Go to LGBT section to find lesbian fiction

Wow. Actually btfo in a lit-related manner. Well done.

>None of this has made me think of Natural Law as a philosophically defensible concept, nor approve of the way Aristotelian metaphysics is appropriated by Catholicism to vilify behaviors and lifestyles it sees as sinful.
So your argument boils down to it's just like your opinion mane? Because I've found it convincing and what then?
It's not a concept hard to defend, as seen by the noticeable revival of it, especially in the past 70 years.

>Maybe you should follow Aristotle's practical ethics and work on your virtues instead of being a retard and defending dead ideas.

This is his practical ethics. And the ideas are far from dead, there's been a massive revival of thomism, especially in the Anglo world, Peter Geach, Elizabeth Anscombe, Alasdair MacIntyre, Edward Feser, Fredrick Copleston and probably a few more names.
What's exactly well done there?
Saying it is hard to defend the concept? Calling an idea "outdated" and therefore wrong?

It's possibly defensible with a heavily reworked form of naturalism, but let's not avoid that most of the people defending it are connecting ethics with God, and pretending Aristotle's theory doesn't work without religious commandments.
It's ultimately taking deontology and disguising it with some reasonable terms so it doesn't sound like absolute dictates. This is what Thomas does, after all - natural law is an aspect of divine law. I won't deny his wealth of knowledge and even genius but he is not an aristotelian as such.

Patricia Higsmith.
Radclyffe Hall.
Mrs. Dalloway.

>ctrl+f Proust
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this board is filled with plebs

no. honestly I'm a gay man and I hate lesbians. no one likes lesbians.

nature = survival
homosexuals spread disease and do not care about the future due to not having offspring - bad for everyone else

this didn't change when we stopped needing to try as hard to survive

>no one likes lesbians.
Not my experience, most lesbians I've got the pleasure of knowing are bros.
Then again, I'm straight so I can't exactly speak to the homosexual condition which has classically pitted queers against lesbians, probably because they have less in common with each other than they have with straight people beyond homosexual labeling.

Yet yours is the singlet argument pro homocoxuality, though roughly all anuses are equally returdick.

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Carmilla

it was against nature as procreation was a means of survival for the species. but nowadays it's not so being gay is okay.

honestly here is my opinion. it's a government conspiracy. the government told us massaging our prostates would prevent cancer and now we know it doesn't. now you've got all these dudes exploring their prostates with other dude's dicks as part of a population control measure for the weak-minded who can't smell the government's tricks.

Dat pic so hawt tho why dyou need lit for that, also this wut

>government tricking people into not having kids

this would be the most moral thing the US govt has ever done

>muh antinatalism
the one philosophy shared by both the biggest sluts and loser perma-virgins

Not really antinatalism, I'm not against people wanting children, I just think we're making more kids than people who can raise them, so, making people get pregnant less and adopt more is moral on both giving orphans a loving home and not increasing the head count of a dying planet.

It's ridiculous how many people still believe the disproven 70s alarmist notion of overpopulation. The planet's population will plateau at around 9 or 10 billion, and will then immediately contract, which will be a huge burden on all those Western governmental programs that are predicted on the dependancy ratio being skewed towards more people paying in than receiving. The reason places like Germany have to dilute their culture by bringing in so many economic migrants is because in places like Germany women aren't having enough fucking kids. The European birthrate is below replacement pretty much everywhere.

In other words, the potential problems of overpopulation are overshadowed by the very real problem of demographic decline, particularly Western demographic decline.

>The planet's population will plateau at around 9 or 10 billion, and will then immediately contract
>[citation needed]

> the very real problem of demographic decline, particularly Western demographic decline.
>muh white people
Uh... western society is a social, not a racial construct. Long-term immigration and racial replacement of historically white europe does not necessitate cultural change. You just need to integrate, and not ghettoise, your immigrant populations.

The fact that integration is failing is the problem - not white people failing to fuck each other.

