Reading Schopenhauer's "Art of Controversy" and realized it's basically "Advanced Shitposting Strategies"
>Stratagem XIV
>This, which is an impudent trick, is played as follows: When your opponent has answered several of your questions without the answers turning out favourable to the conclusion at which you are aiming, advance the desired conclusion, — although it does not in the least follow, — as though it had been proved, and proclaim it in a tone of triumph. If your opponent is shy or stupid, and you yourself possess a great deal of impudence and a good voice, the trick may easily succeed. It is akin to the fallacy non causae ut causae.
>Stratagem XXXII
>If you are confronted with an assertion, there is a short way of getting rid of it, or, at any rate, of throwing suspicion on it, by putting it into some odious category; even though the connection is only apparent, or else of a loose character. You can say, for instance, "That is Manichaeism" or "It is Arianism," or "Pelagianism," or "Idealism," or "Spinozism," or "Pantheism," or "Brownianism," or "Naturalism," or "Atheism," or "Rationalism," "Spiritualism," "Mysticism," and so on. In making an objection of this kind, you take it for granted (1) that the assertion in question is identical with, or is at least contained in, the category cited - that is to say, you cry out, "Oh, I have heard that before"; and (2) that the system referred to has been entirely refuted, and does not contain a word of truth.
I'm surprised this isn't on the Veeky Forums starter pack
Alexander Powell
God could you imagine? Everyone here would have an advanced degree in shitposting, it's be intolerable. But then again maybe we'd develop whole new levels of shitposting. Take shitposting to heights we can't even dream about. A brave new shitposting world.
Tyler Barnes
I'm going to read it and up my game and get hella (You)'s .
Daniel Smith
holy shit
Jason Cook
>"Oh, I have heard that before"; and (2) that the system referred to has been entirely refuted, and does not contain a word of truth.
this LITERALLY what you faggots keep doing to me, I hate it so much
Ethan Campbell
>On Womeme >The Art of Shitposting
Schopenhauer confirmed as No.#1 meme philosopher
Asher Turner
>Schopenhauer confirmed as No.#1 meme philosopher that is Hegelianism
Jace Thomas
just imagine a graduate seminar in shitposting with the Schopster
Leo Parker
>stratagem XXXII impudent memesters begone
Daniel Bailey
ad hominem
Noah Sullivan
#2, Diogenes successfully shitposted Plato
Xavier Collins
Arthur was so much ahead of his time
He basically invented MGTOW, shitposting and /pol/.
>The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmans, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature and out of it all came their high civilization
My favorites are "Make your opponent angry", "Claim victory despite defeat", and of course "Become personal, insulting, rude".
Oliver Phillips
>ignoring the excellent "Meet him With a Counter-Argument as Bad as His"
this site has certainly learned a thing or two
Andrew Parker
Despite all the shitposting, Schopehhauer's philosophy is one of the best of XVIII-XIX centuries.
Nicholas Brown
Is Schoppenhauer the master of (you)s?
Jaxon Nelson
Apologize.
David Sanchez
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Colton Taylor
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Carter Garcia
Holy fucking shit he invented shitposting
Jonathan Evans
*cough*
Dylan Bailey
fuck, why isn't this in my book of schopenhauer's aphorisms?
Elijah Morgan
these aren't aphorisms
Jacob Martin
>ywn watch Schoppy and Diogenes try to outshitpost each other
Lincoln Jackson
Where are his posts bruh
Jaxon Cruz
a mod deleted them
Wyatt Rodriguez
I was going to point out that I see this sort of thing all the time. In it's most common form:
>(cultural) Marxism!
Nicholas Gomez
On Reading, On Noise, On Suicide
Christian Perry
kek post more pls
Ryder Reed
>Schopenhauer's "Art of Controversy" well, it's a book of essays and aphorisms, to be precise.
