Tfw extremely intelligent and talented

>tfw extremely intelligent and talented
>underachiever because I realize that life is ultimately pointless so I would rather spend time doing enjoyable stuff
anyone else with this problem?

Your only talent is that you were better in middle school maths then 20 people who happened to go in the same class

>choose to spend time doing enjoyable stuff
wheres the problem?

>tfw when I'm intelligent
>tfw I'm not a fag like OP and I actually enjoy math and science
>tfw enjoy my STEM job

If you want money go do business, kid. If not then stay out of stem

>it's another "smart but lazy" thread

/thread

Dunning-Kruger

>tfw I am not intelligent but I am surrounded by idiots

>Make quick conclusions about peoples relationships and their responses to things
>Always told by the same people my opinions on human behavior are wrong or they deny my opinion about them and get angry at me
>Later what I predicted to happen actually happens exactly how I thought it would
>They still deny I was right and make up more excuses for themselves

I'm not a genius or anything, but I've realised that by not lying to myself and trying to seek the truth out of everything I've lost the ability to respect or relate to the vast majority of people.

Pretty much the same here. I also dont really care about prestige or getting a shit ton of money. Just do the things you want to do

some specific example for this? I mean we all end up in situations where we can say "see, I told you!"

Recommending my mother on what smartphone to buy as she was fed up with her anchient touch-pad handset. She wanted the cheapest phone she could find even though i warned her it would be unuseable and the leap to a budget smartphone isnt beyond her plus id teach her. She bought a pre-owned phone that was extremely laggy and still had several buttons on it, ended up returning it and now she wants a phone just like I initially recommended.

Same thing with our lawnmower that has a cable shorter than the length of our garden, she ran over the cable and instead of buying a new, longer cable and letting me repair it she bought a smaller mower with an even shorter cable and two extension leeds which still don't cover the full length of our garden. The newer mower is also smaller because its so cheap and does a poorer job so I bought a replacement cable and fixed the old mower making everything she bought pointless and inferior to my first solution.

I've made comments about her relationships with random guys she meets at clubs too and she doesn't understand why I keep all of them at an arms reach and "why i'm so unfriendly" towards them when I know it not going to work out and it never does.

In fact, I'm just ranting about my single mother.

It just seems your mom is retarded, not that you are a genius. Also, single moms aren't known for the good decisions they take in life.

>I've made comments about her relationships with random guys she meets at clubs too and she doesn't understand why I keep all of them at an arms reach and "why i'm so unfriendly" towards them when I know I'm going to be up all night listening to some deadbeat meth addict banging my mom against the wall between our bedrooms while she screams for him to hit her harder, forcing me to realize that while I may be smarter than her, both her and and the druggie are living happier, more fulfilling lives than I could ever expect to.
fixed that for you

if you are an underachiever that makes you automatically not smart user, stop thinking so highly of yourself

>thinks he is extremely intelligent and talented
>is a nihilist

pick one, OP.

Being frustrated in the irrational behavior of some women doesnt make you extraordinary empathic, user. We all have to deal with this shit.
>Make quick conclusions about peoples relationships and their responses to things
No, you dont. If you could, you would have succesfully talked your mom into not buying shit

If you tell someone that he's a very smart kid all his life, he'll end up believing it.

fucking this

I struggled with school and socialising growing up and also in early adulthood, with noticeable affects on my personality to this day. Not having a present father figure to discipline me made my performance in school suffer heavily and I scraped passing grades through all of my compulsory education. I think the worst thing for me though was being raised not by somebody who was unable to teach me discipline, but somebody who herself has a selfish and dismissive personality and has no clue why all the issues I did and still do have exist.

I've done much better for myself in the last two years and I'm actually going to be starting a chemical engneering degree at a university several hours away because I self studied for the entry exams and have been given a chance. However my mother and I do not get along at all and she thinks that I am going to university to avoid having a "real job" and because it will be away from her "after all shes done for me". She's not proud of me because that would mean she'd have had some kind of investment in me on a personal level.

I'm not a naturally intelligent person but my father is highly successful, I also work hard since I have nothing to lose and living here with my mother is hell.

If you are a smart person, people will end up recognizing it

>No, you dont. If you could, you would have succesfully talked your mom into not buying shit

I get it that you want to believe I am somehow just as much to blame as she is for our relationship, and I would be an idiot to claim I am somehow perfect and infalliable.

But she does not listen to me and it isn't a matter of my negotiation capabilities.

Fuck, I really wish I didn't speak in absolutes all the goddamn time.

