Any transgender-friendly books, Veeky Forums

How to serve trannies

can someone tl;dr this book for me? which is the best way to kill myself? just curious

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orlando
same as every time you start this thread

This is my first time ever making this thread.
There are lots of transgendered people in the world, ya know

no, it's just one guy. he's been going since elizabeth i

DSM-IV-TR

Middlesex.

>get told to go to /pol/
>go to /pol/
>get told to go back to /reddit/

it's an endless cycle

that's not what a cycle is.
just stay in /plebbit/

you forgot
>go to /reddit/
>Get told to go to /4kidz/

>Going to reddit

Justice for Omar Mateen!

Friendly in what sense? Because every trans person I talk to says it's a miserable experience.

OP here, Please be more respectful

Myron/Myra Breckenridge by Gore Vidal

This is such a lazy bait thread. On the off chance you're serious
If you want a hugbox go there
Or stay there

>your argument makes me uncomfortable but I have no rebuttal so please leave

>get told to go somewhere
>obey

wrong

here's how you do it:

you: [indefensible opinion]
user: gb2/pol/ retard, spew your "redpilled" opinions on your containment board and stop shitting up our threads
you: lick my nuts newfag

statements are not arguments, don't flatter yourself.

shotgun blast to the head is 99% effective or so I've heard.

whatever you do don't take pills or slash your wrists, that's only 6% effective. Sauce: lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods

Maybe it depends on the pills though. I used to have a prescription for zopiclone sleeping pills. Years ago I told my therapist I was contemplating suicide and he asked he how I was planning on doing it and I said "Well I'd swallow sixty tablets of zopiclone" and he said, "Yeah, that would probably do it."

Fuck I miss those sweet blue gems.

Being trans is okay, being an oversensitive frogposter isn't.

> /pol/ is the only place where people think that being a transexual might be a symptom of a mental disorder
Sure bro

I won't let you belittle me, you ignorant monster

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As far as I know you people are miserable and unfulfilled all through your teens up until the point in which you either kill yourselves, get murdered by someone else, get AIDS or inevitably regret all the decisions you've made and want to become a man again.

Don't see how books will help, sounds like you need some kind of anti-psychotic.

youre an idiot
99% of all respected hospitals, doctors, professors, and universities will disagree with you

gender dysphoria is a disorder, and transitioning to a new gender is the cure. being transgendered literally means curing mental disorders

>victims of unjust discrimination live harder lives

up next, user learns that water is wet, and proceeds to blame the jews

Well, it's not really us normal people's fault you all inevitably choose prostitution, drug addiction and unstable lifestyles, you know I kind of think that might stem from being severely mentally ill and not being given the help you need but getting coddled instead.

What is a gender? How do you "become a girl?" Through hormones? By wearing dresses? You may as well claim you have "race dysphoria" and start wearing blackface.

You can add elements of your idealized "femininity" without fully buying an outdated societal view of what being a woman is.

>normal people
Do you have any idea how offensive you sound right now?

> This person believed that his body was inhabited by two seperate people. His mind was disfuctional caused him to believe things about his body that were biologically false. So we fucking cut him in half to make his body correspond to his mental disorder. He is now cured

>This person believed that his body was inhabited by two seperate people
>misunderstanding gender dysphoria this badly

> being offended by the term "normal" despite it being an accurate term that describes how common something is

Do you have any idea how sensitive you sound right now?

>I told my therapist I was contemplating suicide
how did they not institutionalize you? every therapist i've ever been to has told me that if i told them i'm suicidal and have a plan, they'd have to report it.

it sucks cause i'd really like to talk to someone about this. i've tried hinting at it with one therapist but she got spooked and almost reported it. i had to spend my next couple sessions just pretending that i suddenly got better and wasn't depressed anymore so she would stop. then i got the fuck away from her.

I was using an example that wasn't gender dysphoria. Making domeone's body correspond with their delusions is not a cure.

I'm honestly interested because I'm actually writing a novel with several trans characters (based on real people).

>implying people don't have agendas

OP, the novel "Kitchen" by Banana Yoshimoto has a transgender character.

It's possible this is just a bait thread, (especially because you frogposted) but if it's not I hope that recommendation helps.