>>[citation needed]
>The global population will continue to grow for decades. "But," says Wolfgang Lutz, "that shouldn't distract us from the fact that an entirely different development has been underway for some time." Lutz is the director of the Vienna-based International Institute for Applied System Analysis (IIASA) and one of the world's most prominent demographers. As he sees it, it is "highly probable that mankind will begin to shrink by 2060 or 2070."
spiegel.de/international/world/bild-795479-279208.html

The UN agrees, but their numbers are more optimistic.

>Uh... western society is a social, not a racial construct.
Let's put aside the heritability of certain traits. That's a rabbit hole I don't want fall in right now. And let's assume that the Muslim immigrant population will give up being Muslim and become secular Westerners full of crushing ennui of a post-religious existence. The real problem is this, if Western culture is adoptable, then the practices that lead to that demographic collapse will also be adopted. So it's a catch-22: if the migrants don't adapt, Western culture dies. If they do adapt, they themselves start having less kids, and Western culture dies anyways.

>Tfw I will never live in this much denial

This. But Mrs. Dalloway fucked evertbody.

>capitalist country
>population control
Pick 1 [ONE]

>what is overpopulation

a myth

>people totally haven't been gay for at least hundreds of years

If you'd read the article, you'd know that it says that populations will reach a point of neither decline nor advance. Is there any reason why that is not an ideal situation?

I find it interesting that you mentioned Muslim immigrants specifically, when they had not been mentioned at all prior. Aside from that, how is abandoning ones religion a prerequisite for joining western society? You seem to imply that it is, and I'd love to know why.

Do you have anything to support that statement?

Can you rephrase the question with french fries on it?

>If you'd read the article, you'd know that it says that populations will reach a point of neither decline nor advance.
I have read the article. The so-called equilibrium is more of a goal than an actual forecast. The truth is that if the social practices that lead to that demographic decline become ubiquitous with the rising of the standard of living, which seems to be quite possible, then the notion of an equilibrium being reached seems far-fetched. Then there's the problem of actually reaching that equilibrium in the first place. Like I said, many of Europe's social services are predicated on the notion that more people will be paying in than receiving.

Now imagine a shrinking Europe with the dependency ratio being out of wack. The rapid deflation, the labor shortages, the urban decay. Doesn't seem like a recipe for peace, especially when the fastest growing demographic doesn't seem to want to play nice.

>Aside from that, how is abandoning ones religion a prerequisite for joining western society?
Because Islam's teachings are antithetical to many of Western culture's beliefs and axioms. Islamic Western culture is an oxymoron.

Read the thread. Every population forecast predicts an inevitable plateau at around 2070 or earlier.

Never heard of it.

>Radclyffe Hall

>The British composer and bon-vivant Gerald Tyrwhitt-Wilson, 14th Baron Berners, wrote a roman à clef girls' school story entitled The Girls of Radcliff Hall, in which he depicts himself and his circle of friends, including Cecil Beaton and Oliver Messel, as lesbian schoolgirls at a school named "Radcliff Hall". The novel was written under the pseudonym "Adela Quebec" and published and distributed privately; the indiscretions to which it alluded created an uproar among Berners's intimates and acquaintances, making the whole affair highly discussed in the 1930s. Cecil Beaton attempted to have all the copies destroyed.

Bro.. I usually wouldn't be into that cartoon shit. But I'm 1 month into nofap and pics like this are really fucking with me... Do your homie a favor an refrain from posting those plz

>I have read the article. The so-called equilibrium is more of a goal than an actual forecast.
The article is actually extremely ambiguous as to whether it will happen or not. To say it's more of a goal than a forecast implies that it's more likely to not happen. That's beside the fact that even the more pessimistic views of lutz say that it is possible, while the more optimistic UN reports say that it's likely.
>The truth is that if the social practices that lead to that demographic decline become ubiquitous with the rising of the standard of living, which seems to be quite possible, then the notion of an equilibrium being reached seems far-fetched. Then there's the problem of actually reaching that equilibrium in the first place. Like I said, many of Europe's social services are predicated on the notion that more people will be paying in than receiving.

Now imagine a shrinking Europe with the dependency ratio being out of wack. The rapid deflation, the labor shortages, the urban decay. Doesn't seem like a recipe for peace, especially when the fastest growing demographic doesn't seem to want to play nice.
This is all speculation on your part until you can supply a source.

