What are Veeky Forums's predictions for the future, preferable with an estimated year

>curing HIV
>useless shit
I think some may disagree senpai

>~2050, drones are employed by all courier services
34 years seems a bit long for this,
www.bbc.com/news/technology-36478614

There's still a lot legal considerations, plus the fact there is no infrastructure for it. Also the technology isn't fool proof. What prediction do you give?

what did he mean by this?

its hard to say
but once something is shown to be effective, econimical and safe, customers and companies will adopt it widespread.

i'm not sure if your prediction involves a 100% drone workforce, or if your drones are autonomous or human controled, but id think some courier service would acheive cost savings over human drivers in certain cases within 5 years.

id guess within 10-15 years from now we would see drone delivery it at its peak.

im not if sure the technology would ever fully replace human services, but i was responding to your scenario where for all couriers, drones are employed

legal issues are solved with disclaimers and new laws, no technology is perfect but its getting better then humans all the time.

Full autonomous drone force in my prediction

2055 -the sun will still be shining

>~2055, manual driving on motorways becomes illegal
But how will the cops catch you if they're not driving on them either :^)

Curing Cancer is literally our only boundary towards achieving immortality, or at the very least massively extended lifetimes (several hundred or thousand years). It's also a project that would require several trillion dollars of funding to isolate all known forms of cancer and find a cure specific to each one.

Expect this by the 2080s, hopefully i'll still be alive.

>Expect this by the 2080s, hopefully i'll still be alive.
chuckled hard

How do cops catch criminals, if driving over a red light is illegal?

We really really really need the politic and laws to transition to a post scarcity economy and civilization.

It's only at the very best 15 years out, that corporations become extremely powerful because they more or less just use robots and ai's. I can almost guarantee that deepmind will be producing the first human level agi by 2028.
At that moment in time the whole government will loose power because it is in a position where it is threatened by not enough funding.

Laws need to be passed before google, facebook, microsoft produces such an agi.
Robots have to pay taxes. Human level agi even more.

Corporations have to fund the government in full.
They have to fund society.

Everything else will be a dystopian world like we never could have dreamed of. With trillionairse more powerful than states and corporations the new superpowers with buying power like the US in 2016.

I don't want to life in a world, where corporations are magnitudes more powerful than the current superpower. CEOs aren't put to power through democratic processes.

That world would be shittier than the shittiest Aristocracy

>Laws need to be passed before google, facebook, microsoft produces such an agi

On the bright side, Larry Page mentioned recently in an interview that he thinks that we should consider moving to a 4 day work week, which is a step towards preparing for post-scarcity (and he knows this).

So at least the leaders of google are aware that we must make the transition.

not enough funding? i'm taxed at 30% with everything but sales tax included. Include the sales tax which is 9.75% and that hits nearly 40% of my wealth is taken from me. How much more does the government need from me? And if taxation isn't theft, then at what point does it become theft? 50%? 60%? Government has a monopoly of force, corporations can't force you to do anything. The markets can only work by peaceful cooperation

How much in taxes are you going to be paying when your job can be done by a robot?

the same because the market will shift and my labor will be used for something else. i'll instead be maintaining or improving the robots in some capacity

>Cyberpunk is becoming more and more of a reality by the day

The only hope for AGI is that we stupidly underestimated how hard it is to emulate a human brain, and in reality only an international open co-operation could make 1 AGI run in the whole world.

Think like a CERN but 100 times more expensive and difficult. That's the only thing that's stopping us from a dystopia where people beg to get minimum wage jobs, since t he untouchable business royalty has enough robots and AI servants to live good forever.

everyone is getting richer with time. poverty now means something different than even 20 years ago. the cyberpunk vision is coming but it'll be a power struggle between the people and government with corporations acting as wildcards either operating with the help of the state (cronycapitalism) or against the state with adoration from the public

or we can just work on brain cancer and brain related diseases and then work on cloning and being able to transfer a brain to another body.

2333

half-life 3 is finally released

I wonder if the Soviet Union would have been better equipped for automation than the west if it had continued along the path it was moving instead of imploding.

