I'm scared Veeky Forums, dark times are approaching. Of the millennial generation, few among us read, few among us know the Classics, and few among us are engaged in a life long pursuit of ever greater knowledge.
Is intellectualism on the brink of death?
Brayden Bell
Good riddance desu
Dominic Young
>Is intellectualism on the brink of death? No. You just keep comparing the giants of the past 4000 years to a bunch of friends on twitter and dime-store novelists.
Lucas White
Literacy and average education is at an all time high
Ian Hill
OPs qualifiers have been the standard for the past 20-30 years (being generous). Nothing will really change.
Brandon Wright
>intellectual = can namedrop a few classics lol
Andrew Hall
poor bait
Parker Parker
people never were interested in boring shit like the classics protip: it never was any better and its never going to get any better
Samuel Hill
>A pernicious excitement to learn and play chess has spread all over the country, and numerous clubs for practicing this game have been formed in cities and villages...chess is a mere amusement of a very inferior character, which robs the mind of valuable time that might be devoted to nobler acquirements, while it affords no benefit whatever to the body. >Chess has acquired a high reputation as being a means to discipline the mind, but persons engaged in sedentary occupations should never practice this cheerless game; they require out-door exercises--not this sort of mental gladiatorship. >Scientific American, July 1859
Christopher Kelly
People are smarter than they ever were at any time in history. Millenials are the smartest generation. We're living in what is called the INFORMATION age.
Nicholas Jones
Yes while the intellectual class is dead.
Society as a whole is improving, but culture and art aren't.
Charles Reyes
Not at all, it's always been a minority of people who are into this sort of thing.
The bigger danger is the distractibility engendered by spending so much time reading on screens and surfing the internet. A lot of smart people are poisoned by their own curiosity, becoming wiki-dilletantes because they can't focus.
The Classics have been dead for two hundred years because Latin and Greek are dead. In Erasmus' day, you learned to speak and compose the learned languages. Now, even the tiny minority who choose to pursue this noble study, never truly learn the languages. How can you say you know a language when you can't speak it, and can read it only with a dictionary at your elbow?
Nil moror. Nihil scire felicissima vita. Primus postator cinaedus etc.
Carson Rodriguez
pure ideology
Jason Flores
We're just in the time where post-modernism is dying but the new thing hasn't showed up yet. It's the mid-18th century all over again.
Jonathan Rivera
Science and technology are the main interests of societies intelligentsia. Which is why people like op exist, aside from being misinformed, literature and the arts aren't as big as they once were.
Sebastian Flores
>Of the millennial generation, few among us read No reads more than this generation does, they just don't read for personal betterment. Why? Because it must first be argued to the bosses that knowing the classics is beneficial.
Juan Moore
fascinating
Brody Gonzalez
I'd say the ideal of the modern intellectual is exactly the ideal of the ancient intellectual- studying all fields as much as one can through observation and listening to many opinions, before proceeding to expound wild theories about fields of knowledge one is not qualified to approach. That sort of intellectual I can mark myself as.
Ayden Ramirez
I'd say the essence of being a wise man is a generous and open-minded spirit. You should know how little you know, you should grasp the futility of human ratiocination, but not so as to fall into a nervous paresis. Your ignorance should make you like an innocent child.
Socrates was the best.
And that is who I strive to be, and I know people of my generation who are the same. I don't think things are worse now than they ever have been. But every generation faces its own particular challenges, and ours is the distraction of "technologies".
Sebastian Scott
>ours is the distraction of "technologies"
I, for one, await the perfect VR technology where I can be with my literary waifu.
Bentley Gonzalez
t. women and gender studies major
Asher Bell
It's true though. Look at all those stories about a modern highschooler getting transported into fantasy medieval ages. They immediately impress the locals with their knowledge.
Dylan Powell
intellectualism is on the decline to make way for critical thinking
what this guy said intellectualism is just wrote memorization and just parroting the views of your most recently read author.
Dylan Sanchez
Lol you can't actually think this. This is being called the post-truth age mate
Brandon Perry
Goddamn, yes we are getting smarter as a whole, but that's only through untapped potential. Instead of having a bunch of serfs we have a literate working class peoples. So yes, the average intelligence/education is definitely increasing. But what happens when we have educated every individual? Well we reached that point long ago, and we have begun to regress in terms of peak education. It is practically unheard of to learn philosophy in high school anymore, at least in any rigour and as a mandatory part of the curriculum. This has been replaced in favour of reading what, a Vonnegut novel? Furthermore nobody really learns languages anymore, which I think is extremely necessary in order to be an intellectual. Hell, you don't even need Latin or Greek but a cultured man should strive to be fluent in at least a few languages. Pick up German or French, something that will have applications both in the real world but also for literature and philosophy.
Aiden Hernandez
>tfw intellectual will finally be treated like the gross mercantilist-manufactured word-ghost it is and finally be stamped out of the language like Tzar Nicholas the Second intended
Owen Long
spotted the engineering major
Brandon Russell
What the fuck, you're kidding right? Critical thinking? You're funny brah. We're going from people parroting people intelligent enough to be published in print to people parroting in an echo chamber all the boneheaded bullshit tweeted out in the last fifteen seconds. Say your prayers.
