Already cashed some crypto profits for my cryogenics freezing.
This is literally the best thing you can allocate your money into. It makes so much sense, I mean why not ? You are going to die anyway, with or without cryogenics you will die, so why not take the chance ? What you have to lose from it ? What is more important, change your car when you are an old 80 years old fag, or guaranteeing eternal life ? Shit is a freaking bargain now.
I´m only freezing my brain and will pick a new body later (hopefully I’ll die old, so no point in sticking with an old body ). I couldn´t be comfier, worst case scenario I´ll be back around 2200 tops, but realistically speaking by 2100 we should be there for sure.
they remove the water from your cells and replace it with a glycerol-based chemical mixture to avoid that
there are serious companies in this industry, and each new frozen pacient is publicy announced in their website, etc... so i´ts not like they can just dispose everything and get away with it
about incentive, science will take us there naturally
today it doesn´t, but it will
bump for eternal life
i never freeze!
ill become a robot and buy as much crypto as I can and become rich and powerful!
>implying he can freeze and just end up in the future where eveything will be ok
you know chances are there will be a new eco system and your body will instantly get damaged as soon as you leave the cryogenics container.
Also keep in mind, the future is bionics with cloud computing for your brain. Your pathetic body is useless in the future
t. deathlet can't accept natural process in life and will devote all resources to fighting it while not living while having the chance
>they remove the water from your cells and replace it with a glycerol-based chemical mixture to avoid that
Do you have any clue about the current technology and what they are doing?
To successfully "freeze" someone you need the following: >they have to be frozen almost instantly, slow freezing damages the cells >they have to have a non-toxic cryoprotectarant reach every cell in the body
Neither of these are properly done in todays cryogeneics. The first one is possible with current tech. You can quick freeze using magnetic fields. The second one, they often use glycerol or glycerin based substances, which are generally toxic and damage tissue. They just don't have the substance needed to work. Lastly no one has any clue on how to protect every cell in the body with cryoprotectarnt quickly enough.
Basically all they would be able to do in the future is clone you using your dna. Your brain tissue will be too damaged.
You don't know to what you wake up to You can't handle it bro!!
>be in heaven, hanging out with God and Jesus >get unfrozen and revived back to earth >barred from heaven for doing demonic necromancy
That's the point. You have no way of knowing that you are the same you that went to sleep last night, so there is no point worrying about it.
Op how much do you pay these guys? Surely whatever you pay won’t be enough for them to run electricity, staff, research, rent, etc for hundreds of years. Won’t they run out of space to put frozen corpses in their building?
When you die you're reborn instantly.
All I'm saying is cryo today is a waste of money and does not work.
I'm sure people sell dna storage where you can spit in a jar or something and they can store it, so they can clone you in the future or something. Be a lot cheaper to do (store dna) and cloning tech actually works!
That's the continuity problem. We sense we are the same person based on a sense of continuity from moment-to-moment and day-to-day, but if there is a sudden shift of the neurophysiology, who's to say your consciousness will "continue"
That's why gradual rejuvenative therapies applied to our neurophysiology over time, much like how our biology operates, might be a promising longevity option.
Absolutely, rejuvenation is far suporior to cryo! I think the main point of cryo is just to get far enough into the future for better technologies to have developed, since there are no real options atm
You have 500 vacation years per lifetime.
If we sacrifice some virgin in honor of Satan can we beat the current bear market?
Confirmed. Satan admits that life extension will bring you eternal misery.
Just make it 99.99% the same, like a copy not a transfer.
>copy That's the problem; there is a possibility that a near-perfect copy of the neural model could spawn an entirely separate consciousness. But how does one "transfer" such a complex model without taking a snapshot or copy of it?
for not to say it couldn't work, but I'd definitely not stake my life of consciousness transference, unless there was no other option. Kind of like cryogenics in that sense
PRAISE KEK, GOD AND JESUS
Look at real life. There is no such thing as a transfer. Computers don't cut and paste, they copy, then delete the original.
I literally agree with this completely 100 fucking percent. My main goal in life is to make an album i'm proud of, and after that is freeze my body so I have a chance of seeing cool space travel shit in the future.
My problem with this is what if you are in the first batch of brains they unfreeze to try this shit on, but they cheaped out and hired Pajeet to code the simulation and its buggy as fuck so you are trapped in a virtual hell in eternal excruciating pain unable to escape or end it
While if you end up being conscious and trapped in your brain for eons! Imagine having no arms, eyes, legs, senses, etc.
It'll be a living nightmare, forever trapped in solitary confinement, you'll wish for death daily
>be op >here my money freeze me up plox >thousands of years pass by and science has advanced to incredible heights. Scientist1:Hey what do we do with all of these frozen brains? Scientist2: Oh those old things? Ha forgot all about those can’t believe people used to believe in that old pseudoscience. Just dump them they can’t be brought back now. >Into the dumpster OP goes along with the last traces of his existence
The theory also says the AI doesnt have to be evil and its punishing you for not doing enough to create it so it could save more people
that's kinda pointless, it's not like they can clone your consciousness too
you'd have to be a real narcissist to waste money on wanting a clone of yourself in the future
Could we rebuild your brain bit by bit using non-biological components until it is 100% non-biological? You understand where I'm going with this? Like the ship of Theseus, changing one tiny bit of your brain at a time so that your consciousness would not change between the biological and non-biological (non-perishable) brain. I find myself thinking about this fairly often, since the "just upload your consciousness into a cloud" a'la Black Mirror would just create a clone of you and you'd die all the same.
that's just arguing semantics. either way we are being punished and that shit sucks donkey balls.
You might have found a solution to Parfit's teletransportation paradox, which is what that episode is based off of.
Problem now is: which "part" is responsible for conciousness? How do you ensure that 'you' don't get blipped out when the wrong piece is replaced?
no part is responsible of your consciousness. There is not a rower on a boat in a stream, there is only the stream, according to Sam Harris who is my only contact to neuroscience but is admittedly an actual neuroscientist. This shouldn't then prove problematic to my theory.
Pretty sure being frozen in the first place, assuming it's a sin, would bar you entry to heaven.
They will attempt to defreeze people just to say they can.
Sam Harris built that metaphor on an earlier one (as he does with most of his work -- bastardizing and often butchering other thinkers) by Daniel Dennett, who said that consciousness is "the hum of the machine."
I'm dubious, however. All I'm saying is, when the time comes to start swapping bits out, take it slowly and carefully.
This is called a Moravec Transfer.
To sleep, perchance to dream, aye there's the rub.
What I don't understand is why billionaires aren't spending billions each year on research into life extension. You have a good life, don't you want to live it for as long as possible?
Some forward thinking people are doing this (Sergey Brin and Calico) but most are doing nothing