Why should we read this man? Aren't all his theories bunk?

>Morphine helps with depression
>Cocaine helps you kick morphine addiction

Etc, etc.

Not all of his theories are wrong. Most aren't even falsifiable, and Freud often changed his mind on things. He was more of a philosopher than a scientist.

>if you'd like to throw out the baby with the bath water be my guest.
I'm only going along with the scientific consensus which is that practically everything he wrote was conjecture with no empirical evidence. I suppose you could relegate it to the field of philosophy, but even continental philosophy must be systematic to a degree. Most of Freud's theories are, for lack of a better term, made up.

Also I'll say that I'm reading his lectures now and enjoying them a great deal. In answer to my own question I'd say that Freudian theories are better used as a lens of critique rather than an actual method of treatment. Or that they're worth studying in the same way as we study the Bible. Not necessarily true but so ingrained in our collective consciousness that it might as well be. I'm picking apart my excuses as I go though. I'd love to hear what Zizek's justification for Freud is though

This. If you got updated psychology, why read the old and wrong?

As was Aristotle. He was still a great mind, that's why you should read him.

I think his theory of the unconscious is extraordinarily influential to this day. It shattered the positivis thought of the time and laid the groundwork for all kinds of 20th Century social movements. Frankfurt School repeatedly combined Marxist thought with Freudian psychoanalysis to "pathologize" society; postmodernists and any other number of schools of thought have used similar methods. Lacan, who remains somewhat influential in literary theory and now in Zizek's thought, drew heavily on Freud's thought in creating his theories. Even a lot of modern social science addressing unconscious/ subconscious bias is heavily indebted to Freud; otherwise, we would only be concerned with conscious thought.

That said, it is a mistake to treat his thought as medical psychiatry, which it was for a while. I read the entirety of Interpretation of Dreams, and I didn't get anything out of it that seemed to be worthwhile today. That said, Civilization and it's Discontents is still a valuable read, and thankfully not very long.

Actually a decent amount of Aristotle's non-natural-sciences stuff still works pretty well. The Rhetoric and the Poetics are both rather on-point.

maybe they are but he was historically important
he's also now retroactively being looked at as a philospher

He had some interesting ideas for organizing, accounting for, understanding, and acting upon the phenomenal experiences of human life. They happened to be empirically false with regards to the actual mechanics of psychology, but they're still interesting techniques of understanding.

It's easy to dismiss Freud in 2016, but that doesn't mean he wasn't doing groundbreaking work in his time. I actually just took a class on Freud and it was frustrating listen to all the nu-females just berate his work as sexist and creepy. They can't peel back the 2016 lens and understand the bigger picture.

You should only read it if you are willing to fall into the post-structuralist/post-modernist sophism meme. Otherwise, avoid everything but...

Nah, who the fuck am I kidding? He is pretty influential to be honest, even if psychoanalysis is a pseudo-science. He must be read, despite being a fucking Jew, and very fraudulent at times. Reading Freud is the only way to understand how culture developed the century following the publication of The Interpretation of Dreams.

OT is much better imo

>Aren't all his theories bunk?

They certainly haven't been falsified, maybe they can't. Freud made sure to distinguish between the clinical practice of psychoanalysis and its metapsychological foundations. He sure wasn't an idiot

His work laid the foundation of modern psychology. He invented psychotherapy, which is still used today. His insight on several topics such as the unconscious and subconscious, and defense mechanisms is still valid to this day.

Trying to reduce Freud's importance from psychology (basically only femnazi SJW) is like trying to say Fleming did nothing in medicine because we now use a highly modified version of penicillin instead of the one that originally discovered.

Return of the repressed and death drive are true af desu

Some of his theories have been showed to actually be true using functional magnetic ressonance imaging of the central nervous system.

However, he is known to have invented many cases to advance his narrative.

>and defense mechanisms is still valid to this day
Also, as another fact, her daughter, Anna Freud, developed and described the defense mechanisms further.

>we now use a highly modified version of penicillin
Pleb as fuck view. Not all beta-lactamic antibiotics are derived from penicillin. Hell, there are several classes of antibiotics beside beta-lactamics. Go read some Pharmacology book, fucking Sub-Saharan, before spewing your fallacies on a Burmese rice harvesting imageboard.

You sound mad.
How do you feel about your father? Do you want to give mommy some fucc?

>resorting to ad-hominems when proven to be as sharp as a cow
Pathetic. I bet you are projecting as well. Have a smug anime girl in exchange.

>Missing the point this hard.
You do realize that the structure of penicillin has been altered to create broad spectrum penicillins such as amoxicillin and ampicillin which are much more widely used. We also have new penicillins like piperacillin.

YOU grab a pharmacology book you lazy med school drop out.

>thinking piperacillin is a new antibiotic
>not knowing about ceftalorine or MRSA-cephalosporins, which are actually new
>thinking all beta-lactamics are derived from penicillin
Top kek. I bet you don't even know about ceftazidime + avibactam. Hell, I bet you didn't even read the NEJM article published last year about ceftalorine.

>2016
>amoxicillin or ampicillin having any use without either clavulanate or sulbactam, respectively, for anything other than a sore throat
>ampicillin having any use but neonatal infections and puerperal infections, and in combination with amikacin
Fucking kids these days. By the way, calculate amoxicillin to 90mg/kg/day if you are treating children; I bet you think 50mg/kg/day is enough.

>hurrdurr, penicillin was used before sulfonamide
>not knowing about the first modern family of antibiotics, which are derived from sulfonamide

Go read some Mandell, Douglas and Benett's Principles of Infectious Disease before replying to me again.

Freud's core idea (the root of maladies can be mental, not physical) remains true to this day.

>Implying I implied all beta-lactamics are derived from penicillin.
>Implying I was talking about new beta-lactamics instead of just penicillin.
>Implying I was talking about the clinical use of penicillins instead of their different structure.
>Mentioning irrelevant information.
>Name dropping popular journal names and medical textbooks.
>Using anime images to reply.

I admit, you trolled me good. Every single one of your replies is trying to sound knowledgeable despite not even referencing what was actually mentioned in the text in my post.

>Every single one of your replies is trying to sound knowledgeable despite not even referencing what was actually mentioned in the text in my post.
Sub-Saharan, please. I am just demonstrating why your "Trying to reduce Freud's importance from psychology (basically only femnazi SJW) is like trying to say Fleming did nothing in medicine because we now use a highly modified version of penicillin instead of the one that originally discovered" is a pleb as fuck view.
Also, suck it up your ass.

Yes, I'm sure comparing one person's importance to one field to another person's importance to another field makes me pleb.

I really hope failing at showing off to strangers on a Vietnamese comic board make you feel better about never "making it" at med school.

>I really hope failing at showing off to strangers on a Vietnamese comic board make you feel better about never "making it" at med school.
Projecting, my undergrad drop-out? Suddenly, even if this had started being lulzworthy, I am now feeling rather sad for your sorry ass.
By the way, I am a specialist. Go suck a dick.