When will butthurt Angelenos admit that NYC has superior Mexican food?

When will butthurt Angelenos admit that NYC has superior Mexican food?

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'ork 'cos are far superior to greasy, Cal-Mex tacos that are made for fat stoners

Fuck you, go back to the rock on Eternia that you crawled out from.

When will New Yorkers finally admit that Oklahoma has the best italian food?

It has happened. I've ived in NYC and LA over the last 15 years. It used to be you hung your head in shame when your Angeleno friends visited you in NYC. Six years ago you had to be in the know to show them a place as good or better than their LA neighborhood go to. Today you're explaining why the fish/steak/chicken tacos and burritos are bad ideas compared to cabeza/tripa/al pastor tacos and fucking tortas/cemitas. Because they aren't as familiar with Puebla/DF style Mexican. They really don't know thier way around the antojitos so well, either. Times have changed.

but fish and steak tacos are pretty big in mexico depending on where you go

there are a lot of people from Mexico City and Puebla in LA, but they don't form 75%+ of the Mexican population like in New York

>mfw they realize they don't know everything about mexican food but instead just accuse me of stealing their culture.

This has happened to me a few times when taking people to the nicer places in NYC.

stealing LA culture?

It's usually from someone who is "1/fuckteenth hispanic" and therefore thinks they have the final say on what is real mexican food. They do not like the idea that someone else could know more about it.

do they not realize there are 500k Mexicans in NYC?

No idea, I just know that no matter what I show them, it's not the "real shit".

Is al pastor actually uncommon in LA?

Not at all. The guy you quoted is just a jabroni.

they sound closed minded

This. The good Mexican here is dominated by one style. Learn it, know it, love it and you can eat like a king for pocket change. Expect it to conform to the expectations of LA, SF or anywhere in Texas and you'll be let down.

It's pretty simple, but New Yorkers are easily won over by simple if it's good. Some of the oldest restaurants in the country are NYC steakhouses. Hot dogs with sauerkraut and mustard still hold sway here. A pastrami on rye with mustard and pickles on the side is an absolute classic here. Pizza with too many toppings is seen as gilding the lily, unless you know you're getting it from a shitty place, then go hog wild. If it's a good place one or two is really enough (maybe more than enough). Complicated orders take time, and wasting someone's time here is a bigger sin than being rude. Being able to get your order out in four words or less and getting delicious is a priority here.

I just had a west coast friend visiting me. She'd traveled through the Yucatan and Oaxaca, and was familiar with Texas, LA and SF style Mexican. I took her to one of the places near me and she started looking at the menu, suggesting things she might want to order. I said go for whatever you like, but the order here really is three tacos, definitely an al Pastor, and probably a tripa, cabeza or chorizo. She was scared of the tripa, so she ordered my other suggestions, after staring lovingly at the moles and the fish tacos. After the meal she said they were the best tacos she'd ever had and fought me over picking up the bill.

That's how it is now.

is al pastor in NY generally cooked on a spit or do they do it the fake way?

No, because I am the white one, so I am the one stealing/appropriating/whatevering mexican food. Even though I am just taking them to a restaurant and talking about the food.

they must be retarded not to notice all the Mexican looking people walking around and operating those restaurants

I think there is a decent amount of people from Oaxaca and Guerrero as well, but distinct cuisine from those regions doesn't seem to be represented very much in the Mexican restaurants around here.

And LA might have a greater variety of Mexican cuisines and more Mexican restaurants and general, but what we have here can be very good. What a great change over the last 10 years or so.

Oh and don't forget the bacon egg and cheese as a New York Classic

I once pointed out that the staff was mostly mexican and they said I shouldn't assume what country they are from. I then told them that there is a fairly large mexican population here and they just handwaved it off.

Always on a gyros machine, just like the Lebanese immigrants who brought the concept that eventually became al Pastor to Mexico City did. Lots of gyros machines in NYC,
It's not uncommon, it's just rarely a good choice, because it's not done as well as the other options. Like good pizza in LA, you have to go out of your way to find it.

hmm I don't know if that's true, the two mexican places I ordered al pastor from, I did not see a spit

I'm not surprised because there's probably not enough demand for it, the average non-Mexican customer around here probably doesn't even know what al pastor is.

How dare you assume people working in a Mexican restaurant are Mexican

>Oh and don't forget the bacon egg and cheese
Damned right, though I'm more of an SEC man. And the truth is I would never run down LA. It's like NYC: glorious if you have a good reason to be there, and awful if you're stuck there wanting out.

Hmm, well, okay. I live in NY and have never visited LA so I know nothing about LA Mexican. And then the only place I've been to in Mexico is DF, pretty much. I have the weird problem of thinking that DF/Puebla style is the full extent of Mexican cooking because I've never had the opportunity to try anything else.

