>In May, Megyn Kelly, of Fox News, asked him to name his favorite book, other than the Bible or “The Art of the Deal.” Trump picked the 1929 novel “All Quiet on the Western Front.” Evidently suspecting that many years had elapsed since he’d read it, Kelly asked Trump to talk about the most recent book he’d read. “I read passages, I read areas, I’ll read chapters—I don’t have the time,” Trump said.
All Quiet on the Western Front... Is he patrician, Veeky Forums?
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no lol
He's a business genius renowned for his skills at deal making. He's got an IQ of 156, dude knows what he is doing. I'm talking world class intelligence.
Then why does he sound so fucking stupid whenever he opens his mouth?
>people actually believe this
Maybe you just don't get him
because he has to appeal to his voting base.
I don't think he read it
He is an idiot. Being good at business doesn't mean you are good at other things.
>Being good at business doesn't mean you are good at other things.
Business and politics go hand in hand. Not much of a difference.
This. Trump is very intelligent, but he's dumbing it down to appeal to the lowest common denominator
He means to say "On the Marble Cliffs, the uncensored edition, by Ernst Junger, for which I intend to learn German in order to read it in the original."
Because Trump's a fucking fascist.
Fascism is Italian you dumb cunt, and Ernst Junger wasn't fascist
I don't know how anyone can read and appreciate the Western Cannon and still oppose Trump. He's our Charles Martel, our Caesar, our Lionheart.., our last bulwark against barbarism. Reading has thought me a lot about the beauty of White European Civilization, but some people would rather tear it all down and replace it with sharia courts, twerking and reality TV programming about Muslim transexuals. That's a shame.
Your adolescence is emanating from my screen
Not an argument.
right there, cletus
Who was the most literary president? Trump will be the least literary, obviously.
>implying you have to be young to be willfully ignorant
Though to be fair I don't think your average obsolete old white racist browses Veeky Forums
Kennedy
>all these spooks
Trump is Gatsby
But user, fascism is the most patrician ideal there is.
trump doesn't know shit outside of promoting himself. master businessman? the art of the deal was 100% bs. any and all politcal nuance he has is dictated by his children. it is laughable how many people are falling for him being anything more than a veneer. he's not an idiot but even he himself knows he's not fit to run a country - hell, he promised kasich he would be in charge of foreign and domestic policy if he accepted the vp role.
you're probably just mad cause your subpar genetics landed you at the wrong side of the bellcurve, face it, statistically I'm probably smarter than you. And remember, don't push it or there will be hell to pay.
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No. Read Obama's letters in college; now there's a patrician:
>I haven’t read “The Waste Land” for a year, and I never did bother to check all the footnotes. But I will hazard these statements — Eliot contains the same ecstatic vision which runs from Münzer to Yeats. However, he retains a grounding in the social reality/order of his time. Facing what he perceives as a choice between ecstatic chaos and lifeless mechanistic order, he accedes to maintaining a separation of asexual purity and brutal sexual reality. And he wears a stoical face before this. Read his essay on Tradition and the Individual Talent, as well as Four Quartets, when he’s less concerned with depicting moribund Europe, to catch a sense of what I speak. Remember how I said there’s a certain kind of conservatism which I respect more than bourgeois liberalism — Eliot is of this type. Of course, the dichotomy he maintains is reactionary, but it’s due to a deep fatalism, not ignorance. (Counter him with Yeats or Pound, who, arising from the same milieu, opted to support Hitler and Mussolini.) And this fatalism is born out of the relation between fertility and death, which I touched on in my last letter — life feeds on itself. A fatalism I share with the western tradition at times. You seem surprised at Eliot’s irreconcilable ambivalence; don’t you share this ambivalence yourself, Alex?
>hell, he promised kasich he would be in charge of foreign and domestic policy if he accepted the vp role.
Made-up.
poems are 4 fags lol
Gatsby was rich, though.
I can easily see Trump making a better analysis.
embarrassing as fuck, on the same level as the isis propaganda shit
also that lion was fucked up pretty hard 70 years ago
It's bait you retard
Yeah, but national socialism wasn't
i love trump but this book sucks
confirmed for not patrician
I can see myself making a better analysis, but only because I want to see it.
Literally zero arguments in this thread.
His business is leasing his name to other people to develop properties around.
All if the businesses he has been directly involved in have gone bankrupt. He is incredibly vain and overstates his income..