You mean 3333

2030
>USA
>all residential rooves must have at least one photovoltaic panel of some substantial percentage of the roof.

>human level AI

What does this mean? I keep seeing that phrase and dont understand if its just an uncontrollable learning AI or if its some sort of scifi channel nonsense where computers become aware and personally motivated.

but HIV is a cure

An AI that can perform all (or nearly all) general human-capable tasks at the performance level of the average human. An AI with human level neural plasticity.

This wont be anytime soon. Our brains are very slow computers and whatever algorithm is needed to accomplish this is extremely complex. It would probably be 2030 that we could create learning AIs just to aid us in solving that algorithm.

It would have been, China is an example of a country can implement automation far more smoother than any Western country, since they can control all aspects of that automation process.
30% tax, Jesus Christ where do you live?
this

Hopefully you die soon, preferably by your own razor sharp edge there kiddo.

>2020, India becomes superpower

baiting this hard

Take your pedophile cartoons to .

Lab grown clone organs and body parts will be available and supported wholeheartedly by insurance companies dedicated and funding the whole thing by 2030

The sheer amount of money they will hedge on, from people who will literally see it as life extension and a free pass to finally party like it's 1999 with consequences that can just be replaced with new body parts 20 years later that have already been grown and ready to be used, is going to be massive and very lucrative

I imagine steep down payments though, and the option to make it cheaper by allowing your cloned organs be available for emergencies for someone compatible

It's gonna save a lot of lives and improve our longevity

>big(ger) wars by 2030, largely caused by water/food shortages
>billions of people dead by 2050 due to war and environmental catastrophes

No lab organs. No self-driving bullshit. No HIV cure. No cancer cure. No virtual reality. No immortality. No singularity.

The only real question is when/how many nukes will go off.

>everyone is getting richer with time
That's highly subjective. Most monkeys live in abject poverty, misery and ignorance. Talking out my ass but I am thinking for every first worlder created with spare time for shitposting on a Mongolian image board there are 3 poverty ridden souls created on the dark side.

>photo volatic
>not a meme

Superconductors and better grids will probably come first, and Japan will probably go is their space solar farm experiment by then

There are no water and food shortages on that scale

You underestimate just how fucking horrible things were before the Industrial Revolution for most of humanity. I would say that the poorest people today are just about the same as the majority of humanity was 500 years ago. Conditions are improving slowly but surely everywhere.

That's because we're talking about the future.

>2028
New phone "technology"

You guys have a pretty weird sense of where the world is going.

There won't be water and food shortages of that scale

We made carbs too cheap and desalination is improving

lmfao @ your negativity, get rekt dweeb

>transfer a brain to another body

literally pointless unless we can make the brain regenerate damage, which would mean the body would also be able to regenerate, which would make brain transfers pointless

>2093: First (actual) moon landing: (C'mon guys we have to feed Africa first).
>2104: Islam celebrates its cultural achievements, such as penicillin, the combustion engine, Beethoven, European architecture and ice cream.

>2132: New obedience chip technology is implanted in all people, as the governing AI system requires.

>2148: T-Rex is cloned by Jewish pornographers, is used exclusively for sex shows on blue ray technology.

>2217: The Saharan desert is formed into a fucking huge water park.

>2385: We all agree that humanity is about halfway over.

>8814: Abrahamic religions destroyed, eternal 4th Reich controls all space travel. Life is strangely pretty chill. All non-space travel computers are illegal and we have sex for fun.

9001: Technology scare, as humans start to evolve into strange e-wok looking creatures. Smart phone companies manufacture smaller digital keypads to combat the change. Major geneticists determine that this is a result of furries not being purged from our bloodlines.

1004: The new Tool album comes out. Solid early reviews.

>2104: Islam celebrates its cultural achievements, such as penicillin, the combustion engine, Beethoven, European architecture and ice cream.
I thought this was the future senpai

wtf are you talking about?

desu i just hope we get anime sex robots before i die

Its not a perfect post user, and you have to understand the future of Eurabia and how Islam (refugees welcome) is culturally enriching the west. You need to get on the right side of history, basically, rly, srs.

