What books does your cute, sensitive, artistic girlfriend read Veeky Forums?

i mean details about your awful marriage.

WHAT THE FUCK HAHAHA

It's a copypasta.

I am both relieved and disappointed to hear that

Oscar Wilde

I'm sorry that this is the case, and I understand your worldview as a result. I have met vile women, but I also have met women that are amazing and entirely a different breed than myself, my own mother included. I would not wish it upon you two that you would deprive yourselves of the opportunity to appreciate the woman, this potentially magnificent 'other' that we can never fully comprehend.

As autistic as ur post sounds no offence user but I've the exact same experience and attitude towards womyn as you

Empathy is the opposite as autism--it just sounds strange to hear kind words on this site. Believe you me, if I was having a worse day, I would've freudposted and made fun of both the posts I replied to.

the sea, the sea
and à la recherche du temps perdu

ugh

theres a girl i have been romantically involved with for four years now

when i first met her i thought she was the artsiest thing ever. a real muse.

the more i got to know her, the more psuedo-artistic she became. her honest self, i have learned, is not artistic whatsoever and she probably has the worst taste ever

she steals opinions from internet social media scenes and will without doubt spout the cringiest opinions on something she doesn't know anything about if someone she thinks is attractive or ~cool~ has that opinion

so fucking stupid

She's currently reading Steven King's The Stand
Before that, she read One Hundred Years of Solitude in the original Spanish, and wants my copy of Infinite Jest after I'm done with it.

>theres a girl i have been romantically involved with for four years now
>she will without doubt spout the cringiest opinions on something she doesn't know anything about if someone she thinks is attractive or ~cool~ has that opinion
I guess that tells me something about you.

Go back to /r9k/

Veeky Forums femme here. I just want to comment that I find this kind of post extremely cute.

Found a hyper-cute girl on a dating website last night who runs a small time YouTube channel. More vids I watch the more of a crush I develop. She doesn't seem very Veeky Forums but I don't really care about that.

Not gonna post links, don't want any of you stealing my waifu

lol btfo

iktf
>tfw you will never be someone's muse, someone's Beatrice, someone's Lizzie
kill me now

she reads Pynchon, Crowley, and RAW ... only she isn't real

Nice paintings, DGR was a genius and Morris was very beautiful.

>daily reminder he dug up the poems he buried with lizzie a few years on

Thoughtform or dakimakura?

I can't be bothered dating any more, I've started hiring escorts.

>tfw men are actually incapable of real, lasting love
kill me even more

Well I think she has interesting features, but I'm not sure I'd call her very beautiful.

and what do they read? make sure to ask next time.

...

>tfw poor, not much education (currently due to NEET years - I'm working on it), in debt, weird, pretty unhealthy, history of mental illness (OCD being the main culprit)
I'll never be able to share my life with anyone decent. No matter how attracted to my person, I doubt any civilized adult woman wants to tie herself to someone who probably won't ever reach even middle class. Well, unless I manage to get employed in the academia and do well, but it'll be a bit late then - my mental illness took away ...quite a lot of time.

>kill me even more
christina's the better poet anyway

Would you Veeky Forums?

I did ask one. She mainly reads the sort of magazines aimed at women, about health, homecare and dating, that sort of thing. She claimed to write for them occasionally too. I had her read some erotica and erotic poetry out for me.

>erotic poetry
pls b cummings or ovid

>I had her read some erotica and erotic poetry out for me.
I definitely don't think this is true. Sounds like something writers/artists make up because it sounds poetic.
Real life seems more like she'd be a 30+ meth addict who asks you just to get it over with as quick as possible.

some eastern philosophy and a lot of nonfiction about art history and the like, a lot of nonfiction about dance and music

cummings and Nabokov's Lilith.

noice, try wilde's salome next time.

we need a thread about this

I also like her poetry more than his, although it's very different from his so it's hard to make a comparison. Granted I have only read DGR's poems that are in anthologies, while I've read Christina's complete poetry, so perhaps my opinion does not count for much.

Is that from Waterhouse?

I was paying by the hour so it didn't really make much difference to her if we spent some of it not having sex. She was about 23 and very anti-drug. Pic related is hers. You don't have to believe me.

That's a bit long. Any part in particular?

Dante Rossetti

>you and your bros will never paint pictures so good women still swoon and fan-girl over you almost 150 years later

kissing the decapitated head. it's a bit like cumming's "my love thy hair is one Kingdom" or the song of songs in the bible.

I'll bear it in mind. I tried to avoid the more romantic works of cummings as it would have felt weird. It was sex, not romance.

I made a thread about it on another chan at the time.

Bulgakov

Milan Kundera, Zadie Smith, Mishima (my recommendation, she liked it), and she has a thing for classic English (non-native English speaker) children's lit: Alice In Wonderland, Winnie the Pooh and such. Also unfortunately some feminist crap, but I try to challenge her on its content. We have the most wonderful discussions.

Out of curiosity, are there any other girls lurking right now?

Yeah
I think we're quite a few on Veeky Forums actually, more than on the other big boards.

How much would you charge to read erotica to a guy?

