/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

Laquisha, Laq as her nickname

Memes aside, this should probably be a cultural thing. Thing about who named and what their culture is like and what their language sounds like. Names can be very descriptive of one's heritage.

Raptor Red by Robert T. Bakker.

I've been reading The Flock by James Robert Smith and have been enjoying it so far.

I just borrowed this, what in I in for?

Veeky Forums, I come to you with a humble request. Can you recommend some fantasy novels with depth and meaning, like BotNS? That series really resonated with me, I read it during a rough time in my life and it means a lot to me still. Is there any other fantasy out there that doesn't get bogged down with explaining fucking magic systems/the author's leftover teen angst/trying to be a shocking or "edgy" answer to Tolkien's work? Any genre fiction that's trying to SAY something and not trying to get an HBO series made for it?

Apologies for my English, it's my first language.

Used to be good, but now that the author turned out to be a raging homophobe, it is now shit.

homophobia

No not yet, so far it's just been racism

Ursula Leguin's The Dispossessed
Ann Raynd Atlas Shruggered
Terry Pratchett's Hogfather
Gorodischer Kalpa Imperial

After that, read ONLY "The shadow of Ender" and move on to other book.
I don't care what he said later; Ender's Game is one of the best tales I've ever read (it's not a novel, it has a tale's structure).
If you like him, you may read Wyrms, Master Singer, Alvin Maker, Hart's Hope or the Worthing Saga. As long as you stay away from the Returning saga, it'll be OK. Mostly.

>racism
This meme needs to die.

Why, what's the Returning saga?

you didn't like speaker for the dead? I thought it was quite good but the books after that were all pretty poor

Is this any good? I'm stuck between reading this or the once and future king next. Never read either of them.

>implying "Dinosaur" is a bad thing

>Any genre fiction that's trying to SAY something and not trying to get an HBO series made for it?
What do you want it to say? There's been plenty of works that have done so, pretty much all of them are pre-Tolkien though.

How do you pronounce "Yves"?

A Voyage to Arcturus

Thanks for the pre-Tolkien tip. And i don't really mind what it says as long as the author seemed to really believe it. Tolkien's a good example because (and i know he denied it often, but it's hard not to see it despite that) so many aspects of his work seem to spring from the hardships and significant world events he experienced in his life. His stuff is more sort of "wise" than something that came from some dude's favorite d&d sesh.

Ee-vez

Let your people go!

>A sudden thought came to Jamie. "Aren't you folks Christians?" "We always thought we were," said the white guy ... It was almost a relief to have the white guy talk. It was weird to have a black man do most of the talking when a white man was in the group. Not that Jamie thought it ought to be the other way. He'd just never seen a group of both colors where a black man was the spokesman."

But also in addition to the homophobia there will be detailed descriptions of naked boys/men.

Well Mormons thought black people didn't have souls until like the 70s or 80s so that sounds about right.

speaking about racism, i have another idea for the name of the black magician for miracle!

or is it a name for a dodgy assassin?~

>Uncle Tom's Cabin has cute grills

Holy shit, why hasn't anyone told me this? Off to read it right now.

Niggers clearly don't have souls.

A person whose taste I value rates it excellent, but I found it "just" pretty good. It's quite short, so I suggest reading it first.

Anyone know any good time traveling books, specifically about traveling to the past or some other primitive setting and using knowledge from modern earth to advance in some way, for some reason I'm really into these sort of settings. So far I've read Conrad Stargard, and another book, whose title I can't even remember. Conrad Stargard seemed a little too wish-fulfillment-y. The other one seemed too focused on American civil war styled battles, which I care little for.

>Conrad Stargard seemed a little too wish-fulfillment-y.

All the guy wrote about is Handsome Polish Engineers getting the girl and being powerful, as he was a engineer of Polish descent who was born in Detroit (though in The Fata Morgana there's a shocking inversion where the main character is a engineer from Detroit, but his best friend is a handsome Polish engineer from Hamtramck).

