need to go over the fact that moral consciousness has been expanding since the beginning of human history, and that it's only now when we've started to think that racism and sexism were bad?
kys

>Princeton
>Law

Undergrad and then on to law school elsewhere, autist.

> yfw one of the old Jesuit professors loses it and goes full Coriolanus with a few exiled professors, concluding with him running at the students with a claymore in his hands whilst spitting dank verse

I agree wholeheartedly wrt public universities, but private universities are a different matter. Do they also have protests when the Jesuits don't talk about the positive aspects of Martin Luther's theses? Do Wiccans complain about the lack of fertility goddesses in Madrasas?

i think it will be funny if the pendulum swings back and we get a new age of racial segregation when shitskins will not be allowed into the unis

The best answer to this is Harold Bloom's, which, contrary to popular opinion (), does not consist of exalting literature while decrying everything else. Bloom actually says that looking for politics or identity issues in Shakespeare is just misguided, one might just as easily write political dissertations on baseball. If one really has an obligation to expose oneself to other cultures, then the best way to do so probably lies outside of sitting in a room reading a novel. Reading Melville helps one understand Melville, not a culture.

The problem isn't the protest, it's that their protesting the wrong thing. Real racism, sexism, discrimination and oppression exist in the world. Those who seek to end them ought to fight harder to end the wage gap or promote better trade practice in Africa, not alter college curricula. If that crusader still insists on taking on inappropriate media, let them take on NCIS or Game of Thrones, something which a cat-caller or other active scoundrel might actually partake in.

tl;dr, if you want to fight inequality, perhaps you should spend more time doing that and less time reading philosophy and literature

I was already planning on it, thanks for the reminder though.

>the wage gap
awful bait

This would work if the elites weren't educated in universities leading them to control the world economy and governments. It's better to influence them than some poor African kid.

I would tell to protesters to fuck off to a non Western country if they want non Western culture. Is that so hard? Why do libtards want destroy their own culture?

>They call me aggressive and emotional
I've met too many of these exact women

> I agree wholeheartedly wrt public universities, but private universities are a different matter

they are really not, and the fact that the university privately owns the land that they are on has literally no bearing on whether or not students should be able to protest or not as it is absolutely not a matter of land ownership, it is the expression of free speech and assembly--which the academy is supposed to be THE symbol of. the private/public thing you are stirring up is a red herring, because you'd be barking up the same tree if this happened at UC berkeley.

>Do they also have protests when the Jesuits don't talk about the positive aspects of Martin Luther's theses? Do Wiccans complain about the lack of fertility goddesses in Madrasas?

this is a total non-sequitur, and i hope you know that. these students aren't entering into a monastery, they're entering into university. i've said before that i don't agree with what they've said but they have every right to protest for or against it. you seem to be totally butthurt about this belief and the very idea of protesting seems to hurt your feeling so very badly that you want to call up the police and get the bad guys taken away, so your sensibilities won't be shaken anymore.

Well OP, you know that's probably the least radical thing on The Stranger. That paper is so far left that this is basically a Tea Party Article.

In terms of the article itself... Not horribly surprising. I imagine that the students were a part of the rallies downtown the other week and decided to bring it home to the university. Fighting against the prevalence of white and European authors at a Jesuit university seems pretty silly, especially when the Dean already agreed to amend the curriculum over summer. It isn't as if Seattle doesn't have plenty of other options for liberal schools I went to UW for English a year ago and our program had an extremely extensive foreign language portion of the major. One of the freshmen courses required was focused entirely on female/minority writing. Options for this were constantly available, and my capstone project(undergrad thesis) was also taught in a similar vein.

Do you attend OP?

Ok fine, they can protest on campus, I give in, but they have to obey the law. They have no legal right to trespass in the Dean's office.

You know as well as I do what these protestor's really think of free speech. Everything that doesn't fit with their ideology is "hate speech" that must be suppressed at all cost. Some group of conservative students invite a speaker, and then the sjws picket the venue, harass the attendees, and try to shut down the whole affair as "hate speech." This happens all the time, and it works. If these nutcases don't respect our right to free speech, why should we respect theirs?

The wage gap is a myth. When you control for job position, experience, and qualification there is no wage gap.

Wage gap might be a myth, but real inequality and oppression do in fact exist. Those who feel it necessary to do something about it should do so.