If you were a childlike innovator, if you looked at the date, you would see this stuff coming. These are my predictions and I'm sticking to them.

Ha, here's another:

2028: Cis white sexuality declared rape. Doctors form new sex robots from recycled better sex robots from Japan to combat mass loneliness and depression among cis whites while keeping it green.

And another.

2038: Recycled sex robots hacked, declare allegiance to the caliphate of Germany. Acquire all non-automated diesel engine trucks and mow down large crowds of pedestrians for Allah. Queen mother empress Clinton declares event unrelated to Islam.

He's saying... Why do I even bother

Remember this, screenshot this post, so you can reap the smug rewards and say you heard about it before it happened.

Within 3 years everyone will be confused as hell because everything will have gotten sane all of a sudden. Conflicts will be resolved to the benefit of all parties, people will cooperate, crime will plummet by orders of magnitude.

It will be so sudden and powerful that many people will think it is the hand of God. The actual reason will be a sort of "cultural singularity," accelerated cultural change facilitated by the internet that allows for the solving of fundamental human problems on a massive scale.

Laugh and say this is bullshit, take a screenshot anyways for lols. Three years, by Summer 2019 at the latest, this will occur, most likely much sooner.

>2021 - Global arms race in drone fighters, bombers, submarines
>2022 - Widespread adoption and boom in Augmented Reality, similar to the introduction of the iPhone in 2007
>2023 - Parkinson's Disease pronounced "cured"
>2025 - Boom in cryogenic preservation of the deceased
>2025~2030 - Widespread usage of automated vehicles; cabs replace vehicle ownership for most
>2025~2030 - Massive global upheaval as mankind adjusts to automation, localized product fabrication and job elimination on all fronts; GMI adopted in most First World nations
>2027 - Wealthier couples routinely "tailor" their children's genes to eliminate defects and enhance their physical attributes
>2028 - VR indistinguishable from reality on an A/V level
>2028 - Islamic extremists release tailored virus; global outbreak kills tens of millions, but is neutralized with a collaborative G20 effort
>2029 - First AI passes Turing Test
>2030~2035 - Most forms of cancer cured. Diabetes cured. Widespread usage of cloned organ replacements.
>2035~2040 - Most forms of congenital diseases reversible. Life expectancy reaches "terminal velocity": any First World citizen alive in this period can expect to live indefinitely, barring accident.
>2035~2040 - Advent of direct neural/AI interfacing
>2040~2050 - AI's surpass human intelligence; mind uploading becomes possible
>2050 - Singularity event
>2054 - Buffalo Bills win Super Bowl

to a certain extent this, I hope we get to fuck VR girls during my life time, I want to try my PUA shit on fake women that I can erase if things go wrong and then I can try again until I manage to get them to take off their clothes

>The actual reason will be a sort of "cultural singularity," accelerated cultural change facilitated by the internet that allows for the solving of fundamental human problems on a massive scale.

Thank you, Queen Hillary.

this post

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

92 percent of poor households have a microwave.

Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.

Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.

Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.

Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.

More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.

43 percent have Internet access.

One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.

One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo.

the market creates wealth, government intervention only slows or destroys wealth. the state can't produce wealth only the market can.

For decades, the living conditions of the poor have steadily improved. Consumer items that were luxuries or significant purchases for the middle class a few decades ago have become commonplace in poor households, partially because of the normal downward price trend that follows introduction of a new product.

Liberals use the declining relative prices of many amenities to argue that it is no big deal that poor households have air conditioning, computers, cable TV, and wide-screen TV. They contend, polemically, that even though most poor families may have a house full of modern conveniences, the average poor family still suffers from substantial deprivation in basic needs, such as food and housing. In reality, this is just not true.

It's hardly subjective that everyone's livelihoods are getting better as we progress technologically; mainly due to Moore's Law and mass production which this user has shown.

Government intervention aids in the redistribution of wealth, which is why capitalism is such a detrimental system of automation. We require a socialist government to redistribute the wealth to ensure we don't get a massive divide within the population.

>Government intervention aids in the redistribution of wealth

yes and as a result, the market is slowed to a relative crawl. just imagine if this didn't take place and that the market was free of government intervention. we'd live completely different lives today.