IIRC the author ended up going to Russia to live in a castle as sort of a reverse mail-order-bride thing after Baen dropped him. (according to the author this was due to a conspiracy of gays and feminists, which seems quite unlikely since Baen still publishes Tom Kratman)

The other series you read was likely 1632 by Eric Flint, which is about a coal mining town from West Virginia that gets sent back to the Holy Roman Empire.

I'd suggest A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark Twain.

Alright, thanks, I'll check it out, and no it wasn't the 1632 series, that actually sounds more interesting than the one I read, that one was about this vet traveling to a different dimension midwest U.S. where only this religious organization knows the recipe for black gunpowder.

that whole setting is wish-fulfillment-y by design

>Fire and Ice
Get that GRRM shit out of here. TRUE and HONEST dinosaurs only.

Gormenghast

>massive breakdown of society
>ethnic groups distrust and fight each other
>this is acknowledged
OSC's a normal ol' Cruzcuck, boys, nothing to see here. In the first story they talk about how the Baptists that Beslan'd the Mormon group didn't want to mess with the blacks.

Lest Darkness Fall. There was another one where this woman from the late Roman Empire gets transported to the Republic and uses her advanced scientific knowledge on them but I can't remember it.

I read Stravaganza when I was about 10.

Only read Ender's game. Thought it was very well done, I did some time in the military so it fitted very well with my expectations.

I remember reading in the foreword, about how it was recommended militiary leadership reading. I think that's an excellent assessment. The book only used sci-fi as a setting, while telling an immensely more interesting story about young, inexperienced people in high authority, faced with a calculating logic (Ender himself).

The stuff about his brother and sister however seemed a bit shoehorned and unneeded. As well as the supposed happy ending they bought.

Personally I think Ender and his siblings could be a modern metaphor for AI.

Funny you should call them a metaphor, actually.
In the sequels... well, some things happen and Ender goes briefly to a sort of concept space outside of the universe, and immediately, unconsciously, builds copies of Peter and Valentine, except they're not copies of the people as much as they are extrapolations of his own inner Peter and Valentine.

Hmm see this is why I didn't read the sequels. Sometimes I just like things to end without a relapse.

It made sense in context, and a lot of the foundation for it is in the dream sequences and Giant's Drink game in Ender's Game. I thought it all tied together pretty well. None of the sequels were Ender's Game at all, which is always a ballsy move to make, but this time it worked.

Can we start one of these? Post/make one about your favourite SFF. Here's a template.

Here's one I found, don't know if it's accurate.

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Just finished first book not long ago. Fucking loved it. the movie was an unrelenting orgasm of green fecal matter. Would like to read the rest

There was one about some chick smokes a joint at Stonehenge and foes back to medieval times. Forget what it's called you can probably find out just from that

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Fresh OC

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>She's black
Laquesha.

really bringing my /v/ shitness to this thread

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The "What I got" pretty much applies to the entire series

>Pacific Rim

I'm sold, I'll begin reading SA immediately.

So it was that good? May have to read it now.

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It was more aimed at the fact that about half the book takes place in a casino, but I now realize that I chose a less than ideal picture

Book 4 this September hype

Fucking finally

You should, it was pretty good.

There's these suits of armor, 'Shardplates' they call it that are basically person-sized Jaegers plus giant swords that can cut through anything. The battles are 10/10

The books are a bit hard to get into though. The first book starts with a prologue for the 10-book series, then a prologue for the first book and there's a ton new stuff introduced to the readers throughout the whole book. It is worth it though

Picked this up at the library, is it any good?

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Not him but it reminds me more of Aldnoah.zero (but luckily the plot isn't shit) than PR since it's full of Brightlords fighting pettily with their super powered armour whose abilities a normal human can't match, duels in which the winner gets the armour/machine of the loser, looking down on their fellow humans and trying to get them to co-operate in a fight in a somewhat autocratic/backward society crammed full of superficial Veeky Forumsshions.

