Tfw I easily taught myself tensor analysis, differential equations, organic chemistry, analysis, complex analysis...

Oh look, a high school dropout trying to convince everyone he isn't a brainlet

If you weren't a brainlet, you wouldn't have dropped out. End of story. You would have tutored for money and would have gone to the school counselor or your favorite teacher for emotional support. Or have done some other reasonable thing beside dropping out like an idiot.

>he thinks too intelligent for education
Bitch if you are as intelligent as you seem to think you are you should get pretty much as close to 100% as possible in everything. From then on its easy to move up.

Hindsight is 20/20, comrade.

I had undiagnosed ADD until I was 24; once I was on Adderall and could actually focus/concentrate I enrolled in community college.

4.0 GPA, PTK, tons of scholarships and Accounting major/math minor.

All roads lead to Rome, right?

Some are easier to trek than others.

pretty easy for you to say

never said that, I just hate the hoops I have to jump through that serve no purpose whatsoever

>taught myself the power rule
>too good for calc

lmao git gud brainlets

Are you me

>nobody can possibly learn something if they didn't have an upper middle class AP class -> us news top 25 university like me, it's literally impossible!!!

sadly most people agree with you and I have to waste tons of time on bullshit I already know for no reason

Graduating college isn't all about how smart a person is. A person with a college degree had to meet a lot of deadlines, had to work with numerous groups of people, and in the case of most science degrees had to work in labs and do independent research or internships. A college degree doesn't solely stand to represent a person's intelligence by any means.

>undiagnosed ADD until I was 24
do you have assburgers and identify as genderfluid as well? you fucking faggot.

Another thing is laziness. I think a lack of intelligence and laziness go hand in hand in some ways. Maybe a person can comprehend topics in math or science but a lazy person won't be able to put in the work or might not have the critical thinking ability it takes to apply those concepts effectively.

this is a good opportunity in disguise OP.

ignore the jaded brainlets who have already let their future pass them by. their only goal here is to turn others into themselves so they can feel better about doing nothing to improve themselves.

what you should do is absolutely DESTROY these courses, get 90%+ in every course, and maybe do some volunteer shit, and get to know these professors.

if you do this after 1-2 years of college you will get to transfer to a university that would have required 100x more effort tryiing from highschool.

while you're taking these easy courses, you should hone your math skills in prep for university. get solid algebra, linear, calculus, DE skills and so on so you can obliterate your first year uni courses and get on the deans list. if you're interested in chemistry, get the textbook: "chemistry, the central science." it's a good introductory textbook for first year, and will be more useful than advanced chemistry courses like organic chem for getting a high grade.

good luck i hope you can come to see this as an opportunity to raise your education even further :D

>I am not at all a brainlet lol. I just had terrible life circumstances.
brainlet confirmed

>taught myself tensor analysis

why would you teach yourself something so weird and niche, you didn't list GR or continuum mechanics, so why bother with tensor analysis?

that's just some random shit he googled

>I'm not a brainlet
>Looks at this disjoint list of topics I totally studied

>smart but lazy
>/pol/ posting
>I'm too smart for school because I taught myself all the stuff already
>I am super smart but I have ADD and totally need stimulants to reach my full potential

is this a bait thread?

If you already know it so well then you've got two years to study other things while getting free 4.0s with scholarships and acceptance wherever you want to go.

I know for a fact you will be able to do that because you're so smart so go do it!

For some reason I really don't think you're as smart as you think you are.

You should be grateful they even gave you a chance. I had similar circumstances (dropped out of high-school but returned to university later) but I don't bitch about having to take required courses and I don't pretend to know things I don't by virtue of "self-teaching"

If you really knew those subjects, you would find a way to test out of the basic classes.

Do you know how you want to apply those random topics? What degree are you pursuing and what would you do if you could get it tomorrow?

stop bitching, fag

you assume he's wrong which makes your opinion personal. Instead of tackling troll this way, why don't just go along with it?

>Why is it in germany they just take a test and can get in anywhere? Here in america there's all these stupid extra-curriculars and whatever.
Quite simple really. Skipping classes in a country like Germany means saving the state money. Skipping them in America means costing the state money.

Because a college graduate knows more than that.