>capitalism is such a detrimental system of automation

Automation is a great thing, you'll learn this yourself with time. Human labor is more fluid than you must think. Instead of bagging groceries for example, i'm free to focus on customer service or maintain the automation machines or improve upon them in some way, or to easily supervise and diagnose issues. This is a wonderful thing and its sad that most believe as you do, you people with your overlords are holding humanity back. The market works and most people's unfounded ignorance is ruining progression.

>We require a socialist government to redistribute the wealth to ensure we don't get a massive divide within the population.

Socialism doesn't work because you can't possibly know prices. Prices are there to indicate where resources are best to be allocated. No group of people arbitrarily barking orders can know how to efficiently place resources. Only people cooperating freely between each other can do this, government intervention can only harm this process.

The typical poor American lives in an air-conditioned house or apartment that is in good repair and has cable TV, a car, multiple color TVs, a DVD player, a VCR, and many other appliances. Half of the poor have computers, and one-third have wide-screen plasma TVs.
Some 96 percent of poor parents report their children were never hungry at any time in the prior year.
A poor child is more likely to have cable TV, a computer, a wide-screen plasma TV, an Xbox, or a TiVo in the home than to be hungry.
Poor Americans have more living space in their homes than the average non-poor Swede, Frenchman, or German.

>Automation is a great thing, you'll learn this yourself with time. Human labor is more fluid than you must think
To be fair, I didn't claim that automation WASN'T a great thing. Automation will be great IF and WHEN it is implemented correctly. However, I do believe that it must be regulated appropriately by government policy, for fear that the gap between the poor and the rich increases to a unprecedented scale which would occur if we left it unchecked (in its current state now). Ultimately, we don't disagree on the technology, but we disagree on how it should be managed economically.

>This is a wonderful thing and its sad that most believe as you do, you people with your overlords are holding humanity back. The market works and most people's unfounded ignorance is ruining progression.
I think this is a bit unfair, human labour is fluid - I agree with that. However, there simply isn't enough jobs that could be created with the advent of full automation of the workforce. Sure, it'll create jobs - but there will be a vast amount of unemployment. This is where the problem of modern day capitalism comes into effect.

>Socialism doesn't work because you can't possibly know prices. Prices are there to indicate where resources are best to be allocated. No group of people arbitrarily barking orders can know how to efficiently place resources
Which is why it must be a technocratic socialism for it to be effective at the allocation of their respective resources, to be fair I see where you're coming from in regards to the capitalist viewpoint but I just don't see it working in practice as a corporation's profit margins always outweigh the social repercussions. For example, the introduction of private prisons into the United States justice system. They're practically sitting in on legal policy to ensure that their profit margins (which is increased with each prisoner) is high. So, they want strict laws in order to do this. Basically, the corporations have no social responsibility and they will exploit this fact. Which is why you need government intervention. If you could perhaps tell me how a capitalist government would ensure events like this did not occur with new technologies, I may consider my political alignments on the matter. However, currently, they remain resolutely socialist.

>modern day capitalism

this doesn't exist. people like to point to the markets today to point out flaws in capitalism but there are no forms of capitalism today. The market is completely deformed and twisted. Most industries are subsidised and those that are more untouched than others thrive.

It has nothing to do with politics whatsoever.

As I said, give as much skepticism as you want. Just screenshot the post and save it. You'll shit bricks when it happens.

Yeah, you're correct with that. However, I can't see it being feasible otherwise, please tell me how you'd prevent my private prison scenario from occurring in a "free-market." Essentially, if it were a completely free-market, slavery and all forms of malpractice would be open game for employers.

government intervention is exactly what gives you the prisons in the first place. you wouldn't need prisons in a free market in this scale because the vast majority of crimes are nonviolent. Corporations can't profit unless people voluntarily give money to support it. Governments can't profit unless they steal the wealth and end up sloshing it around very inefficiently

>cultural singularity
>nothing to do with politics
What you're basically stating is that globalism prevails and everyone loses national identity to form a global culture. How that isn't political is beyond me.

