Is there a Veeky Forums iceberg chart?
Is there a Veeky Forums iceberg chart?
there is but I con't find it in my Veeky Forums folder
You only ascend if you've read George's writings
Why don't we create one right now?
>OP creates b8 Veeky Forums depth chart
>spends the next year making threads asking for someone else to post it
>this desperate for ego validation on an anonymous cambodian temple chanting imageboard
one of the most consistent and transparent samefagging attempts on this board desu
In the Realms of the Unreal should be on the bottom if it does get made.
w-what the fuck am i reading user
>no morgellons disease
even normies know the clintons are murderers
Yeah, but some faggots here say its shit
So basically all you gotta do is own a copy of Finnegan's Wake and you're at the bottom
It's not about just owning a copy of the book. It's about understanding it.
The only one who ever did was Joyce
That's the point you pleb
Am a faggot. Can confirm.
It's shit.
hahaha you have to be a degenerate to appreciate anything by joyce. well, first you have to become learned, and then choose degeneracy from that position, you have to be always overcoming yourself, that is if you really want to get the sense of joyce. you have to expose your body to some rough shit at some point too, privation, starvation, alcohol abuse, you need to suffer.
fucking lol at the literal children who assume they can just stroll into the most bizarre orgies of literature and understand what they are seeing without holding a real stake in it.
what did you say
t. drunk bum
>muh suffering
these charts will always suck because Veeky Forums creative boards are inhabited by people with very surface level knowledge of their respective mediums and at best have knowledge of something super niche that they think is 'bottom of iceberg endgame of medium' and nobody else gives a fuck about
>joyce
>'super niche'
i wasn't referring to anything specifically. to call joyce the be all end all is more the first category though, superficial knowledge
found the pleb
I'm getting really tired of this 'genre fiction lacks substance' meme.
Post ONE [1] genre fiction title with some substance.
The Transmigration of Timothy Archer
>burgerlit
nope, try again
Tarmac on the floor, slam the door. What are you waiting for?! Get down on the floor and kneel on all fours. Copulate with a wild boar. Devoured by a carnivore. Now, that's a score, aint it Johnny?!
Based PKD shouldn't be considered genre fiction.
Dhalgren
The rare work of fiction that leaps beyond its genre origins and becomes something better. Delaney is between level 3 and 4 on the chart anyhow
I'm not even sure he did.
>muh no true Scotsman
just deal w/it
why is AI controlling the world so far down? as if it's that unlikely? AI just about controls the world now as we speak and it's not a secret to anyone
jrr tolkein the godfather of modern fantasy lacking any semblance of substance, sure its standard fare now but imagine reading that in the 50s
(((AI)))
This list is very imprecise. There are writers all the way down that are fairly accessible. And reading Joyce is so enjoyable that it isn't a feeling of horror of your ignorance that you experience, it's more joy that this great man is sharing his whole mind with you.
should put ayn rand or john green at the very bottom
QUESTION
How many of you have actually read 10% of these authors or more? I mean, although I read everyday I've only read around 3 or 4 of these authors. Most of these I don't even know
Not bad really.
So then Mister I'm so self aware, what book is deep enough to go below Finnegan's Wake on this chart
Jokes on you user you motherfucker, I was not planning on sleeping tonight anyway
>being 16
underage b&
My diary desu
The Voynich Manuscript
The chart pretty much only shows how difficult these authors are to read, not really the quality of their works. E.g. Stephen King is a better writer than Franzen (no joke) even though his novels are pretty much literary fast food
Overall interesting chart though
>you have to be weird to suspect pedowood
I think it's pretty goddamn obvious to anybody who's looked for longer than 5 minutes. Cory Feldman says that MICHAEL JACKSON was the only adult in his life who DIDN'T abuse him. What the fuck does that tell you?
I'll bite user, even if it's just to give to the impression Veeky Forums actually reads.
Of this list i've read works of :
King
Bukowski
Murakami
Tokien
Ellis
Kerouac
Huxly
Conrad
Camus
Hemingway
Maupassant
Pasternak
Hesse
Marquez
Burroughs (only Naked Lunch tho)
Delillo
Saramago
Wilde
McCarthy
Dostoevsky
Tolstoy
Mishima
DFW (reading IJ now)
Kafka
Nabokov (only Lolita and The Enchanter)
Faulkner
Calvino
Melville
Gogol
Bolaño
Borges
Eco
Pynchon
Beckett
Joyce (only read Dubliners and Portrait tho).
I know like 70 to 80% of the writers on the chart.
So yeah. That's it.
that looks like it came off /pol/, if it were Veeky Forums wittgenstein would be at the bottom
>joyce at the very bottom
how trite
the poetry of william blake
voynich manuscript has been solved, just a personally created slavic alphabet, which was not uncommen in that time. not obscure at all
why is Women and Men so fucking expensive?
has it not been reprinted ever?
>another pleb who's too dumb for joyce
Wasn't bait
Wew, I guess I need to read way more. The only ones there hat I've read are: Dostoevsky(4 of his books and a short story) Gogol, Orwell, Tolkien, Bradbury,Tolstoy (War and Peace),Kafka, and Proust
accurate in some respects, awful in others.