>Because Islam's teachings are antithetical to many of Western culture's beliefs and axioms. Islamic Western culture is an oxymoron.
That's why Muslims can and do live in the United States currently, right? Also, you still haven't answered why you mentioned Muslim immigrants when it wasn't even part of the conversation.

>Read the thread.
"Read the thread." isn't a source, especially when your arguments are being contested by others.
>Every population forecast predicts an inevitable plateau at around 2070 or earlier.
How is this mutually exclusive to overpopulation existing? There can be an equal amount of births and deaths, whilst still being overpopulated. It would only matter that there is going to be a plateau, if the world were not overpopulated already. Either way, you still need to offer a source for your statement that overpopulation is "a myth".

Why are you doing nofap? I don't mean to be rude or anything. I'm just genuinely curious.

He fell for the /pol9k/ meme

What a useless post. I expected at least a couple attempts at a refutation, not just you reiterating my first point then asking for more evidence to support my second point.

>This is all speculation on your part until you can supply a source.
A source for what? A source that illustrates the potential decline of the population, or a source that details the problems inherent to a shrinking populace?

>That's why Muslims can and do live in the United States currently, right?

The Muslims who come to the US come through work visas; they tend to be much wealthier than the average Muslim. They tend to be rational people: doctors, educators, secular academics, or just fairly well-off business men. American Muslims actually make more money than their native white counterparts. This isn't comparable to the situation in Europe, where the poor Muslims ghettoize themselves since their numbers ensure that they don't have to adapt to the native population. As for why I mentioned Muslims in the first place, that's because the demographic problem is most striking in Europe, and most modern European migrants are Muslim.

>There can be an equal amount of births and deaths, whilst still being overpopulated.
Here's the heart of my point. The resource strains that coincide with a large population are known, and they're actually fairy easy to take care of. We're never going to run out of space; the major potential problem is sustenance, which is something that modern farming practices (particularly the use of GMOs) are capable of solving. The problems inherent to demographic decline, on the other hand, are much more pressing. Everything from political instability, to urban decay, to the creation of a permanent underclass. There are some European countries that could very well turn themselves into Brazil if more isn't done to avoid this permanent class stratification. That's much more frightening than the 70s alarmist idea of overpopulation.

Try it yourself see how it affects you. If the challenge is so hard that you can't possibly stop masturbating, then what does that say about your relationship to porn?

I think I feel better. I got more energy. Also, got me rid of some of the nasty fetishes I developed.
Plus I think I look more muscular. You also get sexually frustrated to a point where you're more motivated to be successful. It doesn't sound like much, but it's a lot.

Have you ever thought of just masturbating without porn?

pic related

God bless Japan

>What a useless post. I expected at least a couple attempts at a refutation, not just you reiterating my first point then asking for more evidence to support my second point.
I wasn't "just reiterating" your first point. I reiterated to show how it factually doesn't support or go against your argument despite your implications that it does. I also wasn't asking for "more" evidence to support your second point. I was asking for any evidence at all.

>A source for what? A source that illustrates the potential decline of the population
How would that help your argument? You already showed a source that says that there is potential for a decline, but it was much too ambiguous to say definitively whether it would or not.
>or a source that details the problems inherent to a shrinking populace?
This would be excellent, yes. Is there a particular reason why your so incredulous to the need for that?

>The Muslims who come to the US come through work visas; they tend to be much wealthier than the average Muslim. They tend to be rational people: doctors, educators, secular academics, or just fairly well-off business men. American Muslims actually make more money than their native white counterparts. This isn't comparable to the situation in Europe, where the poor Muslims ghettoize themselves since their numbers ensure that they don't have to adapt to the native population. As for why I mentioned Muslims in the first place, that's because the demographic problem is most striking in Europe, and most modern European migrants are Muslim.
Isn't it a good thing that we're talking about the United States and not Europe? It's incredible how an entirely different set of circumstances would produce a different response. You also completely forget to mention Muslims that aren't coming to the US at all. We have Muslims who were born and raised here.