Well I've selfstudied universal algebra, multivariate statistics, knitting, astronomy and the unicycle. So who's the smart one now fag.

So you litterally have a learning disability. Which literally makes you a brainlet, and us the definition ofk a dumb person.You, unlike those of us with actual intelligence need drugs to learn. You will never be on our level without your handicapped drug usage. You are the very example of a brainlet. You are naturally dumb.

You can literally take tests for credits you fucking moron. This can be done either through the school or the many boards who administer these types of things. Keep whining faggot.

You know less than you think you know.

You know what sucks? People who are failures. But you know what sucks even more? People who desperately try to make their failures someone else's fault. No, you are not some overlooked super genius that just needs more attention, and no, you thinking so does not make the shitty situation you are in any better. Just deal with it and make the best from it, just like everyone else.

Hello guys, 8th grader here. I've selfstudied the Mochizuki's Inter-universal Teichmuller theory and I am currently rewriting it using the Penrod notation. Will that get me laid in college? Discuss.

what the fuck is a brainlet aylmao

I've never used this board in my life

>I am not at all a brainlet lol
Only brainlets say this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Be like socrates and admit you don't know as much as you thing you know

I never said I was smart. I simply lamented having to go through all these hoops and how the system for undergraduate admissions isn't about what you know at all.

And I tested out of calc 1 and 2 easily but I literally had to beg the math department at my cc for months to let me take a proctored test with a professor and they wouldn't even give me the time of day. You can't take AP tests when you're past highschool age and clep only got you out of business calc. Then at the university I have to transfer to I have to take an 'intro analysis' course and analysis is only offered during specific semesters. It will delay my graduation another year if not another two and taking grad level math is out of the question.

Don't you think that's unfair? The point of a university is to learn. But all these silly pre-reqs and whatnot basically are cockblocking me for no reason.

I'm not really as interested in physics as math. I'm not great at tensor analysis admittedly but manifolds changing over time was just really interesting to me. I've learned these things because math is kind of a hobby for me now.

I'm not really interested in applications as much as theory. I don't want to be an engineer. But yeah I can do the problems and understand the material, yes.

Well I'm just being objective, there's no way I can be DUMB. Not smart, yeah, I can buy that. But dumb like the people riding the fat carts at walmart and drooling, no.

This thread is full of a lot of assumptions. I just want to take grad level algebra and analysis (because it's interesting) without spending 10 million more fucking years in college going through the stupid system. I'll already be 24 when I get my bachelors. I'll be 26 and I really wanted to go to college and turn my life around to learn pure math. Not do the basic undergrad retard analysis class where people do epsilon-delta and induction proofs in my senior year for fucks' sake. I wanted to learn about hilbert spaces and measure theory.

People say there's a way to 'test out', there really fucking isn't past like calc 2. I had a really dysfunctional home and a shitty highschool. There was no way to take higher math unless I wanted it to be a fight.

Not an excuse. I grew up very poor and ina dysfunctional family as well, I used my intelligence to earn a scholarship and prestigious university placing's, of which I used to do anything I wanted.

>affirming the consequent
Brainlet detected

Meme-tier opinion

This.

>This is why we need capitalism. People only care about money and so are forced to shed their human prejudices and irrationality
This is a cute idea, but cognitive biases are very much alive and well in all walks of life (cf the 48 laws of power.) Capitalism enables this at least as much as it challenges it.
Few realize them, fewer struggle against them, fewer still overcome them in any meaningful sense.
>The education system is designed to exclude socially or politically undesirable people, merit is a secondary concern
This is certainly true, though, and actually furthers my point.

>Why is it in germany they just take a test and can get in anywhere? Here in america there's all these stupid extra-curriculars and whatever. If it was just on knowledge I would not have to deal with this contrived bs.
>The university system is completely retarded. How can you defend this.
Protip: you can't. At least not without spouting misdirecting and inane platitudes about a "well-rounded" student/student body, "vibrant, diverse community," "holistic admissions" etc.
Entrance exams are really the only justifiable option. Kids should never be at the mercy of some malevolent teacher (usually humanities) who can cause permanent damage to their future and with no oversight/accountability by giving a lower grade than they earned. They should never have to compete with underperformers who got inflated sympathy grades from a weak-willed or irresponsible teacher, and should never have to emotionally support a dumbass minority friend who thusly got into the same mid-tier school and came apart like wet tissue paper because IT'S JUST TOO HARD, MAN
It's a serious emperor's new clothes situation. Everybody can see that it's broken, but if you voice these concerns you immediately set yourself against "education" and "educated society." It's self-defeating.