We are fucking doomed
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Trump is literally a 1:1 copy of Tom Buchanan
Except instead of polo, he likes golf
If you poo on Trump's face hard enough will it penetrate his skull
Don't worry you're both high off of semiotics
He really is, right down to getting cucked
How can you misunderstand one of the easiest characters in all of literature to this large a degree...
I hate Hillary Clinton but her book taste is v. patrish.
Just looked up Hillary Clinton's favourite books and apparently her favourite book is The Brothers Karamazov.
Nice bait
For fuck's sake, you made me look and sure enough it's bullshit.
The one man in America to actually finish The Stranger instead of just carrying around hoping that girls will notice.
You sure about that m8s?
Tony Schwartz, ghostwriter of ‘The Art of the Deal,’ says Trump book should have been titled ‘The Sociopath’:
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Trump demands 'Art of the Deal' ghostwriter return all royalties:
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They are running for president.
They saw the questions beforehand and a team of well trained people thought very hard about which book would make them look best, I don't think you can count on them having read the book
The Trump "I don't have the time" part seems kind of adlibbed though
Good goy.
>muh genius
>muh appealing to voter base by dumbing down everything i say
>muh working class everyday hero
Now, I am enjoying his campaign as a non-american, but let's face it: Trump is a con man, and this is the biggest con ever. And the driving factor behind this is Trump's lust for attention. He says he hates the biased media, but in secret he is loving every second of it. He doesn't care anout anything anyone says about him, as long as they're TALKING about him. And right now everyone's talking. This has been what's driving him all along, the attention. He did the campaign for attention, he wants to become president for the attention, not the power itself.
Your $0.05 will arrive shortly.
Shit like this is why everyone hates the media. If you behaved like this in public you'd justly be considered obnoxious.
>Because Trump's a fucking fascist.
top kek
>revolutionary
>corporatist
>Romantic
>aesthetically-motivated
How is Trump's stated platform ANY of these things?
Probably Wilson or Kennedy.
you are wife slept of a blackened man, and I am loling aloud at this fact
Lol I hate Trump but this is just not true. A portion of his business is leasing his name but Trump Corp. actually owns/runs all the hotels and golf courses.
Ironically Obama has become the living personification of Bourgeoisie Liberalism. A shame, must've been a pretty kool lit stoner dude in college.
Mussolini was really into theatricality and pseudo-roman kitsch. One could say Trump's standup comedian/ lifestyles of the rich and famous/ football coach/ Vegas televangelist persona is a rough analogue to continental fascism via grotesque Americana.
>Liberal
>Obama
>Not Corporatist
>Mussolini was really into theatricality and pseudo-roman kitsch
100%. And the whole "politics-as-art, policy subservient to art" approach is textbook fascist.
But Trump shows no intention of governing in accordance with any coherent aesthetic principles. Republicanism doesn't really allow for something like that in the first place, since it intrinsically devalues the lives of the citizenry and a paradigm shift like that can't really work in a society where voters have an actual say. Even if he redecorates the White House in tacky golden trappings, he still won't be aestheticizing politics in the sense that Walter Benjamin described. Add to that the other things mentioned, and it really doesn't seem to me like Trump is a fascist. After all, not all authoritarian nationalists get the label.
He's not very good at politics either, he comes up with the same sort of grandiloquent but retarded conclusions edgy high schooles come to after watching a week of news.
It's very pretty how americans think they're part of "White European Civilization".
Face it faggots, Europe only hangs around with you because you have money but you're just as shit as the rest of America.
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
-Colin Powell
Roosevelt.
Teddy Roosevelt supposedly read a book a day for the majority of his life.
What he got out of them, no one can be sure, but he was an cool guy.
He should have picked The Leopard or All the King's Men. Maybe name-drop John Williams' Augustus.
He could easily win 100% of the Veeky Forums vote, just like that.
"Make America Veeky Forums again"
"How jejeune, Barry."
Please, Bernie wasn't far-left enough for Veeky Forums, we're full fedora here.
I'll just have to ask - where is the proof for this? I have never really seen anything that makes Trump seem like a particularly intelligent fellow.
Yes, he is rich - but he got a lot of money from his daddy and has done some really stupid business decisions in the past. He isn't a business genius on this. He has built a neat brand for himself, though and he does seem to be a good showman. He has made some good decisions.
But the thing is, the more I read about him the more he seems like a goddamn impulsive (actual, pathological, NPD sufferer) narcissist with ~average intelligence (you don't need a whole lot of intelligence if you're just very shameless - that alone gives you the edge over normal people).
It seems like some really hopeful thinking that behind the mask, there is a normal guy who isn't reckless or attention-seeking to the extreme. I've seen no proof. It'd be nice if it was true, though - if he does become president.
he was reading the equivalent of goosebump tier novels to read one a day. Unless he had a ferrari.
