Are there any actual negative effects of marijuana or is it just another weak meme ?

Does inhaling burning plant matter sound healthy to you?

Yes.

The sun gives you cancer.
Might as well go swim in a reactor pool for shits.

Dude, there are filters.... Imagine bong that goes 10 times trought the water...

Congratulations. Now you're inhaling burning plant matter and water.
Now what?

I hope you have a protective suit to keep you away from all the cancerous sunlight.

Schizophrenia

Its not good for you unless you use it as a pain reliever but its not like it will ruin your life like say heroin or meth.

Negative effects: Less addictive than alcohol but more than LSD.
Damage to lungs (not cigarette tier but inhaling burning anything causes damage).
Some neural damage and aome studies found links with psychosis but its not certain and only in extreme cases.

So like I said, its not that bad but lets not pretend its good for you.

In elicit and in some cases exacerbate symptoms of predisposed schizophrenia. However, it can not cause it.

Messes with metabolism, respiration rate, cognition, among other things, it's interesting how people tout a substance that interacts with a profound receptor systems as being benign, a lot of people probably think weed is magic.

No weed is 100% good for you, do it always and there will be no negative side effects it makes you superhuman at everything you do.

It's an intoxicant, so it can be addictive. It's probably carcinogenic to a minor degree. It affects some memory faculties. It can be schizophrenogenic.

this fagget again

I just wish there was more research on how to mitigate harmful side effects of common recreational drugs. It seems like a pertinent question but you'll probably get shut down by regulatory agencies for encouraging drug use or some stupid shit.

This ad has a point, it does indeed make you lazier. Sure, you have exceptions like Phelps, but generally speaking you can be doing something productive or you can be smoking pot and just chilling, doing nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I love it and I think that it's positives outweight its negatives; that's why I take it and MDMA, which has even more drawbacks. However, it's irresponsible to pretend like it has no side-effects.

I'm not sure if Marijuana makes you stupid, or the people who do it are stupid already. In high school maybe 5 or 10% of people in first track smoked compared to a majority of second track and pretty much all of third track. You are already in those tracks but 7th grade, but most people who smoked didn't start until 8th or 9th grade.

Apparently its the first one. My friend said that weed makes him feel stupider, so he avoids smoking it during term-time.

>aerodynamic

It's called hydrodynamic, shitlord!

You keep your head above the water when swimming fuckface. Didn't you ever watch olympics swim ?

Literally all weeders are lazy and stupid so yeah. Idiots don't feel stress so they do stupid shit and fuck up their life. They are too stupid to realize that and they will just ignore it because weed is cool in every american TV show.

I can't hear you over the clinging noises of the medals won by the druggie

Yeah and Maradona liked cocaine, just like Gascoigne, your point? Don't let it interrupt your Seth Rogen marathon.

it means weed makes you a lazy loser is a meme as it is disproven countless times by globally known successfull smokers.

Your body has an endocannabinoid system - it makes compounds very similar to those found in cannabis. Dosed properly, cannabinoids are some of the healthiest chemicals one could consume having been shown to reduce inflammation, protect brain cells and fight cancer.

The problems are:
1) Few people dose properly or even know how to.
2) Money, greed and racism mean there's no serious research on the plant and it remains illegal.

Some safety points:
1) Don't use it if your brain is still developing (true for all drugs). Adults only.
2) Use caution if you have any mental issues.
3) Don't rip bowls daily.
4) Vaporize instead of burn.

>4) Vaporize instead of burn.
Would it not be better to make some kind of tincture or extract and consume orally?

What is a "proper" dose?

I had a pothead room mate with schizophrenia and he was scary when he smoked. One night he told me he was looking around the living room for things to murder me with. My door didn't lock to my bedroom so I ended up sleeping with a machete for a few months.

I'm already lazy. If I started doing the devil's lettuce now, what will happen to me?

That picture. You don't have to practice, you just need to smoke weed and then you will be the next Phelps...

Phelp is lazy, he retired and later came back.
If he didn't take weed he had never retired and would have won more medals.

Succes despite weed

>guys, your body has a system which allows it to be affected by drugs you guys
>that means drugs must be natural
>all natural things are good

Druggie logic, ladies and gents.

Depends on what you are trying to accomplish, but in general yes.

Eg. If you are trying to treat diseases like epilepsy or promote tumor regression, you need doses that are difficult, if not impossible, to achieve with inhalation, so one would use the oil. If you're alleviated anxiety, for example, vaporizing is a good method and very cost effective.

>Knows nothing about the endocannabinoid system
>Hasn't read the scientific literature demonstrating the immune modulating abilities of endo- and exo- cannabinoids.
>Clearly doesn't do their own research as evidenced by their comments.

Ignorant, anti-science douchebag logic, ladies and gents.