Also quite strange it's the more ostensibly "socialist" nations that use purely meritocratic entrance exams.

Finally someone not saying 'brainlet'. The system is definitely broken.

You know, they used to have entrance exams, but the ivy league started the 'holistic admissions' garbage so they could keep the ensconced WASP legacy dynasties there instead of having to admit the 'undesirables' like the italians, jews, asians, and irish that knew the material and could get in on knowledge alone.

There is no fucking reason playing sports, playing cello, or going on a trip to brazil with daddy's money to pretend to help poor people while browsing your phone are criteria for getting into universities. No reason for trudging through the drudgery of all the general education either.

I just was asking why I had to spend years jumping through artificially constructed hoops and everyone started yelling memes.

>or going on a trip to brazil with daddy's money to pretend to help poor people while browsing your phone are criteria for getting into universities
How hilarious, considering that here you have to take entrance exams to get in and you can test out of courses.

yeah you can't do that in america

But tensor analysis is an engineering discipline specifically. Pure mathematicians sneer at the very definition of "tensor analysis". The modern approach to tensors in pure math is quite different. You never mentioned linear algebra in your list, and the "proper" abstract/generalized approach to tensors would require some really advanced linear algebra, vector spaces, dual spaces etc etc. It is very hard to visualize and study on your own.

Of course you are not dumb. You may be smart. It is just if you truly learned all that stuff on your own you are not just smart you are a fucking prodigy. But your list looks strange as it lacks a systematic approach.

He probably used the Dover book by Bishop and Goldberg

Change happens either from within or from above. Anyone trying to change anything or make demands from the outside would just look like a bitter reject or outcast from the inside and likely from many "third parties" points of view too. So that is probably not a fruitful approach.

Instead nurture humor and mock their academic self-proclaimed importance (whenever they show it). That way people will probably like you more and maybe even start to listen to you. Some of the best comedians might well have started out that way.

Many man-made systems simply don't deserve to get any better. They deserve the behaviors they nurture. People starting to dodge and feign and lie or simply stop doing their best when they realize how things work..

Tensors are not weird or niche. They can be used in almost every branch of physics and engineering I can think of. Of course if you don't understand them you would think they are strange, but that's because you don't know what they're good for (yet).

Man stop just because others are not are not as "smart" as you. That dosent let you talk down to others. Also your probably some special education. Kid thinks hes is edgy for using Veeky Forums. So stop man me having ADD and OCD and a plethora of others learning disabilities. I don't need drugs to function and I am easily as smart as any other person. So stop talking down on others and learn.

You need to be careful there. There are multiple completely different approaches to tensors, dealing with different levels of abstraction. In physics and engineering, it is a just a matrix, a set of numbers that transforms according to certain rules. Rank 2 tensors specifically.

>while you're taking these easy courses, you should hone your math skills in prep for university. get solid algebra, linear, calculus, DE skills and so on so you can obliterate your first year uni courses and get on the deans list. if you're interested in chemistry, get the textbook: "chemistry, the central science." it's a good introductory textbook for first year, and will be more useful than advanced chemistry courses like organic chem for getting a high grade.

> chemistry: the central science

Organic Chem major here, don't listen to this retard. CCC covers the level of knowledge and exertion required by you for first year, at maximum. It also approaches topics in a way directed at first years - it focuses on giving you the minimum knowledge required to succeed in the exams, it doesn't focus on layering up your knowledge and thus providing you the ability to derive and infer large amounts of information on your own, based on applying heuristics to the level you've already advanced to.

If you are serious about Chemistry and have a lot of spare time, get Atkins or Engels & Reid, or equivalent Physical Chemistry books (not huge variations in the phychem books), and for Organic Chemistry, get Claydens - it is the bible, and has one of the best approaches to cumulative knowledge of any textbook I have read. Also, get a short book on symmetry operations and group theory. A book on inorganic chemistry, you don't need, as most of it is pretty easy and crystal field theory and stuff will be covered well in lectures after first year.