Sorta depends on what he read, too. And whether he read things several times or not.
Its one thing to read something like The Brothers Karamazov in a single day, another if the book is something more based on conveying information.
Also, it might just be told in the form "one book a day" even if it really just means "he read a lot every day". He might indeed finish short/light/information-based books in a day, others not.
>implying
The non-cancerous far-right (i.e., stuff that isn't libertarian nonsense) is roughly as patrician as the far-left, if not more so.
>I'll just have to ask - where is the proof for this?
Maybe the fact that his powers of persuasion are so keen that he successfully outmaneuvered more than a dozen candidates backed by political elites and wealthy donors with little more than a few fresh sentences and Tweets. Donald Trump is so intelligent that he has effectively dismantled an entrenched Republican aristocracy and propelled himself to be neck-and-neck with an entrenched Democratic aristocracy and he has made this look effortless.
>It seems like some really hopeful thinking that behind the mask, there is a normal guy who isn't reckless or attention-seeking to the extreme.
Take a look at his children - they are all exemplary individuals. Doesn't their fine quality and the way they speak favorably of their father reflect upon his own fine quality?
you speak like a literal cuck
Not an argument
>You forgot to tip your fedora
>Donald Trump is so intelligent that he has effectively dismantled an entrenched Republican aristocracy and propelled himself to be neck-and-neck with an entrenched Democratic aristocracy and he has made this look effortless.
Well, yes, he has done amazingly well in this stuff.
But I must say - I am European, in my country the populist neo-nationalists have been doing decently for some time. I have seen this before. Some of them are absolute idiots, some of them are, indeed, intelligent, albeit often a bit more dishonest than average (populism often takes a bit of that, as it requires oversimplifying of complicated issues and so on).
It does not take a huge amount of intelligence to be popular. It takes something, sure, but what if this "something" - the appeal to the lowest common denominator and so on - is not a mask used by an intelligent, reasonable guy?
What if DT really is as ridiculous as he seems? What if he is intelligent, but not reasonable? I mean, it'd be the worst if he was just as shallow, reckless, impulsive and attention-seeking as he seems. But it wouldn't be all that much better for him to be intelligent, reckless, impulsive and attention-seeking.
I'm kinda with you Trump supporters on this, though. I do genuinely hope that its just a mask. But I can't see it that way, there is no proof of a reasonable Trump.
>But I can't see it that way, there is no proof of a reasonable Trump
Trump has decades upon decades of experience making deals, negotiating, and guiding successful business ventures. You do not obtain his level of success by being unreasonable or a wild loose cannon. You do not obtain a reputation as a great deal-maker by being unreasonable.
>Trump has decades upon decades of experience making deals, negotiating, and guiding successful business ventures.
But...From what I've read, he hasn't done that well.
He got money from his father, and surely he hasn't fucked up that badly; but there is no amazing business prowess as far as I can see.
From what I can see, he might very well be a pathological narcissist.
> You do not obtain a reputation as a great deal-maker by being unreasonable.
Reputations hardly matter. He has a reputation as a great deal-maker thanks to a fictitious autobiography and a reality TV show.
>But...From what I've read, he hasn't done that well.
Right, he's only a billionaire.
>Reputations hardly matter.
How can they not matter?
>He has a reputation as a great deal-maker thanks to a fictitious autobiography and a reality TV show.
He has a reputation as a great deal-maker because he has managed to survive and thrive in the business world. Why would people continue to deal with him and why would he continue to have success if he is such an unreasonable, inept narcissist as you seem to suggest?
>if he is such an unreasonable, inept narcissist as you seem to suggest?
Why not? Being ruthless and shameless is not necessarily lethal for a businessman, might even help at times. I'm not calling him a complete retard, just not a good presidential candidate, and a not-so-great businessman. As far as recklessness goes, he has made plenty of mistakes.
>Right, he's only a billionaire.
Who got kickstarted by his father. He isn't some poor guy who, through wits and instincts, made himself a billionaire.
>Had the celebrity businessman and Republican presidential candidate invested his eventual share of his father’s real-estate company into a mutual fund of S&P 500 stocks in 1974, it would be worth nearly $3 billion today, thanks to the market’s performance over the past four decades. If he’d invested the $200 million that Forbes magazine determined he was worth in 1982 into that index fund, it would have grown to more than $8 billion today.