At least cannabinoids don't really lead to excitotoxicity like stimulants /shrug/

>Evidence suggests that endocannabinoids may function as both neuromodulators and immunomodulators in the immune system. Here, they seem to serve an autoprotective role to ameliorate muscle spasms, inflammation, and other symptoms of multiple sclerosisand skeletal muscle spasms.Functionally, the activation of cannabinoid receptors has been demonstrated to play a role in the activation ofGTPasesinmacrophages,neutrophils, and BM cells. These receptors have also been implicated in the proper migration ofB cells into themarginal zone(MZ) and the regulation of healthyIgMlevels. Interestingly, some disorders seem to trigger anupregulationof cannabinoid receptors selectively in cells or tissues related to symptom relief and inhibition of disease progression, such as in that rodent neuropathic pain model, where receptors are increased in the spinal cord microglia, dorsal root ganglion, and thalamic neurons.

It seems like it would be nice if you got the right amount.

Every time I have smoked (admittedly, not a ton), it makes me not want to do shit except I guess talk or watch a movie. There is no way I could do homework or exercise or think critically while high.

But maybe if you're just a little high or have higher tolerance it would be better.

its because you have subtle schizo genes. if you have subtle schizoness in you (not schizophrenia or schizoid) you'll get lazy, paranoid, socially anxious sometimes all three

source? none, that's just my observation. It affects me like that, thats why i dont smoke weed anymore

Have you ever been a competitive swimmer? I have, you CANNOT be lazy and a competitive swimmer at the same time. 3 hours of swimming laps non-stop every day, and thats for highschool level competition. I dont even know how olympic swimmers make time for eating and sleeping with all the training they do.

>Have you ever been a competitive swimmer?
well actually.....

>it's not weed fault, it's your genes fault
>Just like it's your gene's faults that Komodo Dragon's poison can kill you, if you had the right genes it would be medicine.

Keep smoking pot, maybe you'll become a competitive swimmer too.

Pros

>can open windows and help see everyday problems or lifelong issues from another perspective, which can help a lot
>you get to kill like 2 hours just lying on a couch flattened just wandering in thoughts until you decide to put some cool music or a good video game you like to play
>smoking with friends can be cool and a lot of fun, in this aspect it does remind me of being very drunk, you simply feel fine next morning

Cons

>Affects your cognition (like being drunk kinda) in a way that recent thoughts or shit people are saying can be difficult to grasp or keep in short term memory
>It is very addictive and with the previous con it can lead you to being a zombie having a very hard time communicating, but still keep a good mood.

I'm fighting hard right to at least reduce my tolerance a little bit by quitting for a week or so but I don't think I'll make it, I just love that shit

the ganj is good m8

after a long day of study i need to hit that shit

little to zero effect the next day, unless super early class maybe a bit groggy

>coffeedude.jpg

Sorry, but the water is actually extremely effective at shielding radiation. You just proved the point that only fuck wits think marijuana is bad.

Maybe you should study punctuation and capitalization.

It actually may have medicinal purposes outside of relieving pain. Tobacco is perfectly healthy, you just can't use concentrated, factory produced tobacco products riddled with additives. Most of the anti marijuana sentiment came from the film Reefer Madness. Reefer Madness was created to profit off of the hysteria of the sin tax put on marijuana that made it have taxes similar to alcohol.

marijuana use deposits tar and small amounts of resin into the lungs, but the THC is a broncho-dilator which allows for more oxygen to reach the bloodstream. And with more oxygen passing through and a moderate controlled use of marijuana the tar will not build up to anything more than living in china for a month. it passes out of your lungs as long as you're getting good exercise.

>im not an expert
>but im not retarded

you might become unlazy, if you want to. but if you're a lazy faggot with no motivation NOW you probably will remain as such.

>Tobacco is perfectly healthy
>Carcinogens are healthy
>Coating your lungs in burnt carbon is healthy
>Becoming chemically addicted through nicotine is healthy

Stop. Even if pot doesn't have nicotine, you still have to address the eventuality of coating your lungs in burnt plant matter, which is never good. Are there some benefits to pot? Sure, but do not claim it is this magical medicinal plant that somehow cures everything when it does not and at the same time introduces foreign material to your lungs

fucking kek

weed thread dude getting salty over punctuation

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I think stoners have a repulsive lifestyle it's bad enough to be associated with that

i think people that smoke weed and have active healthy lifestyles and a steady job are just utterly repulsive.

There are quite a few. Chronic smoking causes all kinds of problems in the long run. That's why Phelps quit smoking (and drinking).

Potheads are just in denial about their dependency, and overly sensitive and defensive when people call them out on it. Their notion that smoking has no negative side effects and/or that it is beneficial is just their wishful thinking.

