Elie Wiesel Dead at 87

who's wiesel died?

Elie's wiesel did :(

>Oprah's book club

ah shit dude that was one badass wiesel

JEWS btfo

In this thread: so much Veeky Forums

Hello, Reddit

good goy

What's your favorite Wiesel book?
I've read maybe half of all his books, and I'm not even a Jew.
Mine favorite is The Fifth Son and Time of the Uprooted.

I'd consign this thread to containment I think

he will be sucking Hitler's cock in hell tonight

Le evil kike meme.

We read Night for one of my high school English classes. My only memory of the experience is of my classmate comparing the train that transported Jews to the concentration camp to the bus that took us students to school.

My favorite part is where he become a nationalist before he died.

no great loss, 'night' sucked and he spent 50 years wandering around the world whining about how people are mean to jews

Reminder that both Kevin Bacon and Elie were fucked raw by Madoff, and that he has pennies left.

Kek!

>it was real in my mind

I love Jews who didn't give a shit about the the Holocaust

Do you also love white people who dont give a fuck about cultural Marxism?

I only read "Dawn".

Red pill me about this man

Cultural Marxism is relevant today. The Holocaust is not.

He was a huge fraud who made millions selling a fictional story

but he actually was in a concentration camp? are you a holocaust denier?

Mods please sticky and I'll give ur pp a licky

Holocaust industry shill.

Was probably real, but supports and props up frauds.

>Finkelstein describes two known frauds, that of The Painted Bird by Polish writer Jerzy Kosinski and Fragments by Binjamin Wilkomirski, and how they were defended by people even after they had been exposed. He identifies some of these people as members of the "Holocaust Industry", and notes that they also support each other. Elie Wiesel supported Kosinski; Israel Gutman and Daniel Goldhagen (see below) supported Wilkomirski; Wiesel and Gutman support Goldhagen.

>According to Finkelstein, Elie Wiesel characterizes any suggestion that he has profited from the "Holocaust Industry", or even any criticism at all, as Holocaust denial.[15]

"The first major Holocaust hoax was The Painted Bird, by Polish émigré Jerzy Kosinski. The book was "written in English," Kosinski explained, so that "I could write dispassionately, free from the emotional connotation one's native language always contains." In fact, whatever parts he actually wrote -- an unresolved question -- were written in Polish. The book was purported to be Kosinski's autobiographical account of his wanderings as a solitary child through rural Poland during World War II. In fact, Kosinski lived with his parents throughout the war. The book's motif is the sadistic sexual tortures perpetrated by the Polish peasantry. Pre-publication readers derided it as a "pornography of violence" and "the product of a mind obsessed with sadomasochistic violence." In fact, Kosinski conjured up almost all the pathological episodes he narrates. The book depicts the Polish peasants he lived with as virulently anti-Semitic. "Beat the Jews," they jeer. "Beat the bastards." In fact, Polish peasants harbored the Kosinski family even though they were fully aware of their Jewishness and the dire consequences they themselves faced if caught.

In the New York Times Book Review, Elie Wiesel acclaimed The Painted Bird as "one of the best" indictments of the Nazi era, "written with deep sincerity and sensitivity." Cynthia Ozick later gushed that she "immediately" recognized Kosinski's authenticity as "a Jewish survivor and witness to the Holocaust." Long after Kosinski was exposed as a consummate literary hoaxer, Wiesel continued to heap encomiums on his "remarkable body of work."

The Painted Bird became a basic Holocaust text. It was a best-seller and award-winner, translated into numerous languages, and required reading in high school and college classes. Doing the Holocaust circuit, Kosinski dubbed himself a "cut-rate Elie Wiesel." (Those unable to afford Wiesel's speaking fee -- "silence" doesn't come cheap -- turned to him.) Finally exposed by an investigative newsweekly, Kosinski was still stoutly defended by the New York Times, which alleged that he was the victim of a Communist plot."