From what I've seen, most places don't use a spit. Possibly for good reasons. The average NY place offers so many meat options that turnover is slower than at an average cart or shop in Mexico.

I think I'm way too public transit reliant to see myself living in LA long term

Also it's interesting how different the Mexican culture is in LA versus NYC

when will butthurt new yorkers admit that la has better hot dogs?

There is at least one Oaxacan restaurant in NYC, although it might be pan-Southern Mexican

I don't even care about hot dogs. I don't even care about pizza that much! I only get it as drunk food usually

yeah I was thinking the same thing about the turnover. I can't picture my local taco truck being able to sell a whole spit worth of al pastor even in a day. And there are a lot of Mexicans here. I'm guessing they order mostly lengua and carne asada.

Who the hell even wants to live in LA except aspiring actresses who end up starring in FTV porn to make ends meet followed later by EvilAngel porn followed later by Facial Abuse porn followed finally by getting strangled by a john who was acquitted due to lack of evidence (i.e. he was rich)

Literally their only product is OJ simpson car chase videos, porno, and smog. Ok that's three products, sue me

Where's it at?
I live in Bushwick and just assume that everything around here is chilango/poblano. Even the place with Guadalajara in its name serves the same stuff as the other restaurants ffs.

he's probably talking about the one in south bronx aka "totally the next williamsburg this time I'm sewious"

La Morada in Mott Haven, a Oaxacan family runs the restaurant

But yeah most places are either Chilango or Poblano, or both (i.e., owner from DF with cooks from Puebla)

I don't want it to turn into Williamsburg, that would be super lame

But I wouldn't mind living anywhere in The Bronx as long as it's not too far from work.

Don't be so dismissive though, I can picture you talking shit about Bushwick in 2005

what's crazy is that they're building super expensive apartments in either Port Morris or Mott Haven, as much as I actually like that area I would never pay 3000 dollars for a 1 bedroom there

Bushwick is next to Williamsburg and has about a gorillion subway lines within easy reach

The only thing Mott Haven has is the Lexington Avenue line which is pure dogshit

no, it has the 2 train and D train as well

plus the 2nd ave subway will be built eventually, relieving a lot of stress off the Lexington Avenue line

>I have the weird problem of thinking that DF/Puebla style is the full extent of Mexican cooking because I've never had the opportunity to try anything else.
It isn't the full extent. You can still find Tex Mex margarita mills and second rate SF style burrito places. Hell, there's even the Chinese owned Tex Mex style fast food joints still around, which made my friends from Austin cringe a decade ago. But most of the good cheap food known as Mexican in NYC right now is the Puebla/DF style. And much of it is very good.
>I think I'm way too public transit reliant to see myself living in LA long term
For me it was on and off for work, and I loved Los Feliz because it was a walkable neighborhood, unlike so much of that city.
>Who the hell even wants to live in LA
Anyone who works in the entertainment industry has to spend at least a little time there, or have someone else do it for them. I had to go myself. First time wasn't all that pleasant. The other times were wonderful.

It doesn't have the D train, what are you talking about? That's all the way up by yankee stadium

Guys I'm totally going to travel to New York City to eat Mexican food.

>It isn't the full extent.
Oh, I know, I would just classify that stuff as Mexican-American rather than Mexican proper. It's basically the only "Mexican" food I ate before I lived in NY. I'm just curious to try other regional styles of Mexican -- I'm especially curious about food from the Yucatan, so if anyone knows a good place in NY please tell me about it.

>that Tex-Mexican food tho

I'm pretty sure Mott Haven includes the Grand Concourse south of 149th st

There's a bomb ass place called Oaxaca on the UWS

Damn nigga first post in a long time I've seen hit the nail on the head ESPECIALLY on Veeky Forums

Isn't that a chain? There's one of the UES as well

The real Mexican food in NYC.

>The good Mexican here is dominated by one style.

And this is why NYC mexican food isn't as good as it is other places. Doing just one thing well when there's a whole world of amazing foods in that cuisine isn't "simplicity", it's "simpleton".

>NYC is inhabited by rich snobs, blacks and hobos

If I were rich I would rather live pretty much anywhere else on the planet.

Because it doesn't, only someone who's never been to New Mexico, Nevada, Oklahoma, Texas or Commifornia would even mention NYC and Mexican food in the same sentence.

Can Confirm. The best taco bowls are at the Trump Grille.