>I've observed the genes of others and, more importantly, have isolated those responsible for what I've coined 'schizoness.'
Maybe stick to passing the bong with your bros and not claiming to understand science/math.

That simply is not the norm. Chronic smokers are affected by their habit to a point that they become incapable of leading anything like a healthy lifestyle. I'm talking about people in their 30s and older, who have smoked daily or more than once a week since they were teens. Sure, maybe there are a handful of high-functioning addicts that age, but they're outliers.

I've never tried weed and never will. Inhaling anything that is smoke is obviously bad for you. It also alters the chemicals in your brain, making you more lazy. Overall weed is for people who don't give a fuck about their future.

Yeah so we agree

you're not michael phelps you dumb cunt so you don't get to do that

Anecdotes aren't great but the people I know that smoke weed are all lazy as fuck. Whether they're like that because of weed or whether they sit around smoking weed all day because they were lazy to begin with I don't know but it sure as shit hasn't gotten them off their ass.

Also one guy had scizophrenia raising its head which apparently had something to do with weed.

>Sure, maybe there are a handful of high-functioning addicts that age, but they're outliers.
[citation needed]
And oh yeah...
>high-functioning addicts
>addicts
???

>A functioning addict can be defined as someone who is able to hide the excesses of their alcohol or drug use. An example of this would be the functioning alcoholic who may have a good job, a secure home life, and be respected in the community despite drinking an excessive amount of alcohol most day. To an outsider this individual will be functioning at a high level, but this may be hiding the reality that internally their life is falling apart.

>Messes with metabolism
how

>It also alters the chemicals in your brain, making you more lazy.

That largely depends on the person, strain, set and setting. Sure, there's a lot of lazy users (as with any drug), and then you have high functioning users. Silicon Valley is full of them. You'd be surprised how many programmers use it all day long and write code and work at productive rates.

>Overall weed is for people who don't give a fuck about their future.

That just a stupid comment in general. It's overgeneralized nonsense. There have been highly successful people who have used it, like most all recent presidents.

Oh captcha: "Select all images of grass."

Google smoke inhalation you fucking mong.

Dude, that makes no sense at all, look it up.
Swimming in a nuclear reactor pool is safe as fuck, you'll get less radiation than if you'd stand around outside.

what-if.xkcd.com/29/

I'll quote:

"But just to be sure, I got in touch with a friend of mine who works at a research reactor, and asked him what he thought would happen to you if you tried to swim in their radiation containment pool.
“In our reactor?” He thought about it for a moment. “You’d die pretty quickly, before reaching the water, from gunshot wounds.”"

Weak meme. Only mentally ill people might have a problem with it, but in some cases it is known to help people's mental illness. Also it can treat a slew of diseases and is anti-carcinogenic and anti-inflammatory, therefore it is anti-cancer.

>there are successful people who use thing, therefore it is perfectly harmless and probably good for you

I use all kinds of drugs in my free time but at least I'm not a delusional faggot who has to pretend it's not harmless or good for me. god I fucking hate stoners like you

Prohibitionist spotted

>tobacco is perfectly healthy

No one here will believe this, but I appreciate that you said it because it's true.

It's hard to pinpoint who can justify using it when there's numerous individuals who smoke it in your face because it's 'hip' and let's face it, the agenda on pot is stronger than ever eventually it'll pour out to places it hasn't been to before. Then again, it makes me angry I can't go outside without hearing "ayy weed lmao" when they're already lazy, it makes the drug look bad especially stupid dealers dealing it wrong too with their dumb ass attitude. In the end the idiots speak louder than the smarter people who use it, that's obvious. I have no problem with using it and have done so before, it's great for thinking, watching movies or autistically listening to music it's a good drug for anyone who has a brain, just my two cents.

Yes, people can and do develop a dependency on weed. Did Dude, Where's My Car? teach you otherwise?

Use your head, and do some research.

Weed has no permanent side effects and has zero connection to any of the pathologies of cigarette smoking. However, the longest study conducted says that there can be effects on the brain if marijuana is used abusively before the age of about 18. Marijuana use, even extremely abusive use, after the age of 18 will not have any permanent effects. It is harmless in the long term. In the short term, because it feels good and provides stress relief, it can be habit forming. However it has no biologically addicting component and is easy to quit for people with even a little bit of willpower. It is generally found to lower response time, hurt short term memory, and focus when under the influence.

tl;dr it is completely harmless if you start use as an adult, but habit forming. It should not be used abusively before the brain has finished developing.

Heavy brain development continues into your mid twenties.

Just saying what the study found.

sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/twins-study-finds-no-evidence-marijuana-lowers-iq-teens

>not harmless

Why do people believe it is harmful to begin with? All of the negative science is phatmaceutically funded. All of the positives aren't well known or fully discovered yet because only one university in the US is allowed to study weed.