Angel Scott
Sadly, Schopenhauer didn't get very many (You)'s in his lifetime, and often had to toil away in obscurity while Hegel soaked up all the dank (You)dom. And so he vowed to create a masterpiece of generating and churning out enough (You's) for generations of future young men so that they would never know what it is to be cucked by a fucking faggot Chad named Hegel. We now have access to this power, and never again will we go wanting
Connor Stewart
wew. Stratagem XXXII describes like 90% of the posts on this board
Julian Long
yes but OP's stratagem excerpts themselves are not aphorisms
Luke Robinson
Spooks. I win!
Jose Lopez
I have this in book form.
You fucks haven't read it.
He distinguishes between what is 'right' and what is 'true'. The book might help you with the former, but Schopenhauer actually disowned the work in his later years upon realizing that it is better to have the truth than to win mere arguments/debates. Of course, you can do both at the same time: but where you can't convince the mob, err on the side of truth.
EVEN STILL, he wasn't really recommending the arguments he advises, so much as pointing them out in an ironic/sarcastic way. In pointing them out, he is rendering them less capable of crippling you.
Mason Kelly
Things like Marxism have been entirely refuted, though. There are times when the arguments apply.
Luke Wilson
Marxism is simply a misinterpretation of Hegel.
Isaiah Peterson
And Hegel is a misinterpretation of morality.
Heh...
Hunter Gomez
We can try to fix that with Lacan
Austin Cook
You can't polish a turd.
The trouble with so much of Western philosophy is that it held Hegel to be the heir to Kant, rather than Schopenhauer.
Hence all the esoteric obscurantism we see in Post-Modernism/Structuralism/etc.
Dominic Bennett
>Make your opponent angry
>This trick consists in making your opponent angry; for when he is angry he is incapable of judging aright, and perceiving where his advantage lies. You can make him angry by doing him repeated injustice, or practising some kind of chicanery, and being generally insolent.
Jacob Cox
>le shit in the streets man
That's just being an Indian
Brandon Morales
Where can you read stuff that Diogenes wrote? Isn't it mostly second hand retellings of the things he might have said?
Gavin Torres
You're just butthurt.
Julian Bell
>Should he maintain that Berlin is an unpleasant place to live in, you may say, "Why don't you leave by the first train?"
I guess Berlin was a pisshole even before the muzzies invaded
David Powell
That's the opposite of a pseud.
On women is his least interesting or enlightening piece of writing. It's just for mysoginistic tards. 2 volumes of world as will, fourfold root and people focus on that essay
Brayden Fisher
>Unironically subscribing to the 'misogyny' conspiracy theory
Easton Cox
>words don't have meaning >things are not to be deduced unless stated by an approved authority figure or a flawless argument is constructed that is then approved by the same authority figure
schoppy disliked women. is this even disputed?
Brandon Cooper
Why's that wrong, though?
Seems pretty reasonable tbqh
Jack Bennett
Don't forget Schoppy applied this as a teenager on fancy parties with the likes of Goethe and such in attendance.
Owen Campbell
aka copypasta
Charles Sanders
Reality has a misogynistic bias.
Cameron Phillips
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Angel Foster
His writings are lost, so you probably already know everything about him that you can know. Too bad he didn't have a group of lackeys like Socrates to write down Diogenic dialogues.
>I believe the virtue of justice lies in the separation of labor >I believe Athens is buttfucking the rest of Greece >But Athens is the bastion of Greek democracy >My vote doesn't ever change an election, but my shit can serve as fertilizer that helps grow the food that keeps us alive. Which is more valuable, my shit or your precious state that defies your definition of virtue?
Connor Roberts
>Goethe The romantics must have been the most fun group of people to get worked up. Imagine Hugo's face when you made fun of any French defeat
Liam Cook
Taking a 5 year old meme from Reddit, for shame.
Dominic Bell
it was if you remember deep&edgy
Adrian Adams
you deserve more (You)s Diogenes is like a stock character, and there's only one anecdote which has a chance of being from a contemporary out of all of them. What's great about Diogenes is that for hundreds of years after any time anyone came up with some shit a Diogenes memer would come up with, they said they were quoting Diogenes not making shit up.