>I am somehow just as much to blame
no that wasnt my point
Ending up in a situation where a stubborn person doesnt listen to you, doesnt make you extra empathic or anything

Congrats on getting the chance to get an engineering degree (even though that's gay).
But if it's clear that your mother sucks so much, why are you giving her the time of day? Tolerate her, don't bicker, don't make suggestions, do the things (as stupid as they may be) that she asks (sounds like she is providing you room anyhow) and just get along. Being able to do these things with people you don't like because you recognize that it leaves you in a better state is a sign of maturity. Be the bigger person. Maybe your relationship will even improve.

What was it that I said that made you bring that up?

pretty much everythin here:

>le smart but lazy meme (:

Its easy to say "just don't provocate" but I think by virtue of how I will openly discuss solutions to thigs to her (because i want to make life easier) it illicits these disputes between us. There is also the fact that I want us to see things from each others point of view and I don't see how giving up is going to make that happen, i'd rather her disown me for a few years if it meant our relationship would eventually repair.

I'm all fucked up and my only saving grace with this is that I laugh at it when I'm in a good mood, what else am I meant to do?

>smart people cant be lazy
>hurr durr its not smart to be lazy

Empathy is difficult, generally I try to be polite to people and hang around with those who won't hesitate to tell me when I'm being stubborn.

I do believe I am more empathetic than my mother though.

Oh boy, you are in for a ride, when you get a gf that is overly emotional and stubborn. It doesnt really get easier to tolerate irrational behavior when your sexlife depends on it

>anyone else with this problem?
Just you and the gorilla-poster.

Was anyone else here raised by Intellectual relativist parents who would tell you that everyone is "intelligent in different ways" - only to grow up realising they were absolutely wrong on every point and that the majority of people around you are dumb as bricks ?

>It's easy to say
user, please don't think that people not in your exact situation can't provide good, helpful advice.
If you mean to say it's hard work that you don't want to do, then you've lost your right to complain reasonably.

>Its easy to say "just don't provocate" but I think by virtue of how I will openly discuss solutions to thigs to her (because i want to make life easier) it illicits these disputes between us.
That's wishful thinking and you know it - it sounds like you have no precedent that would make you expect taking things that direction would lead to anything productive. Stop it.

>There is also the fact that I want us to see things from each others point of view and I don't see how giving up is going to make that happen,
I'm not telling you to give up, I'm telling you to withdraw. She refuses to see things from your point of view, and it doesn't sound like you were getting any helpful information to see things from her point of view. Certainly, then, keeping to yourself in this manner will keep the "see each other's views" stuff at the same level.

>i'd rather her disown me for a few years if it meant our relationship would eventually repair.
It's perfectly possible to do this stuff without being disowned. Stop being so melodramatic.

>I'm all fucked up and my only saving grace with this is that I laugh at it when I'm in a good mood, what else am I meant to do?
Again with the melodrama. Protip man: we've all got our own problems that nobody else can perfectly relate to. But we carry on, and some of us enjoy life more because we take the sort of approach i advocated. Hell, even you have ccarried on: despite all of your problems, you're headed to get a degree. It sounds like you've lost the right to call yourself "all fucked up".

I want to add that being able to continue following orders by an unreasonable authority without giving your input is a skill many of us have had to develop in various workplaces.

I assume that being a man is not entertaining women when they have those kinds of moments and appropriately handling the situation. I'm not very good at it and I want to pretty much walk away but I am getting there through experience

I was typing up a lengthy respose but I decided not to

I realised that this conversation we are having right now is an example of the damage that I attribute towards being raised by my mother. I'm struggling to explain to you the problems that I have in life in a way that you can understand because I lack that kind of empathy, it was never encouraged in me to see things from other peoples points of view and that is the relationship me and my mother have. I wouldn't call it wishful thinking because I don't make recommendations to her that are anything beyond what I see as reasonable to her (lawnmower and smartphone problem) but even small things like that make me and my mother argue and bicker.

You see it as melodrama because I haven't accurately given you the whole picture, again, thats my fault for not internally considering your perspective. I've done things like leave the country for months because my relationship with her was at a point that she couldn't be in the same room as me, there have been court threats made because of inheritance that I was entitled to, and a lot of other things that I am not happy about at all.

I take solace in the fact that at least nowerdays I can have moments where I see other peoples ponts of view, its a connection that I have rarely felt and it humanizes me, just like this conversation does.

>I was typing up an angry* respose but I decided not to

>I was typing up a lengthy respose but I decided not to
>types up lenghty response