There was a time a few years ago when /pol/fags had not yet infiltrated civilized, blue normie boards like Veeky Forums and /trv/, but it's the reality now. I blame the the PC/SJW vs. "Alt Right" cancerous culture war that has really sprung up and flared in the last year or so. (I have no love for either side).

Immature, insecure, virginal, basement dwelling troglodytes have always been a reality of Veeky Forums though. In a sense you have to take it with everything else if you decide to come here.

and your agenda is to be an idiot :^)

>and flared in the last year or so. (I have no love for either side).

nah, it's been going since '12/'13 at least. it's just the /pol/tards were more contrarian-for-the-sake-of-being-contrarian rather than children regurgitating memes.

Herculine Barbin? Depends on what you mean by friendly, I guess.

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All orthodox Christian literature is friendly to transgender people—as people.

If you are a man by birth, and you claim you are a woman, that is surely an abomination; but you are a man and you have an immortal soul of immeasurable worth. God loves you, and we do, or we ought to.

I know you don't want Christian literature; or any literature that tells you you're behaving wrongly. You don't want literature that will love you like a friend, because a friend will tell you what you need to hear. You want literature that will be agreeable. Books that are transgender-flattering; or transgender-neutral; books that treat you like a paying customer. All of us have sought literature that did that for us at one point or another; nobody likes to be told they're wrong, and especially to be told that they're behaving badly. But that's what good literature does.

Perversion feels impossible to escape from when you're deep in it; and struggling against bad impulses is difficult. But that's life. You either let weakness and vice bind you in chains, or you fight, and fight, and fight. The Christian's life is a warfare upon earth. It sounds gloomy, but it isn't.

I know you must feel like a square peg forced into a round hole; and you think you were born in the wrong body. There is truth to it: for we were all born into a world of sin and and death for which we are not intended. These are not our proper bodies; this is not how we were meant to live. But seek and you shall not find a remedy in this world; seek it instead in Christ.

>citation needed

i'm sorry that i don't accept this idea that a woman or man can be born in the body of the opposite sex. i'm sorry that i don't accept that a person's sex chromosomes are entirely irrelevant. i'm sorry that i think people need to accept the hand they were dealt even if it's not what they want. i know those are unpopular opinions and you disagree with them, but that doesn't make me an idiot.

you'll rot in the dirt with the rest of us, meatbag

It's the reality of our culture now. Our culture has been hijacked for utilitarian purposes. It keeps the idiot plebs at each other's throats rather than meddling in affairs of state.

I comfort myself in the knowledge that American hegemony will lead to global unity and the next stage in human social development. Also the fact that we live in a free country and can still say and do whatever the hell we want. I'm interested in starting a movement of people who fly above all that bullshit and focus on living in a state of grace during these times of comfort. Nothing's more tragic than being born into a comfortable life and not enjoying it.

gender =/= sex friend :^)

what does it mean to feel like a woman?

you want to wear women's clothes, makeup etc, and conduct yourself in a feminine way.

>muh gender essentialism

>muh meaninglessness

...what?

well okay i wouldn't use the phrase "feel like a woman" in the first place, those were user's words not mine

but there's nothing mentally ill about being born a man and not wanting to do the things society expects men to do, and potentially even wanting to do the things that women are expected to do, or to rest somewhere in between those two ways, or to do something else entirely.

vocativ.com/culture/lgbt/transgender-suicide/

not that dude but i've had similar experiences

you've gotta play it off as a passing thought you've been having more than usual and convey that you have a vague idea of how you'll do it, which should be >1 methods that end up with more attempts than deaths (like weak pills or slitting your wrists), so the therapist wants to nip that shit in the bud rather than possibly make it work by 5150ing you.

don't act like you have this shit figured out and that you're probably gonna make the attempt

Orlando (althought best time to start it was last week lol)
The Life Before Us by Romain Gary (was lucky enough to get

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see, i'm not saying that all men should adhere to strict ideas of male and female gender stereotypes. if a man wants to wear makeup and dresses and stuff, that's fine. i don't have a problem with that. but i refuse to pretend that they are actually women.

also, isn't it in some way sexist to say that if one is attracted to things associated with femininity that one must be a woman? are tomboys then not really women? are they less womanly than hyperfeminine women?

>children that can barely be differentiated by gender are allowed to get a sex change, but I'm not allowed to be with a 13-year-old girl

>transitioning to a new gender is the cure

Highly debatable. Many have regretted their transition and observed suicide rates both before and after transition aren't noticeably different.

