Why does Veeky Forums hate Ayn Rand/Atlas Shrugged?

Why does Veeky Forums hate Ayn Rand/Atlas Shrugged?


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Near as I can tell, she has multiple things for people to hate, so it's like a paella of hatred. There's something in there for everybody. I hate her because I'm a Christian and her way of thinking is basically Satanic, but I know there are lots of atheists that hate her too.

No one hates the literature.

They hate the pseudo intellectual fedora tipping Bioshock upper middle class teens that worship it without even reading it.

Wasn't bioshock making fun of her stupid ideology?

Hey, I actually read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged back when I was a fedora tipping Bioshock upper middle class teen who worshiped Rand.

Because she writes bad books that spend thousands of pages spouting bad philosophy
Yes. Rapture is supposed to be what happens when objectivism is applied to a large population of people.

because pic related

It's nonsense. Nobles literally have no transferable skills.

This, but unironically.

She mistakes integrity for a capitalistic trait when it is clearly apolitical. She conflates hundreds of ideas and concepts in the infamous speech sections of her books none of which are particularly thought out.

She basically also assumes that the rich people in her stories are the only competent people at their companies and thus 100% responsible for their operation. Absolute garbage.

Yup. Lots of people fell for it briefly when they were young and feel great shame.

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Speak for yourself, I hate the literature. I powered through most of AS during a road trip and just had to put it down, it was relentless and numbing. Dany's thoughts were inane and her moments of success or triumph felt like reading about a lizard person. Reardon was autistic as well and I'm stunned at the lack of subtlety with the message. I'm cool with whatever message but there are multiple lines in the book that are unironic straight up "the boring and poor are holding back the intelligent people with the fire to create new things and make a better world".

>implying poor people don't ruin everything

She's right wing.

Veeky Forums is a left wing/progressive board.

Have you ever noticed there's hardly any right wing writers/intellectuals? Exactly.

Yet we're inundated with Christfags.

Atlas Shrugged is several political screeds, including a 70 page (3 hour verbal) speech, strung together by a vague semblance of plot, all to promote a political ideology that is essentially "Somalia in the 90s."

I mean at least in Starship Troopers, the political stuff got broken up with some actual debate and some battles, and was promoting fascism, a actual real political system.

>Have you ever noticed there's hardly any right wing writers/intellectuals? Exactly.

And why would there be when the right wing openly vilifies buk learnin (for fags) and intelectualiums (athiest lies about the baby jesus)?

Plus it's not like they say anything other than "being a bootlicker is good and cool because reason."

I've read Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal and The Virtue of Selfishness.

He philosophy is that of a narcissistic sociopath. It basically boils down to "Gilded Age was best age and we should all continue on down that path! Robber barons good, poor people shit!" We tried this crap in the 19th century. It sucked. It sucked hard.

>sociopath

No shit. She's right wing, she's gonna be evil.

Stop it, you're not good at this.

Lmao. Go suck off Drumpf on /pol/ faggot.

Dumb american, I bet you think you're smart but you only confuse yourself.

Lit is either Alt-Right or marxists/cucks.

One thing they can both agree on is that liberatianism is retarded.

This. The philosophy is utter bunk. Capitalism is inherently a death march towards accumulation of ever greater market and political power to subvert competition and free markets, and proposing property as the most fundamental human right is inherently violent and coercive.

where do political opportunists fall into this?

>marxists/cucks
But those are two entirely disjoint sets m8
You should understand by now intersectionality and critical theory descend from marx in only the same sense as neoconservatism descends from trotsky, and that they like the rest of postmodernism represent a solid break from materialist dialectics. Unless you're some kind of newfag.

Socialism is also inherent violent. Because you are forcing people to give some of their wealth for the benefit of others, or face the threat of jailtime/violence.