"Fragments was widely hailed as a classic of Holocaust literature. It was translated into a dozen languages and won the Jewish National Book Award, the Jewish Quarterly Prize, and the Prix de Memoire de la Shoah. Star of documentaries, keynoter at Holocaust conferences and seminars, fund-raiser for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Wilkomirski quickly became a Holocaust poster boy. Acclaiming Fragments a "small masterpiece," Daniel Goldhagen was Wilkomirski's main academic champion. Knowledgeable historians like Raul Hilberg, however, early on pegged Fragments as a fraud. Hilberg also posed the right questions after the fraud's exposure: "How did this book pass as a memoir in several publishing houses? How could it have brought Mr. Wilkomirski invitations to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum as well as recognized universities? How come we have no decent quality control when it comes to evaluating Holocaust material for publication?"

Half-fruitcake, half-mountebank, Wilkomirski, it turns out, spent the entire war in Switzerland. He is not even Jewish. Listen, however, to the Holocaust industry postmortems:

Arthur Samuelson (publisher): Fragments "is a pretty cool book ... It's only a fraud if you call it non-fiction. I would then reissue it, in the fiction category. Maybe it's not true -- then he's a better writer!"
Carol Brown Janeway (editor and translator): "If the charges ... turn out to be correct, then what's at issue are not empirical facts that can be checked, but spiritual facts that must be pondered. What would be required is soul-checking, and that's an impossibility."

There's more. Israel Gutman is a director of Yad Vashem and a Holocaust lecturer at Hebrew University. He is also a former inmate of Auschwitz. According to Gutman, "it's not that important" whether Fragments is a fraud. "Wilkomirski has written a story which he has experienced deeply; that's for sure.... He is not a fake. He is someone who lives this story very deeply in his soul. The pain is authentic." So it doesn't matter whether he spent the war in a concentration camp or a Swiss chalet; Wilkomirski is not a fake if his "pain is authentic": thus speaks an Auschwitz survivor turned Holocaust expert. The others deserve contempt; Gutman, just pity."

This is the thread that Veeky Forums deserves

I read The Painted Bird, and all that it is about is the debauchery of the Polish peasantry. As far as Jews go, they don't exist in the book except for the main character, who pretends to be Polish

"The most recent Holocaust extravaganza is Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's Hitler's Willing Executioners. Every important journal of opinion printed one or more reviews within weeks of its release. The New York Times featured multiple notices, acclaiming Goldhagen's book as "one of those rare new works that merit the appellation landmark" (Richard Bernstein). With sales of half a million copies and translations slated for 13 languages, Hitler's Willing Executioners was hailed in Time magazine as the "most talked about" and second best nonfiction book of the year.
... The central thesis of Goldhagen's book is standard Holocaust dogma: driven by pathological hatred, the German people leapt at the opportunity Hitler availed them to murder the Jews.

...

Although bearing the apparatus of an academic study, Hitler's Willing Executioners amounts to little more than a compendium of sadistic violence. Small wonder that Goldhagen vigorously championed Wilkomirski: Hitler's Willing Executioners is Fragments plus footnotes. Replete with gross misrepresentations of source material and internal contradictions, Hitler's Willing Executioners is devoid of scholarly value. In A Nation on Trial, Ruth Bettina Birn and this writer documented the shoddiness of Goldhagen's enterprise. The ensuing controversy instructively illuminated the inner workings of the Holocaust industry.

Birn, the world's leading authority on the archives Goldhagen consulted, first published her critical findings in the Cambridge Historical Journal. Refusing the journal's invitation for a full rebuttal, Goldhagen instead enlisted a high-powered London law firm to sue Birn and Cambridge University Press for "many serious libels." Demanding an apology, a retraction, and a promise from Birn that she not repeat her criticisms, Goldhagen's lawyers then threatened that "the generation of any publicity on your part as a result of this letter would amount to a further aggravation of damages."

...

A Nation on Trial received endorsements from the leading historians on the Nazi holocaust, including Raul Hilberg, Christopher Browning and Ian Kershaw. These same scholars uniformly dismissed Goldhagen's book; Hilberg called it "worthless." Standards, indeed.