If you are only learning for first year instead of building a broad, integrated base of knowledge, you will ace your exams then but suffer as the difficulty curve steepens after.

Also, take adderall so you read and work in 4 or 5 hours stretches and longer. Or make your own amphetamine capsules if you live in a country other than the US that doesn't hand out drugs like candy (my situation).

There should be Credit By Exam for at least some of your classes.

If you can't recognize the purpose of the "hoops" you're referring to then you're genuinely nowhere near as smart as you seem to think you are.

You have plenty of tensors in physics and engineering which have higher order than 2. For example (according to wikipedia) viscosity tensors in continuum mechanics are of order 4.

I can claim to be a brain surgeon on here and none of you can disprove it but that does not actually make me a brain surgeon.

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>litterally
>ofk
>calling anyone dumb
you sound like a teenage girl, a dumb one at that.

>>>/tumblr/

So say I dropped my amygdala. It just fell out of my nose by accident or got nuked by gases when I was an infant or something... How would you plan the surgery to reconstruct it or put it back in place?

lol, recently a faggot on /b/ posted a photo of some Adderall pills he found somewhere. Have you ever lost your medicine?

>This why we need capitalism.

What? You realise that the problem being discussed in this thread has been created by the fact that education is seen as a commodity, right?
Capitalism means rich kids go to uni, because they are the ones that can afford it.

good shit

>YOU MUST BE LYING EVERYONE KNOWS YOU CAN ONLY LEARN THINGS IN PRESTIGIOUS COLLEGES IT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TEACH YOURSELF ANYTHING

yeah 3 years of undergrad math, so hard

you fucking idiot if you're as smart as you say you are then apply your knowledge to some cool project to prove that A) you know this stuff and B) you are worthy of admission and you'll get into a good school

besides, if you're going into the sciences then your BS means jack shit and nobody gives a fuck where you went to undergrad. grad admissions officers will want to see your RESEARCH EXPERIENCE AND LETTERS OF REC which given that you're such a damn genius with 4 years you should have NO problem excelling in and getting into a top university, you fucking idiot

you have a point, but a lot of practical knowledge must be tested before claiming any kind of expertise. Universities/colleges serve that purpose, among others.

That being said, most university/college lectures are pointless with the ubiquity of the internet today and the readily available knowledge it brings. They really should start implementing tests to let people skip stuff, or entire careers, if they know the topics. But that probably goes against their economic interests.

lol research experience

by the time I'll transfer I'll be shut out from the honors analysis +algebra and shunted into the BA math major for the people that can't understand analysis/want to become teachers (conversely, the BS is for those who want to go to get a math PhD and is very rigorous with different courses)

how the fuck am I going to get research taking the shit courses that people who are going to become highschool trig teachers take

I called their math department and they basically said they won't let me take the higher level intro analysis class, because I came from a CC. Fucking LOL I am so done. I want to fucking drop out again. I'm treated like mentally retarded human shit because I came from a community college when I've done harder proofs in between hentai fap sessions.

So many fucking hoops I have to jump through. It's really absurd.

>a lot of practical knowledge must be tested before claiming any kind of expertise
I'm not claiming expertise or to be a genius. I'm just lamenting how the university system is. And yes, I do know the material and I don't need to justify it to Veeky Forums because that's not really germane to the topic.

I talked to people at my state FLAGSHIP (where I will probably transfer). They legitimately don't care. The good math courses that give you a good undergrad grounding in mathematics and send people to top PhD programs are done for me because I didn't go in the 'right' way. It's over man.

I confirmed this with people at their math dept.

I have to take 3 YEARS OF PLEB TIER 'ANALYSIS' to be able to take a measure theory class when the faggots who were there already or were in the honors college get to do it immediately.

How the fuck can you justify this? Because I didn't have a perfect highschool track record at some prissy private school, that means I deserve to be treated second class and never get undergrad research and get some piece of shit BA. Ok. Makes perfect sense.