Trannies suffer from compound mental ilness so this os not surprising.

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This is what nu-males actually believe.

>you want to wear women's clothes, makeup etc, and conduct yourself in a feminine way.

but that's not what it's like to be a woman

people behave according as they ought, but not because they enjoy the things for themselves. this is the whole lie underneath the transgender idea: that men and women are deeply enthusiastic for the superficial aspects of acting their gender. they aren't.

I get a lot of excitement from imagining what it would be like to dress up in women's clothing, and have a woman's body, and behave as a woman. But it's of an entirely different kind from the less exciting sort of joy that I get from being a man. This is why there is—anybody who has been to /d/ knows this—a large amount of gender transformation porn on the internet, and a large audience of transgender-identifying men and women who enjoy it. The excitement is sexual. I agree with Blanchard on this: autogynephilia is certainly connected to transsexualism.

Some of us think that building a life around a fetish is wrong. For the psychologists, there is only a question of whether the fetishist is more comfortable living his fetish; Blanchard himself supports publicly-funded SRS because the research suggests it helps transsexuals to live more happily. I don't call that a cure, but some people do.

What is a nu-male? All men have been born in sin since Adam fell. The men of today are no new species; they are men, and they are sinners. Same as they were a hundred years ago; same as they were two thousand years ago. I too dislike many fashions and vices of our own day; but there is no nu-male.

There's very few people who don't comprehend the reality of gender dysphoria.
Let's skip this part of the debate for posterity and go to source of the issue:
1. Is transitioning a viable treatment?
2. Should a more inclusive society change and acquiesce to the needs of this new minority?
3. What degree is gender grounded in sex (psychological evolution vs behavioral ecology) ?
4. And if gender leans behavioral (nurture), to what degree can society be changed (i.e., transgender bathrooms, sports, sexual preference, developmental psychology and childcare ethics, etc.)?

nu-male are low test beta orbiters who identify as radfems and constantly feel the need to apologize for white straight cishet behavior and microaggressions

I hate this fucking world, too many god damn fuckers in it.
Too many thoughts and different societies all wrapped up together in this fucking place called AMERICA.
Everyone has their own god damn opinion on every god damn thing,
and you may be saying 'Well what makes you so different?'.
Because I have something only me and V have; SELF AWARENESS.
Call it exortenstiolism or whatever the fuck you want.
We know what we are to this world, and what everyone else is.
We learn more than what caused the civil war and how to simplify quadratics in school.
We've been watching you people and we know what you think and how you act.
All talk and no action.
People who are said to be brave or courageous are usually just STUPID,
then they say later that they did it on purpose cause they're brave,
when they did it on fucking accident.
God everything is so corrupt and so filled with opinions and points of view,
and peoples own little agendas and schedules.
This isn't a world any more.
It's H.O.E and no one knows it.
Self awareness is a wonderful thing.

All that text. No substance.

>Transsexualism is a mental disorder.
so treat it with the the widely accepted treatment HRT. thats like saying schizophrenia is a mental disorder... ok... so treat it. simple

Nevada, A Safe Girl to Love
Nightwood

trans people have higher rates of suicide because of people like you

so if a person says their arm doesn't belong to them, should you just cut it off?

WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME I CANT CUT MY ARM OFD IF I DAMN WELL CHOOSE TO???!?!?!?

the person who doesn't want to cut off their arm

>trans
>"""people"""

Transtrending is no more biologically/psychologically significant than any other sub-culture/trend and has very little to do with gender.
The only reason those people get any attention is because of their gross body modification, highly peculiar values and constant demand for recognition.
The whole thing people under thirty pretend the economy doesn't exist and the term 'politics' refers to whether you're being mean or nice to minorities is absolute bullshit.
Go learn something of value because you're arguments are stupid and childish on both sides.

The left hand of darkness

/pol/ is reddit silly

souls have no gender

Thats not treatment that enableing someones delusion.

No its plenty of other shit. They tend to have more than one mental problem.

No one else has to play along with their delusion

Souls dont exist.

But they have sex, or rather souls aren't human, because a human is both body and soul, one without the other does not constitute you.
t.Aquinas

So is posting seriously on Veeky Forums.

If there's one thing that's certain of the alt-right, it's they're lost, confused, angry, and most of all, they don't know what they want.

nice post, very orthodox