>Here's the heart of my point. The resource strains that coincide with a large population are known, and they're actually fairy easy to take care of. We're never going to run out of space; the major potential problem is sustenance, which is something that modern farming practices (particularly the use of GMOs) are capable of solving. The problems inherent to demographic decline, on the other hand, are much more pressing. Everything from political instability, to urban decay, to the creation of a permanent underclass. There are some European countries that could very well turn themselves into Brazil if more isn't done to avoid this permanent class stratification. That's much more frightening than the 70s alarmist idea of overpopulation.
Those are very interesting statements. However, as with any other statement, the burden of proof lies with you. I'll need citations before I take any of them seriously.

I don't care if it's placebo. Even the fact that I know I can restrain myself from giving up to my urges makes me feel better. Plus I don't have to deal with the hassle that comes with fapping, or those few moments afterwards where you feel like shit. I don't need to fap anymore in order to fall asleep.. It's just so much better.

Government isn't creating the gays, just increasing their numbers.

>placebo
Ever thought to yourself why so many different social and religious institutions have advised avoiding masturbation? Why boxers don't ejaculate a week prior to fighting? Again, just try it out yourself.

Eileen Myles poetry and memoir are very dope.

Canada and the United States are a paradise of assimilation and integration compared to Europe. The main thing we did right was not let so many muslims in in the first place; they're just one group out of many so they can't act like princesses like they do in Europe.

I literally don't even use porn when I fap. And I'm not going to try something just to see how it affects me.

I mean I feel like those could be placebos just like said. Also how does being sexually frustrated make you motivated to be successful, besides like I don't know, getting sex.

Oh okay. I feel like there are other ways to know that you can restrain yourself, but if it's what you want to do then that's cool too I guess. Wait, what few moments after when you feel like shit??? I've never experienced that. Needing to fap before falling asleep????? I have never even heard of that. I'll go several days before even remembering that fapping is a thing. I think you need help, but more along the lines of getting to better terms with yourself and your sexuality, rather than trying to just run away from the problem.

I mean that's still not a reason for me to try it. Popular doesn't mean true. And I'm not really gonna just try something without having a reason to.

>And I'm not really gonna just try something without having a reason to.
What do you have to lose? It's a fleeting pleasure that you're going to restrict yourself from having for a short period of time, that's it. It's like not drinking coffee for a month to see how it affects your mood.

It's nothing major. It's not like I can't fall asleep if I don't fap, it's just a big hassle.
But I know that when you think about it, fapping is such a pathetic and disgusting thing to do.. milking the sperm out of your body like some animal, and tricking it into thinking you're reproducing. Kind of gross.

I mean, I have a fleeting pleasure to lose. You just said that didn't you? Also it's not really like giving up coffee, just because coffee has been proven to have significant mood effects and is inherently unhealthy for you due to large amounts of caffeine and usually sugar (unless you like it dark or whatever, I don't drink coffee so I don't know about tastes).

How is it disgusting? We are animals, and everything we do is tricking our bodies. Watching a movie is tricking our bodies into thinking that the events are playing out in front of us. Tricking our bodies is one of the best tricks we've done as humans. Anyways, if you look at it from a more literal level, you can't really trick your body into doing anything since it has no sentience besides yours. As long as you don't think your reproducing when you fap, then your not tricking your body into doing anything, you're just having a good time, completely aware of what's happening. There's nothing really gross about doing something pleasurable, besides the cleanup.

If you're happier in the end that's all that matters.

>Ever thought to yourself why so many different social and religious institutions have advised avoiding masturbation?

Religious superstition and quack medicine. The same reason why cornflakes were invented and male circumcision became common in the US.

>Why boxers don't ejaculate a week prior to fighting?

There's that placebo effect again. Why do cosmonauts watch "The White Sun of the Desert" before every flight? It makes them feel better. There's no causal relationship between the movie and a successful flight. If there's one thing I can count on in my life it's my sex drive. Every day I either fap or get laid, ever since I was 12 years old. If I don't feel like fapping, I know something's wrong. If I have something important to do the next day, a sports event, an exam, a first date, I take extra care to have a good fap. That way I'm calm and relaxed.