It's hilariously unfair how your high school performance determines your life. Not even how well you do in your undergrad classes. What a joke. I want to pull my hair out.

if you were as smart as you say, you would get amazing grades, and then start climbing back up easily

first get perfect grades and get your profs to vouch for you, or even better, try to find someone who's doing research and have them get you to help them, then your outlook will start to change

They don't care about grades. It's a two-tiered system. I've argued with people over this and it changes nothing.

sounds ridiculous. again, you need to climb back up slowly.

universities will make a lot of exceptions for you if you prove yourself. transfer there, fucking slay the first semester of pleb tier analysis, and then they'll talk. trust me on this one.

i mean, once you become their student instead of "the guy at a CC who says he wants to transfer" then you have a lot more options, like personally talking to the profs. you can always just go and audit the advanced classes, ask the prof to take the exam without credit and prove to him you're amazing, etc etc

>lot of practical knowledge must be tested before claiming any kind of expertise. Universities/colleges serve that purpose, among others.
This is true to a large degree. Op clearly wants to be tested this way, though, and is lamenting being blocked from it.

>shunted into the BA math major for the people that can't understand analysis/want to become teachers
>they won't let me take the higher level intro analysis class, because I came from a CC
>3 YEARS OF PLEB TIER 'ANALYSIS'
>It's a two-tiered system. I've argued with people over this and it changes nothing.
This all sounds highly irregular. I haven't heard of people being locked out of specific degrees or courses because they came from a CC before, and instructors often have wide latitude in allowing you to register for their class if they are convinced you're capable. Most of them find all the administrative bureaucracy just as annoying.

Listen to this guy. Ask to take a past exam during someone's office hours, sit in on a class, etc. It's every bit as much to their advantage to identify and cultivate the true high-potentials as it is to yours
You can also consider other schools, if you're certain this one has no place for you and will not treat you reasonably.

A true hero.

Extracurricular education is good when you age a few years and stop being a twat. I had a fun time in mine because I just tried things out and found out I like creative writing, music, art history, these are cool subjects but I wasn't able to appreciate it as a young twat.

I was a community college transfer and I'm taking graduate courses noe, maybe you're just a twat.

I think it's less that he's naturally dumb, just naturally undiciplined. I am in a similar situation. I have adhd and I'm a wizzboy. I will stomp your asshole in and diagnose you assblasted faster than you can fart my foot out. I correctly diagnose vehicles faster than any mechanic in town with zero tools or experience, same with computers/programming/electronics. Never took a course in my life. Anyone who knows me brings me stuff ranging from their Linux from scratch webserver to their plumbing to their Prius.

But I also didn't learn to read or write until grade 10 and am the dopiest, clumsiest person anyone I know knows. Passed all my classes but English with a 55/D, and most classes only to a grade 11 level. I also have a sense of time that makes me incredibly late or early (10-30 minutes) seemingly no matter what I do, though I'm not as bad anymore. I also have no emotional barriers/concept of past tense in conversation when I'm put on the spot and makes conversation with long time friends very stressful and uncomfortable for them until I notice what I'm doing.

Being on a stimulant made me cry, because it was like I should have been all my life if my parent's believed in neurological problems. Instead they just yelled at my 5 year old ass for being undiciplined.

Really what it comes down to with ADHD, you don't do shit if you're not incredibly, uncontrollably, autistically interested+lose sense of time and humanity and self while exploring the interest. At least for me.

if you, like OP, like myself, weren't given proper structure or environment or circumstances growing up, you just won't do shit you don't want to do, period. But when you DO want to do something "to the best of your ability," you do it farther in detail than the average Joe might be able to even comprehend, nevermind execute within the given time.

If you were actually intelligent you would be on scholarships right now like the rest of us.

I'm impressed that you at least managed to write down the names of those fields though, next time you can even try writing it a way that the requisite chain makes sense. Brainlet.

If you get >3.9 GPA in CC then you can easily transfer to Berkeley if you're in California. If less than that you should still easily be able to transfer to UCSD or UCLA, very respectable schools. Which NN are you in?

>3.9 UCB
Is that the cutoff point basically?
Their website says "3.66-4.00" at 24% admit rate.
3.78 here thus far.

If you were actually intelligent you would have read the thread like the rest of us