>Even the smaller figure exceeds the lower range of his possible net worth as reported to the Federal Election Commission, while the larger number exceeds by billions recent estimates of Trump’s worth by financial publications. And it would have come without the high-drama, roller-coaster career that has included four corporate bankruptcies.
-SV Date writing in National Journal
Seems like an awesome businessman to me m8. No, really, seems like someone who manages, but doesn't manage exceedingly well.
In all honesty, modern rightists are cringey AF with their 'fashy' haircuts and fixation on homoerotic neoclassical statuary. Bourgeoisie dorks LARPing as storm troopers are about as dignified as fursuiters
That's why it's all about the ideas, user.
>and a not-so-great businessman
Because 4 bankruptcies out of nearly 500 entities that have his name is a terrible record? Status as a billionaire is indicative of being a poor businessman?
He mathematically does not have the same growth he would have had if he had just handed his money off to someone else.
>Status as a billionaire is indicative of being a poor businessman?
Not necessarily a poor one, if by poor we mean somebody who actively loses money until he doesn't have the same billionaire status anymore.
But see
>le 'if he invested' meme
his brand. his connections. his legacy. worth a lot more than a stock portfolio.
>his eventual share
Trump's father died in 1999. Trump was already a billionaire on his own by that point. This argument also relies on that article having pinpoint accurate data on the value of Trump's company, the value of his inheritance, and a number of other metrics...which would be doubtful.
I don't know why your arguing with people who think you can put $50M in the bank and collect $6.5B invest in 30~ years.
I suppose in some twisted way you can say that if he either becomes president or starts making money faster at some point.
But please, just don't pretend that he is a genius. Accept that he is just a businessman who can manage, not a genius businessman who thrives so greatly.
And nothing about that is in conflict with diagnosing him with a personality disorder - or just generally considering hime a horrible option for presidency. Nothing about Trumps history proves a good guy behind the mask. He seems to like all attention, he seems to not really care about anyone but himself and so on, he seems to consider himself greater than he really is, but I must admit he also seems great at making others believe the same stuff he does. Which surely helps both a politician and a businessman - as far as their own good is concerned.
Hmm, seems true. Well, it isn't really a key claim for me, but I admit I was (partly) wrong. Nonetheless, Trump is no self made genius.
>Nothing about Trumps history proves a good guy behind the mask.
He has a long history of philanthropy and charity, he's raised a quality and tight-knit family, he promoted gender equality within his own company and selected women for leadership positions at a time when such a move was unheard of.
All of your opinions are based on misguided conjecture and it seems the thrust of your understanding of the man comes from Democratic memes. Nothing you say is based in reality. You're presented with a billionaire who came out of nowhere, fought from the bottom of the pile, and is now a breath away from the Presidency of the United States and still insist that this man is a bumbler (albeit one with incredible, magical luck).
Democrats don't read the news, of course he wouldn't know that when his voice mail got hacked all that were on there were calls of charities thanking him and women grovelling about how nice he was.
>He has a long history of philanthropy and charity
All wealthy people do this. It's an inroad into high society because it builds prestige, not to mention the massive, humongous tax writeoffs.
>he's raised a quality and tight-knit family
Ah yes, his 3 (THREE) wives are proof of that, aren't they? He wasn't such a great dealmaker when it came to his disastrous love life.
>he promoted gender equality within his own company
What does this have to do with being "a good guy"? It's a business decision through and through.
As far as I can see, you are misattributing all the natural things a businessman does to increase his power with the things a good guy does just because.
how can you not understand a talking cheeto
>came out of nowhere
He's been a celebrity for decades
>fought from the bottom of the pile
This is true but the other republicans were gutless, boring career politicians. It's not surprising people chose the loud, politically incorrect wildcard. He's there for his meme value
>long history of philanthropy and charity
He's also done shady stuff like kicking people off the land they lived on so he could build his golf courses
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> He wasn't such a great dealmaker when it came to his disastrous love life.
He actually had his wives sign prenups so this is just another point proving Trump's foresight and aversion to recklessness/risk.
>He's been a celebrity for decades
You misunderstand me. I meant to imply that his status as a legitimate contender in the Republican race came out of nowhere. He wasn't a "favorite" along the lines of Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.
>He has a long history of philanthropy and charity
Four women have come forward him along Epstein, whom he was good friends, whom is a pedophile and got out of a sentence; that Trump raped them when they were ten through twelve years old along with Epstein at his parties during the early 90's.
You think it's bullshit? Here's Epstein talking with his lawyer during his farce of a child.
Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.
On top of this almost all of his charity has been a sham.
Stop venerating a fucking pig