Not if you dont have property

I define groups by the tactics they use and nothing else. Their stated goals are literally meaningless since they cannot be arrived at anyways.
Anyone who behaves like a Marxist is a Marxist, their (explicit) dedication to dialectic materialism notwithstanding

We don't. Hating on Rand is a hot new /r/srs meme.

Indeed, the end goal of socialism is to have all property in the hands of the state. How noble.

Because the literary/art community is full of a bunch of leftist, marxist faggots who will do anything in their power to dismantle solid arguments for capitalism.

I honestly hope they get what they want one day, just so that they fucking starve to death.

There are no "solid arguments for capitalism" - you stupid fucking retard.

Other than the fact that you are alive and nourished and using a computer right now, of course.

Go move to Venezuela you insufferable fucking teen

leftist isnt a real world and calling someone a 'marxist' means basically nothing

The message doesn't bother me, but it beats you over the head with it, real John Green level stuff.

Marxist diversion tactics, everyone.

I hate it because I hate philosophies and worldviews that insert and argue for large amounts of human suffering on the behalf of something 'greater than' to be 'striven' 4

Jesus, cancer

Cringe

Go move to Somalia, you egregious cockrider.

Congratulations - that might be the most retarded comment ever posted on Veeky Forums.

Not the correct use of the term "inherent."
Top-down redistribution of wealth is indeed violent in execution as a tactic or policy, as well as often ill-fated as the redistributing authority is a class unto itself administering its own rule. I'm right there with you on that one.
But consider the nature of property for a moment. How does something become property, and what does this entail?

I've just started playing the game btw, is it Veeky Forums approved or is it pleb?

>Veeky Forums is a left wing/progressive board.
Not me. Anyone else

>le alt-right

(im actually a conservative libertarian irl but being /pol/ online is too fun)

without m'lady Ayn Rand the world would not be blessed with such beautiful, enlightening works of writing like this one:

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Deep down, you're a sick piece of shit.

>be me, in 1640
The literary/art community is full of a bunch of leftist, republican faggots who will do anything in their power to dismantle solid arguments for feudal monarchy.
I honestly hope they get what they want one day, just so that they fucking starve to death.

>if i make anti-/pol/ posts with tumblr gifs of trannies, Veeky Forums will associate anyone who's not a /pol/ invader with tumblr faggotry

I've seen you doing this in so many threads. It's time to stop.

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Elaborate please.

Not that man but you gays do the same disingenuous shit.

Personally I wish all political discourse was banned from this board, I just enjoy calling out obvious false flags. /pol/ and anti-/pol/ can both fuck right off, I don't mind shitposting but I would at least like it to be about books.

Nice trips though.

>wish all political discourse was banned from this board
You can't discuss a philosophy in any meaningful sense without addressing its implications for individuals and societies.
In turn, you can't discuss a piece of literature in any meaningful sense without addressing the philosophical themes underlying it

Go back to your fucking Magic Treehouse books senpai

Wow, so this whole time when I've been enjoying and discussing books without any interest in their political implications, I've been defying the laws of physics? I'll alert the media posthaste!

>my oblivious ignorance is a standard everyone else should strive to meet

People can exercise their interest in politics on the politics board, but I come here instead of there because I couldn't give a shit about politics. I don't want anyone to be ignorant, I want them to do this shit in a place where it doesn't kill threads that are actually about literature.

>People can exercise their interest in politics on the politics board

So by that logic, if I think Veeky Forums sucks, I should go start posting DFW threads on Veeky Forums?

>he doesn't already do that

>by that logic
/pol/ is an echo chamber packed with the uninformed, simplistic opinions of those who feel no obligation towards intellectual and philosophical breadth/depth and who will shout you down for disagreement in a manner entirely similar to the SJWs, simply cloaked in the pretense of rationality born of unchallenged ideas and bias confirmation. You cannot have a decent leftist thread on /pol/.
You can post DFW all you like here and have the support of the dominant board culture. It's silly to kick out social and political theory though, as this is one of the only places it can find purchase through these internalized obligations to intellectual responsibility.