Also two people are close to the king and one ends up betraying the other, leaving them for dead to further their political influence.

I feel like PR really toned down the typical /m/echa politics but that's probably because it was more of an Evangelion clone than a gundam clone.

I'm pretty new to the genre, so I just bought some sci-fi books I saw in the charts.

Pic related. Will I regret it?

>I just bought

Did you mean to say borrow?

Isn't that an YA author?

Either you already know what to expect or you should read the main series first.
Not even close.
His books have amounts of violence that go beyond most other fantasy books.

Nah, they were only a couple euros each, so it seemed like a good deal. I sort of have a thing for old paperbacks.

body snarchers is really good.
I thought the Sirens of Titan was shit, but everyone likes it so you'll have to see.
Solaris is dope, try to read it in as few a sittings as possible.

Went all out on this one because I really liked it. Might do one for Guards! when I finish it.

Actually following on from this, did anyone else think that Siren's of Titan was really, really shit?

The entire book was arse for me. The only cool thing was the Dr. Manhetten-esc main superhero guy. The rest was stupid.

The martians were stupid.
The mind control ships, conveniently allowing the control of other men was less stupid but still.
The Martian invasion of Earth was stupid.
The entire section of the book on Venus, with the manta ray creatures was stupid.
The final chapter which suddenly introduces aliens was stupid as well.
Oh my god, the bit where Dr Manhatten is having a conversation with Tony Stark and Tony tells him he fucked his wife, and the reason he got angry despite his deal being he knows the entire future, was that he was putting it off for later.
And the supposed twist at the end, about how the landmarks of Earth like the Great Wall of China were an alien language was some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.

The themes of free will weren't even that prolific. I hardly found myself questioning anything the entire book.
actually don't read it because fuck me it's shit.

Am I missing something? I went into this book ready to enjoy myself and just got angry.

Violence is a very young adult thing, but instead of emotionally stunned vapid females, the target audience are the nerds.

All true, but I didn't think it was worth getting angry about. Vonnegut is such an easy read I didn't feel like too invested reading it.
I don't think Vonnegut should be considered sci-fi

Agreed, easily one of the worse Vonnegut books, it's got all the Golden Age SF tropes with less fun.

The difference is why violence is used.
If you had read Malazan you would see that the violence is not there for its own sake.
It is always reflected upon and used as something the characters have to engage with and never there for the enjoyment of the reader (quite the opposite).

Many "YA" books have violence for its own sake. A trend probably influenced by the success of GoT.
Because as it turns out alot of people want to see violence and it is an easy way to create tension.

Yup, utter shit.

I wasn't a fan of how most of the plot is laid out at the very start and the rest of the book just follows it with no deeper meaning or satisfying elaboration.

I would describe Cat's cradle, the only Vonnegut I've read, as Pynchon or Dick for people of lesser intelligence.

Yet we breed your delicious white meat sister and she gets preggers. We both know that you need 2 souls to make a kid.

Enjoy your silverfish infestation

All these dinosaurs conveniently contained in one thread. I can drop a comet sized nuke on all your asses and get fossil fuel for decades.

All this pic really says is that there are some super-plebs lurking these threads to actually try and diss Gormenghast and Canticle for Leibowitz

NayNay

Hey retard, when are you done with Iron Daughter?

Niggers also don't read books so I see right through your attempt at a ruse, Louis.

>a "cuck" on Veeky Forums is someone that gets his wife/gf stolen by a black man
>Louie CK fucked a black woman and the kids still came out white
>still considered a cuck somehow

If anything he should be considered the alpha of alphas, his DNA is so stronk he nullified the blackness.

So we're only allowed to read new SJW approved books huh?

I want to read this so badly, but so far I haven't been able to find a single hard copy of the book.

Not him but there is such a thing as good new SFF, see Three Body Problem.

I still like the classics ofc, but it doesn't hurt to branch out from time to time. Avoid stagnation, you know.

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