Levi Wilson
>intellectualism is just wrote memorization and just parroting the views of your most recently read author. Speak for yourself, pseud
>people often don't agree with my opinions; therefore, people are dumb and don't care about the truth
Lincoln Scott
>Intellectualism Is just wrote memorization >wrote
Lmao
Thomas Brown
>calling me a pseud >doesn't even uphold an intellectual's moral guidelines
Brandon Parker
>OP realizes there are less 'intellectuals' than commoners
Tyler Smith
>tfw in this age, both commoners and the elites are fucking stupid
"I MISS BEING A 19TH CENTURY GENTLEMAN"—every snob faggot
"BACK IN THE DAY WHEN EULER WAS WRITING HIS THEOREMS"—senile academic
"MAN DA VINCI WAS DA BOMB"—anti-intellectual impossibly-nostalgic humanist
"START WITH THE GREEKS"—doesn't know greek
John Adams
This. I earned a doctorate, expecting some high-tier reasoning and cultural exchange. More than half the profs didn't even bother to venture outside of territory ruled by simplistic mockery when they weren't shutting down discussions when someone was getting offended because they were getting BTFO.
Plus the system of accountability in the uni bureaucracy sucks.
Justin Walker
*tips trilby*
Joseph Sanders
I once watched part of a C-SPAN program with a female intellectual whose name I forget. I think she may have been living in or near the DC area, but maybe wasn't a politican as-such. Some sort of an intellectual. She had this cute/small living space with hallways lined with books so that you could barely walk through them, but very organized.
She made an observation which I've seen repeated among academic types, when questioned in a doom-and-gloom fashion along the OP's lines. "People don't read the classics, no one knows Latin, etc, etc. Is there any hope?"
Her reply was that the population which is learned and/or properly trained in such topics has always been a small minority. But whereas it was only several hundred or several thousand people an age ago, it is today many tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of people who are at least conversant in classical, esoteric topic X. Her point being that even if it is true that the percentage of people so educated is static or lower, it is still also true that the absolute number of people so educated is orders of magnitude larger. In other words, the capacity of living individuals who know classical topic X has increased, well, dramatically, in any event. And in every generation, there are a crop of people who are naturally inclined toward whatever variant you cherish most: literature, scholarship, that type of thing. And these people have blogs and regularly, routinely disseminate their viewpoints for a larger audience to digest.
In still other words, there is legitimate cause to be hopeful, if you are concerned about "culture", whatever you may exactly mean by that. We've weathered plagues and wars before, and certain information survived extant.
Angel James
Are you sure you just aren't worried you won't receive that research grant to study Marxist influences in Joss Whedon's Buffy?
Blake Gray
nigga LOOK AT HIS PANTS
Evan Perez
It's like the French Revolution era all over again.
Wyatt Hughes
If intellectualism would take leftism with it to the grave, I'm okay with it.
Austin Brooks
>19th century get a load of this pleb
Robert Murphy
Intellectuals were always a minority, don't know why you're acting like this is something new.
Alexander Lee
Without leftism, this world will fall into war once more, user.
Noah Gutierrez
You confused leftism with nuclear weapons, which are the only reason we haven't got WW3 yet and aren't going to. On the contrary, leftism decreases the overall stability of both the countries it takes its roots in and the countries the former interact with: all because it operates on a few ideological premises that are either directly or indirectly false.
Chase Adams
>all because it operates on a few ideological premises that are either directly or indirectly false
Oh yeah, wanting the world to work together instead of going all nationalist like the old days is always wrong.
Isaac Anderson
>american >intellectual the very definition of a contradiction in terms
Noah Brown
Thanks for the example: the premise that the world as it is now can work together efficiently is very questionable.
Another one would be is that democratic form of governance is functioning and superior for any society. Which, as the Middle East example teaches us, is wrong.
Gavin Gutierrez
>Another one would be is that democratic form of governance is functioning and superior for any society
That's a leftist thought though. The right wants the monarchy back.
Levi Martinez
I am talking about the leftists' premises indeed, and how they often bring war instead of peace.
Jordan Green
>life long pursuit of ever greater knowledge What exactly is the purpose of this and how it is different to "life long pursuit of Facebook likes"?
Daniel Watson
I'll have you know I do know Greek.
Kek'd hard at this though.
Ethan Nelson
>people are smarter nowadays
Justin White
Yeah, the democracy worshippers forget Hitler was voted democratically. German people were angry fucks back then.
And now look at Trump.
Owen Butler
You're a fucking idiot.
Zachary Scott
To be completely honest, I'm not sure which presidential candidate personifies the flaws of democracy better. But this electoral cycle will surely go down in history.
Ryder Powell
Yeah, America is fucked.
I used to think my country's president choices were shitty. Now, they don't seem too bad compared to those two.