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>using a phrase like "cultural singularity" outside of tumblr
fuck off

When government fails they get more staff and a larger budget. When business fails they lose everything.

I was using it because the user I was responding to did.

You still have the issue of the immensely rich (manufacturers, who own the automation) and the relatively poor (consumers)

That isn't what you stated, that's what you assumed.

The cultural singularity will be a cultural explosion of innovation and efficacy, not a contraction. Trying to speculate on the specifics of it is impossible - they are inherently unpredictable.

Here, I took a screenshot myself for you to save.

I already saved it. I'll open it up in 2019 and have a mighty kek.

the market brings everyone up. for example today even people in poverty have a car, just because they don't have a bmw doesn't mean they are suffering to such a degree that you seem to put off. There is no problem with the rich having things that people in poverty can't have. The alternative that you suggest would be to put a gun to peaceful people to steal from them.

You have a fair point, and have truly made me reconsider my position. Although I do believe that there will be a considerable amount of unemployment with the implementation of automation, in which case the government would need to intervene. If automation led to no unemployment, your scenario would be ideal but I truly don't think mass automation will lead to no unemployment. Rather, the contrary.

i'm not an original enough thinker to come to these conclusions all by myself. Here is an example of some reading from my perspective:

mises.org/library/10-automation

mises.org/library/automation-retreating-catastrophe

Murray Rothbard changed the way i view how the world works and what exactly is wrong. This is an essay that had an impact on me:

mises.org/library/war-peace-and-state

Thanks, my views were just moulded from a preexisting socialist bias. I'll take a read of those essays.

You aren't really wrong, and in all honesty, when automation is in full force, that is the time where I start to take socialism seriously

Or at the very least, mandatory energy grid upgrades. With modular grid designs, at least then corporations can start to compete at a local level to reduce costs and increase distribution for everyone, taking the load off the government. But one or the other has to happen, or it will be ugly

Better if both happen, which isn't unlikely

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austrian propaganda on Veeky Forums?

Explain this meme.

Praxeology is science :^)

I do think that automation has the potential to get very "ugly" if it isn't done right, and it very likely won't be.

p-please go

My propaganda is freedom

Socialism doesn't work, period, in America, so I think that user is more talking about having some socialistic programs and subsidies put in place to help the public stay relevant in the market, as opposed to relying on the state or being left behind in the workforce

And I agree, automation really is the labor wet dream finally realized, with that drastic cut of labor force, there's a new paradigm that definitely needs attention and discourse.

Frankly, in a perfect world, it should be the start of having a technocratic society and having the population have a full focus on the sciences and yes, even the arts.

Consider that automation is going to be very energy hungry, and automation doesn't solve the issue of distribution, no, not even with the meme AI self driving vehicles

Both will require some infrastructure, and with infrastructure comes not only jobs, but entire communities. The roads and grid will be there, the pipes will be there. Only the grid is currently lacking, which is why I think that is a serious bottleneck for progress.

It can be done right, we'll just have to cross our fingers and see

I believe the the state should moderate the progress of technology, as it will begin progressing at a rate which will disallow the poor to maintain an appropriate standard of living, especially in the case there is mass unemployment.

you only slow progress and leave more people relatively poor if you do this. i say relatively poor because every few years poor means something different. today's poor are yesterday's kings so to speak.

Also consider Thomas Woods, on youtube you can find most of his speeches and work. Appealing to peace to convince people sadly doesn't work as you might think it would. Maybe i'll suggest this one:

youtube.com/watch?v=yBCiMxuX9_g&list=PLCONIwYSymGTT0Lz3gd4YfdlrftQ7UZwN

I'm always amused when people think air conditioning is a luxury. Come live in the southwest. They don't make sunken huts or basement houses to live in.
Also, since when don't you need a computer to apply for work? What backwoods hick territory even has businesses that allow paper applications anymore.
As for claiming people aren't poor because they have a luxury good or two (tv, Xbox), go fuck yourself. Electronics are way cheaper than food or rent. You're shitting on the least expensive forms of entertainment, which cost less than a trip a state over with a few nights in a hotel.