>food from the Yucatan
There are a few. Tacombi may not be the best, but it's the easiest one to find. Some are upscale. Google is your friend.
tks
You missed my point. There are people from all over the world here, and a hell of a lot of wealth. You can find almost any (not all) kind of cuisine and a huge concentration of sophisticated restaurants. But things get hectic here during the day on weekdays. Any place that offers quick, simple and delicious lunch options is likely to do well. Also plenty of New Yorkers are not rich, so they're looking for a deal. There's fierce competition in the $3-$6 lunch/snack area, especially for things that are portable for the pedestrian/delivery crowd. Tacos have become big there as well.

native nyc oldfag here. it doesn't. taqueria tlaxcalli is awesome, le atoradero is great, el presidente is nice, if overpriced and there are certainly some others, but it's not at the same level of both quality and quantity that other places in the southwest and southern cali have.

But you're completely wrong.

We have delicious high end Mexican, but for a quality and quantity experience it might require some legwork, and maybe a trip to a less fashionable neighborhood.
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>less fashionable neighborhood

You east coast faggots talk like complete pussies.

It really is a shame that we have so many citizens in prison that the subculture that developed there is taking root on the outside. Look at this guy. I bet big words scare you too lol

When did NYIDF take over this board?

Just we have a little of everything doesn't mean we're good at it

NY will never be a world leader in Viet or Mex food, sorry
t.NYC resident of 20 years

You're using lol and criticizing his vocabulary? So you're retarded on top of talking like a bitch.

lol tough guy what are you going to do about it? Cry more faggot bitch nigger.

butthurt flyover

oh god i went here once when I was in my Bourdain phase and holy shit what a let down. Steak Frites (what they're known for) was dry and flavorless. Holy shit was I disappointed.

Uncle Tom

No, "less fashionable" isn't even condescending, he just means that you might have to leave rich people neighborhoods

I'm not american.

That was my intended usage. You can find great tacos in the East Village, the Lower East Side and Williamsburg, Brooklyn. But these are places where people commonly pay $3k-$5k a month in rent without batting an eye. Good tacos exist in these neighborhoods, because Mexican food is fashionable at the moment. But part of the price you pay for them is the very high commercial rent that taco place is paying for their store. If you want good tacos at reasonable prices you generally find them in neighborhoods where the rent is lower. These neighborhoods are not the desirable or fashionable ones. These are going to be the places where the Mexican immigrants who make the tacos actually live. By New York City standards these places are off the beaten track, though they may only be a mile or two from the high rent areas.

There's (un)surprisingly good mexican in washington heights as well.

Euro flyover

Are you quite sure you know what that means?

I'm Mexican and one of my brothers worked illlegally at a Mexican restaurant in New York, for what it's worth he told me that the menu is pretty authenticbut they also add tex-mex shit to make the custormers happy..

Also his coworkers spoke zapoteco among themselves and fucked trannies.

>see someone talking about how great NYC is at x
>Close tab

>a lot of wealth
>no time to eat decent meals
>people from all over the world

This is everything that is wrong with the world. Congrats. You're the city version of the Mall of America.

>This is everything that is wrong with the world. Congrats. You're the city version of the Mall of America.
Well, but in Mexico...you can't actually safely eat salad or you get sick...if you could, they'd probably have tex mex too. It'd have evolved to be a bigger thing. It's like improved when you get to the US and your tap water can be used to clean your produce.

>but in Mexico...you can't actually safely eat salad or you get sick
This is what whitebread flyovers actually believe

>it's a New Yorker thinks he's the center of the universe thread

That's pretty interesting, are you from Puebla by any chance?

And yeah, the Mexican places here do that but so do most other otherwise authentic Mexican places in the US. Even the critically acclaimed Oaxacan place here sells burritos.

95% of the things people say about New York are memes, both from jealous flyovers and arrogant New Yorkers

pic related looks like a total shit hole.

not that bad honestly. my best friend used to live by there it's in the bronx and if you look at the left edge of the picture you can totally see a little blue from the ihop just out of frame. go a few more stops down on the one line and you'll get to vancortlandt park which is fucking huge and pretty nice. it's where the city ends and Yonkers begins.

FUCK, I miss the city.
take me back please.

it's true tho

>It's pretty simple, but New Yorkers are easily won over by simple if it's good. Some of the oldest restaurants in the country are NYC steakhouses. Hot dogs with sauerkraut and mustard still hold sway here. A pastrami on rye with mustard and pickles on the side is an absolute classic here. Pizza with too many toppings is seen as gilding the lily, unless you know you're getting it from a shitty place, then go hog wild. If it's a good place one or two is really enough (maybe more than enough). Complicated orders take time, and wasting someone's time here is a bigger sin than being rude. Being able to get your order out in four words or less and getting delicious is a priority here.

It's True, all of it.

It's really not, and it's a lot more expensive than you'd think

Bump

where do you live now?

can't wait to try some 'ork 'cos

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