Thoughts on Mein Kampf Veeky Forums

What are your thoughts on Mein Kampf Veeky Forums??.

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The best book i have ever read.

a very amazing author.

God damn that's a sexy picture of hitler. I want to feel his mustache tickle my balls as he eats my boipussy.

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A real page-turner

I completely agree fellow user.

Huh, 6 replies, 3 posters.

Very boring and not very well written (although I know that it was dictated by Hitler and written by Hess so that's an acceptable excuse).

Oswald Mosley's books on fascism are much better

>Oswald Mosley
Listening to his sound bytes on jewtube almost makes me wish I was a bongistani. That man could oratate.

I look at it as a master peace..

You know what, that doesn't surprise me.

The big redpill

Shit prose and child like approach to issues.

To be fair to him it's hard to have good prose when you are dictating rather than writing

What makes it not well-written?
(I'm talking about in German not English)

Well I read an English translation but the phrases he uses are really strange. For instance, I believe that the very first sentence is "It was the decree of destiny that afforded I should be born in" and then he talks about where he was born.

Maybe it's the fault of the translators, but the prose feels very stiff

Valuable historical piece given the nature of the work and its unremarkable reception outside of Germany.

As a literary work, about on par with most right wing blog posts and facebook comments.

Oh ok.
I was just asking because I'm looking for some well-known German books to read, but ones that aren't too difficult. When people say Mein Kampf isn't well-written it leads me to believe that I might be able to handle it in German.

I didn't enjoy the writing style, but Hitler was of course a visionary and an extraordinary person.

Makes you wonder what the world would look like if not for the lowest common denominator American cultural hegemony we're subjected to now, to be honest.

You should read what happened to culture in the Third Reich in Evans' Third Reich in Power.

Almost nothing was allowed to be published except state commissioned "Blood and Soil" works, typically action/war genre fiction (no actual examination of the human condition, just brave blondes conquering) and Anglo/Germanic myth. And within a year or two, publishing mattered less about that and more about who you knew. For instance, Junger (whom Hitler and Goebbels both adored) basically wrote a hit-piece in On the Marble Cliffs about a totalitarian takeover of a small rural state, and he got it published because he said it was about Stalin, even though it obviously wasnt.

He wasn't at the head of the state yet when he wrote it
He was actually in jail

Dictating means to say or read aloud to be recorded or written by another

>As an inmate, Hitler wanted for nothing. His wing on the second floor was nicknamed "Feldherrenhügel," or "the general's hill." His confidant Ernst Hanfstaengl later said, after having visited Hitler, that he felt as if he had "walked into a delicatessen. There was fruit and there were flowers, wine and other alcoholic beverages, ham, sausage, cake, boxes of chocolates and much more." Despite having gained a significant amount of weight as a result of his lavish diet, Hitler apparently turned down Hanfstaengl's suggestion that he get some exercise.

It's not comparable to other kinds of jail.

Source: spiegel.de/international/germany/adolf-hitler-s-time-in-jail-flowers-for-the-fuehrer-in-landsberg-prison-a-702159.html

I know about the censorship, but I wonder if giving up the very best would outweigh not having to deal with the very worst and experience general cultural degeneracy and consumerist nihilism and so on.

this is a pretty edgy thread

A lot of Camus books were published under Nazi rule. I'm sure most of the art commissioned by the state was propaganda garbage but don't pretend that national socialism is completely inhospitable to all art

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So many edgy white trash faggots.

>For instance, I believe that the very first sentence is "It was the decree of destiny that afforded I should be born in" and then he talks about where he was born.

Weird translation. The Stalag Edition reads:
>To-day I consider it a good omen that Destiny appointed...

And the Ford Translation:
>Today, I am pleased that Fate chose the city of ...

Both of those are still very stiff opening lines, and it gets' old quite fast

>They evaluate the stylistic merit of a work in translation

It's literally impossible to be more pseud than this

lol

Well I'm not going to learn German for one fucking book am I?

That wasn't the point, was it?