Man I liked: free
Creeper: no realistic sum enough
Genuinely nice but unattractive guy (NOT a r9k "nice guy"): $50/hour no touching.

we used have vocaroo threads years ago. so, nothing?
Veeky Forumss mostly grills and prancing lalahomo men

Why do you hang around this shithole? It would be like Jew going on /pol/ You must have a thick skin.

>implying jews don't run /pol/
nice taste in writers though, hilda>pound even if pound more qt

It's better here than r9k and some girls even go there.

Not a chick, but it's Veeky Forums; there's an expectation that someone is going to attack your 'tribe,' tastes, or something about you, no matter who you are. Some of us just thrive in those conditions.

My ex liked Jane Eyre

>Veeky Forums
>misogynistic
I've spent years on /r9k/, this is practically a feminist support group book-circle in comparison.
Just can't get off Veeky Forums, it's an addiction. Same reason any other male anons come here I support.

makes a good point too.

I know a girl who was in the middle of Lolita, last I checked.

how do I make conversation with a quiet boy who never talks to anybody and spends his lunch hour reading by himself?

thank you for any advice you can give

This, Veeky Forums actually has people who'd be considered monstrous SJW:s on the more, uh, "geeky" boards. Same goes for like /p/, maybe /mu/ though I haven't browsed /mu/ in ages. The video game, anime, technology and miscellaneous boards are the shitholes, and of course /pol/.

Probably just say hi and ask what he's reading maybe
Does he have good taste

>boy
stop going after boys
go for men

if "boys" are your age: leave this site

Might be bad if he is particularly shy or bad with sudden interaction or something. But what the heck else to do if you've got no other situations in which reach out to him? Yep, just do it.

"Boys" are like, most people under 25 in certain social settings.

>gf who consumes manga or anime
Holy shit I'm sorry

I dont feel at home at goodreads. There's some kind of desperate honesty in Veeky Forums I like very much.

I can't say hi since I only see him in the office where he works but there's no reason to go talk to him.

once I asked him to help me find some paper for the printer but he just helped me and sat back down. when we pass in the hallway he looks at me with this really intense expression but neither of us says anything except 'thanks' sometimes. i don't know if he's been bullied in the past, if his girlfriend split up with him, or what? it's frustrating because he's really cute and exactly my type but it's like there's this coldness about him that i find really intimidating.

Say "hi", ask him what he's reading.
Most importantly, drive the conversation. You're catching him off-guard and he's obviously introverted and not going to just jump right into a game of conversation ping-pong. Have at least a general idea of where to take the conversation after asking about his book

Say "Hi I think you're cute but I'm not sure how to start a conversation with you. Let's talk about books".

>tfw you've been on Veeky Forums for so long, and have been socially isolated for equally long, that you don't even know what's appropriate irl anymore

how do i get off this ride? i don't want to be the person greentexting on FB

You and a million others, don't worry it's common phenomena and if you stay isolated you won't have to worry about this happening in the first place

nah, other boards only think we're sjw because they don't read what we recommend them.

Veeky Forums doesn't hate or like either gender or side of the political spectrum; it thinks most humans are shit.
e.g. every "schopenhauer on women redpilled me" thread from /pol/ gets met with "you mean the one where schopenhauer says all the achievements of men are vanity which women rightly laugh at?". it's not because we like women, it's because men need to know they're shit too. we're not going to hugbox the men while shitting a stream as prolific as her writing down JCO's throat. that might fool idiots into thinking they're more worthwhile than her, when we spend far more time trolling her twitter.

>once I asked him to help me find some paper for the printer but he just helped me and sat back down. when we pass in the hallway he looks at me with this really intense expression but neither of us says anything except 'thanks' sometimes. i don't know if he's been bullied in the past, if his girlfriend split up with him, or what? it's frustrating because he's really cute and exactly my type but it's like there's this coldness about him that i find really intimidating
You are literally describing me and , presumably, my ""type"". Girls have gotten to know me and after we've become friends told me I'm that way.

If he's anything like me there is a huge distance between him an everyone else. Not a wall, just an empty space. He might not be very empathetic, he doesn't ""need"" to socialize or isn't interested in what people have to offer.
It takes time to cross that distance, but there might not be an emotional wall for you to deal with, and if he is like me, he might be open to the idea of dating you because why not.

What you should do is talk to him. Don't even have a reason, just talk to him. Make a habit of it. Push the friendship onto him a little bit. It will be difficult to tell if he likes you, but easy to tell if he doesn't. Then one day you'll see that you've progressed across his distance from people because he'll do something seemingly out of character around you

give him cocteau's les enfants terribles. he'll get the picture.

>side of the political spectrum
It' pretty obvious, when Veeky Forums's getting serious and we look aside from /pol/ intruders, that Veeky Forums leans left

like anyone who actually reads does

kek no, half at minimum like plato or the stoics too much for us to be left not murderous elitist faggots. we're just left when it comes to printing pornography or torture manuals

>kek no, half at minimum like plato or the stoics too much for us to be left not murderous elitist faggots.
Are you drunk writing this?

Are you dissing symposia or just ignorant of the Greeks?

Man I'm just trying to figure out that sentence at all.