Because Reagan era scaremongering worked on a lot of the populace and they don't have critical thinking skills.

>smoke inhalation

Does nothing.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130923143638.htm

You must think that since smoke is a foreign or outside object being inhaled by the lungs that it's somehow bad for you.

>You must think that since smoke is a foreign or outside object being inhaled by the lungs that it's somehow bad for you.
Well really it's because you're inhaling the products of a violent combustion of organic matter. While probably not as bad as inhaling plastic fumes, they're both bad for similar reasons.

>One study
Good that it's twins, but nonetheless I'd tend towards suggesting caution. Human physiology varies, and the body is a complex machine; anything else is poor risk assessment. Unfortunately I'm one of the few people I've ever met who takes the same approach with food as well.

As long as they're not 4/20 blazing it all day erry' day, it's probably fine.

Marijuana makes you feel stupid because you have the chance to feel really happy just to be alive (other effects may be discussed later if needed) and everything is funny, so you feel stupid after laughing at your terrible dexterity.

No. Weed either makes you feel stupid via dopamine depletion, histamine upregulation, or simply interference with cell signalling.

I've never been so burnt and braindead than after getting real high. I've done amphetamine to the point where I was a zombie and my motor functions were sloppy and scrambled, and it still didn't compare to just how stupid.

>phelps smoke some pot
>that makes it ok for me to smoke it!

keep it up honey

That's why I said, "there is a chance" when I was explaining why marijuana makes you stupid. Everyone reacts to it differently and in those groups of reactions, different strains make you feel even more different. You may be really fucking brain-dead after smoking a few bowls, but people like me get happy and/or go into deep self-reflection after a few bowls.

I meant I was braindead the day after. I become burnt for 2-3 days.

Otherwise weed separates me from the stream of my thoughts and I become capable of only watching them go by. It also makes me prone to mental regressions and leaves me stuck in memories I don't want as people I don't want to be again. Then it just leaves me there. Been years since I smoked, so I don't know if that would still be true.

I liked the slow motion moonwalking sensation though.

...

>3) Don't rip bowls daily.
Agree to disagree... I am almost done a Master's in physics and start a doctorate, and I smoke weed every day. Most of my best ideas come to me after a toke.

Just take ibuprofen before toking and it negates the short-term memory loss effects.

>It also makes me prone to mental regressions and leaves me stuck in memories I don't want as people I don't want to be again.

>"Carcinogenicity studies of inhaled cigarette smoke in laboratory animals: old and new"
>S.S. Hecht, Carcinogenesis 2005 26(9):1488
>[p.1489]...The animals were exposed for 5 months, then allowed a 4 month recovery period.... The increases in tumor multiplicity were generally small, from ~1 tumor per mouse to ~2.8, following exposure to 50-170 mg/m3 of total suspended particulates. The increase in tumor multiplicity observed in this model was due to a component of the gas phase of tobacco smoke....The 4-month recovery period is absolutely necessary for observation of increased lung tumor multiplicity, but the reason for this is not clear.
>[p.1492] Note added in proof: A recent study (W. Stinn et al. 2005) indicated that the recovery period in the A/J mouse smoke inhalation model is necessary to overcome stress induced inhibition of lung tumorigenesis, and that the lack of weight gain during the smoke inhalation period was unrelated to the final tumor multiplicity.
>Well, there it is -- increased lung tumors were observed (in A/J mice, a specially bred cancer-mice which gets lung tumors spontaneously), attributed of course to inhalation of tobacco smoke, but somehow, for the smoking to "cause" these lung tumors, the mice has to quit smoking, then it has go through the perversely named "recovery period" (non-smoking) of similar duration as previous smoking, and only then "smoking" will somehow cause increase in tumors. But had they continued smoking instead of ostensibly "recovering" from the ravages of smoking, smoking would not have caused increase in tumors (and it would have even extended their lifespan well beyond that of the non-smoking mice). Orwell was an amateur for these newspeak magicians.

"Another experimental paper (G.M. Curtin et al, 2004) explains the "recovery period" somewhat more bluntly:"
>[p. 26] Demonstration of increased tumor formation required that the standardized 20-week exposure period be followed by a 16-week recovery period, during which mice were provided filtered air. Bogen and Witschi (2002) provided justification for the recovery period; more specifically, it was suggested that tobacco smoke exposure suppresses the growth of premalignant foci, and that smoke induced lung tumor risk occurs predominantly via a genotoxic mechanism. Consequently, the recovery period allows tobacco smoke-induced genetic damage to progress to tumors.

Basically what I'm trying to say with the greentext is that smoking actually does not do what you're suggesting, and I like how you took a picture of a snippet of a study without providing who funded it (Pfizer by any chance? Some other gigantic pharmaceutical company?) or any other context.

Yes.