Has anyone been able to rebut Bertrand Russell's famous argument In Marriage and Morals? Einstein even gave great praise to the work
>Love as a relation between men and women was ruined by the desire to make sure of the legitimacy of children.
>The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot coexist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue.
>Even in civilised mankind faint traces of a monogamic instinct can sometimes be perceived.
>I should not hold it desirable that either a man or a woman should enter upon the serious business of a marriage intended to lead to children without having had previous sexual experience.
>Science enables us to realise our purposes, and if our purposes are evil, the result is disaster.
>Joy of life... depends upon a certain spontaneity in regard to sex. Where sex is repressed, only work remains, and a gospel of work for work's sake never produced any work worth doing.
>Gluttony is regarded by the Catholic Church as one of the seven deadly sins, and those who practise it are placed by Dante in one of the deeper circles of hell; but it is a somewhat vague sin, since it is hard to say where a legitimate interest in food ceases and guilt begins to be incurred. Is it wicked to eat anything that is not nourishing? If so, with every salted almond we risk damnation.
Russell's father allowed Russell's mother to sleep with Russell's tutor, and Bertrand Russell grew up to be a genius and win the Nobel Peace Prize.
>Russell's father allowed Russell's mother to sleep with Russell's tutor
This is what a lot of his trash reads like. A justification of his pathetic cuck father to hide his own humiliation and embarrassment being the spawn of that.
Joseph Young
Well was his father also sleeping around? Either way he's right, regardless of whether his pops was a cuck.
Isaac Jenkins
It seems fairly selfish and short-sighted to deny children the benefit of a loving father and the advantages he may bestow upon them because you personally don't care about legitimacy.
Russell can do what he wants, but nothing he says makes me want a monogamous family any less.
Samuel Myers
You can't be a good parent if you aren't in a monogamous relationship?
Christian Martin
Why would I bother if I don't know if it's my kid?
Landon Thompson
Um, shitlord? Parenthood is decided by society not genetics. That's why they banned DNA testing in France.
Isaac Bell
Thought they banned it cause everyone is so promiscuous there and it caused too many problems.
Luke Smith
>I don't care about human beings unless they come from my penis This attitude, everyone, is the problem with society
Anthony Howard
I don't go around abusing other peoples' kids, but I'm not going to just randomly pick a few to spend my life paying for and mentoring with all my effort when I have the option to have some that share my genes.
Daniel Taylor
If your wife has a child, the child is objectively part of your family, and it is wrong of you to not support the child. Even Earl from My Name is Earl knew this much when he was bad person
Ethan Allen
If things are that way then I just don't marry.
Oliver Evans
Would you really take care of your wife's kid if you knew 100% it wasn't yours? Assuming you're white, if she popped out some nigglet, would you pretend its your kid and take care of it?
When the day of the rope comes, people like you will be the first against the wall, degenerate.
Owen Turner
>If your wife has a child, the child is objectively part of your family, and it is wrong of you to not support the child. because contemporary marital law is fucked sideways
If I marry; my wife will be faithful or she will not be my wife.
i feel no obligation towards betrayers, be they female or male.
Asher Gomez
Uh, and how the fuck did the child betray you?
Grayson Powell
irrelevant.
Henry Ward
No it's not, you're throwing away your responsibility because of something petty that ultimately makes zero difference
Camden Davis
>your responsibility Except I didn't conceive the child and women are now free to work and earn a living for themselves. If she values me little enough to cheat on me and keep the product, then she certainly can't lay claim to my affection and support.
Logan Edwards
And this is why we can't have nice things. Cultural marxists and feminists should be beaten in the streets.
Carson Morgan
>Where sex is repressed Does not happen and never has in the western world.
Parker Sanders
Seriously, niggas need to read the Canterbury Tales. All this sexual repression stuff is just middle class weirdness.
Parker Hill
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Dylan Turner
cuck
Joshua Cruz
No the bio father and mother (your "wife") are the ones who betrayed you, your marriage and the baby. You are an innocent 3rd party
Jonathan Jenkins
>shitlord Oh boy, here we go
Isaac Morgan
Don't speak to me or my son ever again
Elijah Martinez
Don't speak to me or my wife's son ever again.
Leo Lopez
The issue is not the kid but the wife; the social contract of a relationship is based on mutual respect and affection, if you create a kid outside of these agreed upon conditions then you have no basis to bitch and moan about the father not giving a fuck.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Isaac Nelson
yeah right like you people so adamant about passing on your genes will ever even fuck anyone
Grayson Kelly
Yeah, these guys are so gross. I would never let them use my holes, and I'm sure all the other ladies in this thread agree, right sister? We sure showed those virgins who've never used a woman hole before.