This, you can even sometimes get discussions of feminist theory here.

Though there surely are not-so-political people and some right-wingers here as well.

>half at minimum like plato or the stoics too much for us to be left not murderous elitist faggots
Plato is pretty left-wing tho, he literally argues against private property. He can be seen as a totalitarian or something, but definitely a left-wing one. Left =/= american liberals.

it took me a while but I think he is like, trying to say that Veeky Forums likes plato or the stoics too much to be leftist instead of murderous elitist faggots

>you can even sometimes get discussions of feminist theory here.
And I love it when we do. The Second sex should be obligatory Veeky Forums philosophy starter package. Disagree, agree, w/e - it's phenomenally well-written.

>left wing supports kings
okay, I know that robespierre could be seen as a philosopher king, but i don't think it's what the leftists were actually aiming for with the revolution.
>american liberals
of course not, it refers to actual liberals. things like freedom of speech are leftist ideals, even though in america that can make you sound like a republican or whatever.
plato's argument against private property is because he's arguing everything is state property, and administered by the elite is for the best of their lessers. it's where the roman fasicsts and stoics got the ideal of state duty from. left is antihierarchy, even though nietzsche obviously btfo of any argument that hierarchy knows left or right since it's blind to everything but power and plato is prohierachy and order and looking for a masterrace.
try gorgias

>Heideggerian french
>well written
The Second Sex is great for blowing out feminists though because it says some great shit about women that makes feminists very uncomfortable. Just you'll have to trim down the Heidegger terminology for them. =/

>it says some great shit about women that makes feminists very uncomfortable
Oh yeah, and what would that be?

passivity is learned behaviour (you learnt to not say "no"); women shouldn't be allowed to be just a womb because too many would choose it (get a job and stop having kids like a welfare mother); there is no essential femininity, it's bullshit you made up and women are more prone to learning self serving bullshit in her learned experience.
course, she also didn't want to be associated with feminists at the time.

>passivity is learned behaviour (you learnt to not say "no"); women shouldn't be allowed to be just a womb because too many would choose it (get a job and stop having kids like a welfare mother);
This sounds exactly like feminism, rather. (However you might get your idea about feminism from american teenage girls personal tumblr pages like most 4channers)
Third thing I don't understand what you mean.

when she says you learnt to not say no, the implication is that it's your fault for learning dumb shit. so when you have the "some women freeze up and can't say no in the moment" view of rape, beauvoir says "well, i guess you should have worn clothes that were harder to get off and taken taekwondo if you didn't want to be raped". most feminists don't say that.
>stop having kids like a welfare mother
>welfare mother
read as "wife" or any women who takes time off from a job because she has kids, or works less hours after having kids. if a woman doesn't transcend her children to be productive, she's choosing to subjugate herself and other women helping her wouldn't help her transcend anyway.
she doesn't believe in women helping other women because they're subjugated because they choose to be that way: they prefer the easy ride of no power and no transcendence. they're basically lower than hikkis as a broad gender in her view.

>the implication is that it's your fault
That's really not the implication at all.

Well, I view "leftism" as less of a whole package, a more loose set of criteria that don't all have to be met. Stalinism is leftism, but so are many forms of anarchism. I'm using a 20th century way of understanding it, so being against or for capitalism or market economy is important in which one I'll classify you.

But eh I'll recognize that Plato is a bit of a hard one to classify, especially since back in his day, things were different (maybe I'm being silly by going around calling Plato an anti-capitalist). I'd still go with something like authoritarian left.

well, if you view greed as a bad thing and the source of your immanence, like beauvoir does, it doesn't really matter that "men wrote history", the implication is you chose passivity because you thought it paid off, and when it doesn't, you greedily demand more, like men to not respond to the contrived history you have chosen as they always have in the narrative you have chosen.

see also: her views on feminine mystique from makeup though more feminists agree with that conclusion.

Patrick Leigh Fermor, Proust, Woolf, Robert Walser, Han Shan and Saigyo are her favorite authors.

She's reading A Ballad For George Henig by Victor Paskow right now.

Stalin is about as leftist as Hitler. Most everyone uses it as an idiosyncratic term, but it's a bit rich calling me out for using the classic meaning when you're using your own idiosyncratic version as though I meant "US leftist". US leftists are probably about as left as Hitler too.

Plato is pretty right wing for his day, but the reasons for it are generally problems with democracy at the time. While he doesn't want private property, in Athens that wasn't shocking at all, and his views on it are pretty mainstream in classical democracy. Athens didn't always live up to that ideal, but it's why they have so many public works conserved because they threw all their money at buildings and public statues and plays to show status since they couldn't wear fancy clothes. But, the idea of a ruling elite was very different, and attacking a problem in Athenian democracy at the time: every citizen not only could, but had to, vote. The modern equivalent of that is Australia, so you can see how it was a bad idea to ask for everyone's opinion. Plato writes a lot against rhetoric because it's a problem when everyone votes because they vote for dumb shit which a liar told them would have no consequences and believe him when he says he's not taking bribes.

You simply fabricated this list to make me envious. I'm not stupid.

>Proust, Woolf,
dude she's gonna rape you and leave you