They should not protest the "tyranny of the canon"

inequality is good and inevitable and oppression is a spook

Good to know high school debaters use the forum. But when you grow up you'll see that you're an idiot.

so lets impede other's work day as well as classes? fuck off.

redpill me on literature /pol/

>change wifi password
>turn off ac
>fail every single student for missing classes

protest is over

China, Japan
Middle eastern poetry is good
Latin american literature is awesome as well

Beyoncé should be required subject for all humanities students. From this thread I can tell lessons in Women Empowerment, Feminism, Race, 'making paper' and Jay-Z are much needed

>China
>Japan
*unsheathes katana*

You tell them to leave and you call the police if they don't.

You don't argue with them because they've designed their framework to be unassailable by their own rules. The SJW thing (the actual SJW thing, not the please don't be a dick to people thing) is entirely made up of motte-and-baileys and freely equivocable terms so whenever you attack them they just rearrange their own framework to rule your argument out.

This is the 1984 Memory Hole.

We don't refute perspectives. We delete them.

I don't think this sort of student protestors care much for Borges, de Assis or the Persian poetic tradition. What they mean by 'diverse literature' is mostly limited to contemporary lit unsubtly dealing with 'relevant social issues' in an American cultural context.

>>>/Reddit/

You really telling me that reading non-european lit or philosophy is now considered fedora? The fuck?
Yeah i know. I dont agree with these idiots. I was just playing devil's advocate and pointing out that there is more than just euorpean lit in this world.

What are you even trying to say? Is it some kind of compulsive reaction?

Wew lad, you sure did show him

nye's dubs

Why can't I hold all these gets?

I hate that Veeky Forums has been infested by /pol/ morons

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I think he was referring to the babby-tier literary reference and overall sheer edginess of that post.

it's not a Veeky Forums phenomenon

"Sheer edginess"? It's what the protesters are attempting to do.

It's an apt reference regardless of your opinion of the - difficulty? obscurity? 'worthiness'? - of the material. If you have a reference from a rarer novel I would appreciate the help - although I "probably haven't heard of it."

It seems that you don't have anything to say. Your posts amount to an interjection about how cool you are. It's wasted effort as you are anonymous. I can't connect the blindingly radiant 'coolness' with a name or a face.

>you seem to be totally butthurt about this belief and the very idea of protesting seems to hurt your feeling so very badly that you want to call up the police and get the bad guys taken away, so your sensibilities won't be shaken anymore.
Not him but I'm pretty deeply disturbed by this too. I'm not American so I'm not used to this particular brand of protest but this seems awful. They're demanding to have control over the faculty and the curriculum in order to push their political agenda. They haven't even named why they think the Dean should go, beyond her not agreeing with "critical race theory". The reason I'm appalled is because they might actually get their way. They haven't stated what's wrong with the curriculum other than it being written by "old racist sexist white men". If they think the course is too eurocentric they haven't offered any worthy alternatives, and I think the fact that they are complaining about a western humanities department being centred around Europe and North America shows a startling disrespect towards the subject.

I mean, imagine if this was a bunch of alt-right tards protesting to teach racialism or traditionalism or whatever, refusing to leave and eating doritos and blaring screwdriver until some right-wing shill is installed as director of the entire humanities department.

The framework wasn't made up by tumblr overnight. In fact it's the result of decades of work by activists, academics and social scientists. At its core, social justice discourse merely reflects a growing concern and empathy for all folks regardless of their identity. Unfortunately, some people (white dudes, mostly) feel threatened because their lived experiences are no longer being placed on a pedestal. I think That's really sad.

Infested is the wrong word. It's one or two embarrassing /pol/ idiots, and a bunch of people with legitimate conservative values. Your way of seeing other people has been polarized.

Also, take my words about the quality of this board with caution because I'm a novice in all of those areas I described as my "interests"- I'm not an English or Philosophy major, so I'm not someone who comes here for discussion at a post-graduate level.

there are plenty of right wing non/pol/ Veeky Forums posters but I doubt many of them would call themselves conservatives

What are you talking about? Did you reply to the wrong comment?

How do you guys think SJW's deal with Things Fall Apart by Achebe? It showcases some of the deeply rooted elements of this particular african culture, such as polygamy and beating women.

>the wage gap
Why are progressives STILL talking about this?

anyone that brings it up is racist
if it's the browns themselves that bring it up they are uncle toms or they can just be noplatformed

Id's a spoog :-DDD