Yfw the materialist critique of Hegel is already realized in the preface of the Phenomenology

>yfw the materialist critique of Hegel is already realized in the preface of the Phenomenology

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what the fuck is up with hegelians, nobody cares and hegel is boring, hegel could be erased from history and nothing would change at all.
>hegel laid groundwork for marx tho
fuck off kill yourself

your hegelian m8

have you tried reading him? or are you a wikipedia scholar who thinks "obscure" is a criticism?

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Plato was born of a virgin, after Apollo had appeared to his reputed father in a dream, according to a story which was widely current soon after Plato's death and possibly even before it.6 And since he was a lifelong enthusiast for creating popular beliefs which he knew to be false, and beliefs, at that, with rather less to recommend them to him than this one had, who can say with confidence that Plato himself did not encourage belief in this stupid story? Plato - that scourge of the human mind, whom we have to thank for persuading philosophers for 2400 years, and more years to come, that it is a problem, how something can be a certain way and something else be the same way! Then, entrust yourself to Augustine's mighty intellect, and you too must agonize, as he does, over the 'problem', for example, whether Jesus is still bleeding from hands and feet? Or has he lost by now all trace of the scars of the crucifixion? Or, does he retain some scars but only faint and not-unattractive ones? It is this third alternative, Augustine concludes, which will recommend itself to every rational mind.7 Auguste Comte simply appointed himself Supreme Pontiff of his new, but final and worldwide religion, the Religion of Humanity. George Hegel thought that his thought not merely discloses, but is, the final coming-to-consciousness of the Absolute Thought. Marx, too, saw himself as the prophet and architect of a fundamental transformation of the entire human race, and ... But no! Let us, for pity's sake, as well as for horror's sake, draw a veil... But let us never forget, either, as all conventional history of philosophy conspires to make us forget, what the 'great thinkers' really are: proper objects, indeed, of pity, but even more, of horror.

>hegel could be erased from history and nothing would change at all.


Has a statement as objectively false as this ever been uttered on Veeky Forums before

Hegel is literally the end of history.

What does this mean

some shit hegelians like to say based on some retarded definition of history

> deluded Marxists and Hegelians will NEVER accept their philosophy is wrong

Hegel said whatever happens at the end of history will be Hegelian. Whatever 'Hegelian' means is deliberately obscure and can be interpreted for literally anything.

And when the prophecies turn out wrong, you can just say it's being delayed but not wrong.

It's a delusional cult.

>"law" of non-contradiction

can't even into dialectics. not worth reading past the first line, though I did, and found this reactionary and resentful.

absolutely wikipedian. Hegel doesn't deal in right/wrong, he deals with Truth, which has nothing to do with whatever you're blabbering on about history.

>A Marxist tries to divorce himself from Hegel

Honestly, it's the Hegelians who should be trying to divorce themselves from Marxists.

Fucking embarrassing offspring that they are.

>Tfw people still follow the wrong heir to Kant

>following in Kant at all

David Hume detected.

schopenhauer never wrote a word of philosophy, only pages and pages of curmudgeonly "refutations" whose negativity derived merely from the masturbation of the self, without any attention to its content as thought.

>schopenhauer never wrote a word of philosophy

read him and see for yourself

>Implying I haven't read both volumes of Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung

he actually fucking didn't. all the philsophy he did was re-writing some eastern bullshit. also his ""refutation"" of hegel is *literally* no more than name-calling

Hegel wrote nothing of substance. Ergo, he does not require a substantial response.

>Hegel doesn't deal in right/wrong

he says history is right vs right

any society can be interpreted as THE hegelian absolute

"History will culminate in me saying history culminates in me."

whew

Hegel is for lazy philosophy students who want the comfort of being able to say this one guy has ALL the answers even if the answers are constantly changing, he knew they would.

Hegel is basically a re-writing of Hinduism but he throws in his Christianity and his Prussian state.

>wikipedia scholarship

just because a certain dialectical progression consists entirely of necessary moments on the way toward its realization of the absolute, does not mean that every dialectic must necessarily follow those particular steps.

>tfw I showed this thread to my Hegel scholar friend

He said to stay off "internet chat groups" because conversation like this is all they ever achieve

>He said to stay off "internet chat groups" because conversations like this make a justified joke of his favourite obscurantist

Fixed this for you.

>He said to stay off "internet chat groups"
What fucking n00b.

>>wikipedia scholarship

not an argument

>not an argument
Not an argument.

neither is falsely attributing ideas you don't understand to thinkers you understand even less.

today, hegelians got BTFO, and all they could say through their tears in return was "w-w-wikipedia scholars"