Consider, finally, the pattern: Wiesel and Gutman supported Goldhagen; Wiesel supported Kosinski; Gutman and Goldhagen supported Wilkomirski. Connect the players: this is Holocaust literature."

So, if cultural marxism ends up being a huge massacre of white people, you are going to stop talking about it after 30 or 40 years when it's over?

Are you sure it's not just you thinking uncountable lives being lost isn't as important as Black people calling everyone racist because you don't care about the Jews?

He sold a fictional account of his real experience. It's like me going to Disney world and then writing a story about how I met Pooh and went tripping through the hundred acre woods with Christopher Robin.

A lot of the stuff he wrote simply did not happen.

Shit like this makes me believe the Jews deserved the Holocaust

lol tl;dr

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_(book)

>Seidman argues that the Yiddish version was for Jewish readers, who wanted to hear about revenge, but the anger was removed for the largely Christian readership of the French translation. In the Yiddish edition, for example, when Buchenwald was liberated: "Early the next day Jewish boys ran off to Weimar to steal clothing and potatoes. And to rape German shiksas [un tsu fargvaldikn daytshe shikses]." In the 1958 French and 1960 English editions: "On the following morning, some of the young men went to Weimar to get some potatoes and clothes—and to sleep with girls [coucher avec des filles]. But of revenge, not a sign."

>Wiesel tells a story about a visit to a Rebbe, a Hasidic rabbi, he had not seen for 20 years. The Rebbe is upset to learn that Wiesel has become a writer, and wants to know what he writes. "Stories," Wiesel tells him, " … true stories":

>About people you knew? "Yes, about people I might have known." About things that happened? "Yes, about things that happened or could have happened." But they did not? "No, not all of them did. In fact, some were invented from almost the beginning to almost the end." The Rebbe leaned forward as if to measure me up and said with more sorrow than anger: That means you are writing lies! I did not answer immediately. The scolded child within me had nothing to say in his defense. Yet, I had to justify myself: "Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred."

Remember the seven septrillion bars of soap goyim

History is antisemetic

I fear that you will never change, Veeky Forums

Antisemitism is history

I read this in highschool. I then proceeded to write an essay that defended Hitler and got an F on it. Those were some fucking edgy days

>trying to defend Hitler in Ms. Goldman's class

you goofed user, never show your power level

I have a feeling he'll die this year.

Screencap just in case.

>mfw I still have the paper and get an acid fire blazing in my stomache and brain when I reread it
it's so fucking pretentious/incorrect to the point of being almost unintelligible

I wrote a paper about how the events in Night could not be true and got a B+ because my teacher wasn't a good goy

Book Oprah's club? What?

You shut your mouth user.

Don't fall for the /pol/ shit. It was a horrid event that no one deserves. Just because some slimy people want to profit off it doesn't make it any less potent.

literally who

Post it, bitch.

m8 if you know anything about the history of jews you'd agree they had it coming. badly

you're joking

lazy b5

his dad lived till he was lik 98 or some shit

>anything I disagree with must be b8

>Is there a more contemptible poseur and windbag than Elie Wiesel? I suppose there may be. But not, surely, a poseur and windbag who receives (and takes as his due) such grotesque deference on moral questions.

thenation.com/article/wiesel-words/

declining b3

hell be fine

Hitch Hitch Hooray!

No, we aren't. Post that shit

nigger what the fuck are you talking about

...

Cultural Marxism. Do you not know what it is?

painted bird was better

hey, fuck you, Kevin Bacon is a great man, my favorite movie with him is....uh, idk

I'm pretty sure that was replicated in every school ever because I've experienced it twice. I welcome the refugee crisis and the Third Negro Uppityness because its ending the trite exaggeration suburban and rich country kids are capable of. Now, regardless of how ignorant they still are, they hate whats going on rather than what they imagine is going on.
Sorry for rant; you brought back a prominent memory.