Liam White
why so mad, roasty? worried you won't be able to raise your bastard on hubby's dime?
scum
Wyatt Perry
cuck
Aiden Bailey
no, that's your spouse
Asher Roberts
cuck
Sebastian Gonzalez
the woman has become hysterical, somebody get the vibrator
seriously lady, toss yourself off. You'll feel miles better after, trust me
Caleb Baker
cuck
Charles Cook
I haven't laughed this much in years
it's rare nowadays to troll someone to the point where they just lose control like this
the butthurt is palpable and delicious
Samuel White
cuck
Jason Fisher
Sounds like typical anglo philosophy
William Moore
>The love and care I give to my own kids and family is the same as I should give to the rest of the world.
I can tell you don't have kids or if you do you don't really love them, or you are just creepily too friendly and overstep your bounds with everyone you meet.
Ian Reed
cuck
Nathaniel Price
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Brandon White
too much ambien, box wine and anonymous dick probably
Cooper Parker
is /int/ always this cucked? holy shit you guys are fucking pathetic
LeL The only ever acceptable circumstance in modern society that you're raising a child not of your own is either you are incurable of having your own, or your raising a decided family members child. Anything out that and you are just a cuck who is contributing to the downfall of society, seriously I laugh and cringe at the same time reading the shit you cucks come out with.
Ryder Morales
Maybe she's finally starting to realise to live for yourself and not be cucked by society's expectations. cucks
Kevin Kelly
Jessica valenti is a nutjobthough, she should of never had a child. she feels no love for any child ever because of her indoctrination in to feminism.
Parker Young
>valenti taking on her husband's name doesn't seem to stop her from being an anglo-lizard thing
Julian Torres
>I generation meme laddy you make enjoy a website called reddit
Parker Watson
>I generation Wrong >meme Post discarded
Owen Phillips
>you're meant to feel remorse for strangling humans to death, but even here sitting on hundreds of dead corpses i feel nothing give her a raise
Joshua Gutierrez
>CHESTERTON: The person who is paid to look after the child does not have any feeling. That is a good point; and, there- fore, in any kind of quarrel or trouble or danger he will betray. "The hireling fleeth because he is an hireling." >RUSSELL: It is much less likely that a hospital nurse will flee from a patient than that anybody else would. >CHESTERTON: Than the mother? >RUSSELL: Yes, much less likely.
Rusell: anglo-lizard psycho being a fan of russell is a good filter for people with no hope
Dominic Clark
That's pretty fucked. I feel like Russell said just about everything he did out of spite for "normies" rather than because he thought it was a good idea.
Eli Wilson
Absolute drop kick of a human, why he is repeatedly brought up on this board is a fucking (analytic) wonder
>Russell had proposed that we “abolish the universal, fundamental institution of mankind” while claiming there is nothing fitted by nature to replace it. Russell’s “solution” was to have nursery schools pay officials to do something which nature leads parents to do already. Chesteron continued: “You are exactly like a lunatic who should walk in the garden in the pouring rain and hold up an umbrella while he watered a plant.”
>Russell uses rational argument >Chesterton uses le witty quips RUSSELL BTFO!
Lucas Edwards
"Our purposes are evil"
Berty just blew it. By constantly trying to overthrow the concept of an ultimate good "God" you cannot then use some abstract concept of evil to critique people's behavior and remain logically consistent.
Badiou was right. Not even a theist btw.
Zachary Reed
This guys is a fucking scumbag 0640547021
Justin Nguyen
This, Veeky Forums is retarded and only hates analytic philosophy because it would require them to actually use their brains and read real philosophy instead of obscurist bullshit.
Bentley Ramirez
I take it back. Russell was a daring thinker even if he was an asshole, but Chesterton is a lapdog of the people with a silver tongue and nothing more.
Alexander Howard
What a pathetic straw man
Asher Lee
There is a point in that quip though
James Brown
I'm a male animal. I desire to raise offspring genetically descended from myself. Monogamy helps to ensure that that occurs. >Joy of life... depends upon a certain spontaneity in regard to sex That's just like your opinion man. > Everybody knows that this is untrue. Sick appeal to the majority.
Justin Martin
Seems like a good place to ask.
What's a good place to start reading philosophy from a modern perspective?