Sartre, Chekov, Eliot and some others should be deeper down
Gass, beckett, kafka shouldn't be that low
some need better splitting of their work, like pynchon
It's out of print. Supposedly a reprint is coming out soon though
I found a copy on ebay recently for like 80 bucks or so buy it now or best offer. You could try to lowball the guy.
Why is Murakami so high? I thought his literature was considered pretty weird and esoteric.
Source?
That Cory Feldman is off his meds
What?
How old are you and how much do you read per day?
Link plox
I've read 7 and I don't even read that nuch
git gud
>tfw only 43/?
Why live
Dude, the authors I didn't read in that list weren't read because I was reading something else.
Not being at least informed on some of those authors works shouldn't be anything of note for your typical il/lit/erate
This was made back when Veeky Forums was new and we had a couple Murakami threads every day.
t. Dan Schneider
We all know that the real Hannah Montana is buried in nevada.
Lies. Why is there nothing about this anywhere?
Voynich manuscript is just as obscure as it was a hundred years ago.
I'm unironically at level 2.
Let's see, I've read at least one work from each of these authors
King
Bukowski
Orwell
Tolkien
Carver
Kerouac
Huxley
Capote
Conrad
Camus
Hemingway
Fitzgerald
Sartre
Marquez
Hesse
Chekhov
Burroughs (early)
DeLillo (early)
Bocaccio (didn't finish The Decamerone tho)
Burgess
McCarthy
Dostoevsky
Tolstoy
David Foster Wallace
Sterne
Kafka
Faulkner
Hamsun
Gogol
Cortázar
Borges
Eco
Pynchon
Lowry
Perec
Marinetti
Queneau
Joyce (middle era)
I'm 20, and i read about 40 to 70 pages a day, almost every single day. Been doing this for about two years.
I read King, Huxly and Tolkien when i was a kid tho.
Woops thiswas meant for you.
Kafka should be lower than the first Nabokov by a decent amount (he isn't a particularly easy read at deeper levels where you're not commenting on "father figures" or "allegory" or some shit), and Nabokov was a fucking plen. Late Nabokov is also too low.
Pynchon is too high.
Is this an approximate order for how to proceed as a literary neophyte?
The Mandela Effect is real though. It used to be Berenstein Bears, it used to be Looney Toons, it used to be Kit-Kat, it used to be "Mirror mirror on the wall."
Reality is changing around us. At this point I'm convinced that reality is simulated, and these are alterations in the code.
just unreliable memory and subconscious linguistic assumptions
I know. While some of the endemic confabulations reveal something interesting about the way memory works, I was parodying its subscribers, though Poe's law has a culmination here.
What does the star mean?
It lacks substance tho.
>old Irish grandparents love Joyce because Ireland
>They talk about Finnegans Wake like it's just another book
>describe it "being like a river"
I haven't read any Joyce yet. I need to catch up so I can talk to them about it.
>it used to be Looney Toons
It absolutely never was, I remember because my father pointed that out and said "The first of these were all made around original musical compositions" when I was like five.
What's your favourite book theory?
The whole idea of Iceberg charts is pure ideology and you should be ashamed of yourself if you take any of it seriously.
Chill out. It's a meme.
Ideology is a meme. He shoulda also said
>ishygddt
...
>you will never have the original tomes
i've read a pretty similar number to and mine:
Coehlo
Bradbury
Orwell
Atwood
Tolkein
Kerouac
Vonnegut
Austen
Huxley
Capote
Eliot
Conrad
Camus
Hemingway
Steinback
Fitzgerald
Maupassant
Greene
Hesse
Marquez
Burroughs
Dumas
Amis
Saramago
Wilde
Pushkin
Bocaccio
McCarthy
Dickens
Dostoevsky
Swift
Tolstoy
Kafka
Nabokov
Faulkner
Cervantes
Calvino
Melville
Gogol
Borges
Eco
Pynchon
Woolf
Queneau
Beckett
Theroux
Joyce
the chart looks sort-of-ok-ish to me. Everyone will disagree on placings and omissions. For example: King is on there but not Lem?
… and where the hell is Rabelais? Flaubert? Maturin? … ok the more I think about it the worse the chart it
Where is Joyce's early period ? It should be somewhere between Dostoyevsky and Kafka. Also, Pynchon should be down near Joyce's middle period. Also this chart is obvious garbage since it doesn't even have Shakespeare.
I looked it up and Julian Rios is a porn actor.
>Pynchon
Autistic
Bradbury's shit
Joyce is a pleasant read but what's so special about him? I only read Ulysses
>Shakespeare
It's a list of Novelists.
Nah mane, he's a writer from Galicia, Spain
Am I the only one on this board who enjoys Faulkner's work.
Nabokov fanboys will hate him just because he did, but a lot of us like him. The Sound and the Fury is easily one of the best novels of the 20th century.
Ur moms a writer from Galicia, Spain
Then why is Young on there ?