I dont fink you get it do u sunschoine?

Show me on the doll where the white man imperialized you

Nein

roight listen up me matey ife had quoite enuff of yohr takin the mick out of me roight can you stop it you silly cont or ill knock your fokin blinckers in me mate roigh roigh!!

Stop posting.

It's an excerpt from my book that i can't get published (don't know why)

Jeez m8, I was just kidding.

Critiquing a book's prose that was dictated and then translated, most of the time poorly due to political concerns, is embarrassing.

Yes but I specifically said that the translation was bad, and I wasn't sure if the actual book was bad or not

*slides knight into E4*

Check.

Mate.

Hitler dubs confirm.

Just about to finish the first volume. Lots of interesting and certainly truthful statements.Taken all the judensau sections with a grain of salt, but it's fascinating to learn how to came to his ideologies. There is no denying his brilliance and charisma.

> edgy thread
I think the word you are looking for is hilarious not edgy only redditfags say shit is edgy user.

nothing wrong with reddit

you can leave and hang out there from now on.

It is inferior to Veeky Forums but compared to 9gag it is a decent site not gonna lie however when summer is over you gotta go redditfag

camus was published because his censor was a francophile and the chaotic huddle of institutions.

if the system had worked as intended there would have been no publication

Sadly bad written but he still is the Führer and I read every word with great interest. If you cant stand reading it just get the audiobook.

this is completely untrue

There is nothing wrong with Reddit but there IS something wrong with people from Reddit browsing Veeky Forums, and taking the fucking awful ''culture'' from Reddit with them.

If you think Reddit is not so bad, just go to Reddit and stay there.

Gave it a read once out of curiosity and sadly was quite underwhelmed. I didnt end up reading a large portion, but I can safely say, given the political and social context, it still deserves a place on the shelf.

It's not necessarily easy to read. When people say it's not well-written, it's a comment on his excessive use of cliches, hyperbole, etc. as well as a large amount of errors that went uncorrected. To quote the newly released Mein Kampf critical edition: 'Mein Kampf gilt heute gemeinhin als ein verquaster, wirrer, schwer lesbarer Text, dessen brutale und menschenverachtende Botschaften immer wieder mit Passagen kontrastieren, die sprachlich und stilistisch unfreiwillig komisch wirken', and you can verify this just by looking at the opening paragraph to the first chapter ('Als glückliche Bestimmung...') which is at the same time dry and overly pathetic.
I bought Mein Kampf the first time around because I also though it would be a good beginners read and that the language would be slightly easier, but I never got through it and I really needed an annotated critical edition to make it interesting, which I have now.

So you're also a German learner?
Any books you'd recommend?
Right now I'm trying to read Spengler and it's pretty fucking hardcore, don't think I'm ready for it yet.

Also there's no way in hell I'd ever take a published German-language commentary on the rhetorical merits of Mein Kampf without a huge grain of salt.

>Edgy XDDDD.

What I quoted was just the opening line of a section on Hitler's language in Mein Kampf, they elaborate and expand massively on what I posted and are not afraid of giving Hitler credit where it's due, and the book is thoroughly with over 2000 notes, so taking it with a huge grain of salt just because it's published in German would be very, very childish. Though as I said, it's very easy to look for yourself and see that Hitler 'wrote like he spoke' (paraphrased from a Goebbels quote).
As for German learner lit recommendations, I'm on my 7th semester of my German major so I'm at least on an intermediate level, but I think I can still recommend some authors.
Siegfred Lenz is a personal favourite. His style is simple yet slightly romantic and his subjects humorous but usually with a tragic twist, his most famous novel is probably Deutschstunde but I recommend Die Klangprobe, though you can also pick up his short stories.
Stefan Zweig is neat, too, and has a kind of 'pure', easily readable aesthetic to his writing, and I'd recommend his autobiography because it's just so goddamn interesting.
Christian Kracht and Clemens Meyer if you want some contemporaries.

thoroughly researched*
Siegfried*
But you get the idea