I don't want to make important life decisions based on lust. Chasing pussy like a bull in rut is a great way to fuck up your life.

>This would be excellent, yes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_crisis

>"The effects of a declining population can be adverse for an economy which has borrowed extensively for repayment by younger generations. Economically declining populations are thought to lead to deflation, which has a number of effects."

>"A declining population due to low fertility rates will also be accompanied by population ageing which can contribute problems for a society. This can adversely affect the quality of life for the young as an increased social and economic pressure in the sense that they have to increase per-capita output in order to support an infrastructure with costly, intensive care for the oldest among their population. The focus shifts away from the planning of future families and therefore further degrades the rate of procreation. The decade-long economic malaise of Japan and Germany in the 1990s and early 2000s is often linked to these demographic problems, though there were also several other causes. The worst-case scenario is a situation where the population falls too low a level to support a current social welfare economic system, which is more likely to occur with a rapid decline than with a more gradual one."

>"Analysing data for 40 countries, Lee et al. show that fertility well above replacement and population growth would typically be most beneficial for government budgets"

>"A high dependency ratio can cause serious problems for a country if a large proportion of a government's expenditure is on health, social security & education, which are most used by the youngest and the oldest in a population. The fewer people of working age, the fewer the people who can support schools, retirement pensions, disability pensions and other assistances to the youngest and oldest members of a population, often considered the most vulnerable members of society."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_ratio

>It's incredible how an entirely different set of circumstances would produce a different response.

It's not just a result of the environment these people are immigrating to, it's also a result of the people who are immigrating in the first place. I hate to sound callous or racist, but intelligence plays a big role. A high-IQ Syrian doctor is obviously going to better assimilate to his new country than a former farmer is.

>there are people who actually believe this
god bless white america

There is no study on the effects of masturbation, but there is on the effects of pornography, which is functionally intertwined with masturbation

>We found a significant negative association between reported pornography hours per week and gray matter volume in the right caudate (P

You're completely right, but eventually your body is releasing those sperm cells for a specific reason.
I think that we've reached a certain point where, porn has become so available to us, food and drink became so available to us, entertainment.. We rarely have to leave our house if we don't want to. And I think that masturbating is to a certain degree abusing the dopamine rush that you get from an orgasm, and as a result we become more aloof to everything.. Towards women, towards working hard and doing something productive because why not? With the amount of orgasms you're having your body thinks that you're kind of king who gets whatever he wants whenever he wants, but in reality very few of us are like that in reality. That's kind of why I think masturbation is a really unhealthy habit to have, and it won't change who you are if you'll stop doing it but you'll feel a little bit happier with yourself.

By the way I'm sorry for the typos. I've been up for like 28 hours and I'm on my phone right now because I'm not home yet.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_crisis
>>"The effects of a declining population can be adverse for an economy which has borrowed extensively for repayment by younger generations. Economically declining populations are thought to lead to deflation, which has a number of effects."
>>"A declining population due to low fertility rates will also be accompanied by population ageing which can contribute problems for a society. This can adversely affect the quality of life for the young as an increased social and economic pressure in the sense that they have to increase per-capita output in order to support an infrastructure with costly, intensive care for the oldest among their population. The focus shifts away from the planning of future families and therefore further degrades the rate of procreation. The decade-long economic malaise of Japan and Germany in the 1990s and early 2000s is often linked to these demographic problems, though there were also several other causes. The worst-case scenario is a situation where the population falls too low a level to support a current social welfare economic system, which is more likely to occur with a rapid decline than with a more gradual one."
>>"Analysing data for 40 countries, Lee et al. show that fertility well above replacement and population growth would typically be most beneficial for government budgets"
>>"A high dependency ratio can cause serious problems for a country if a large proportion of a government's expenditure is on health, social security & education, which are most used by the youngest and the oldest in a population. The fewer people of working age, the fewer the people who can support schools, retirement pensions, disability pensions and other assistances to the youngest and oldest members of a population, often considered the most vulnerable members of society."
It's nice how you cherry picked wikipedia, instead of supplying an actual source. Underpopulation isn't even the focus of this, nor would it cause these problems without the other necessary factors that this wikipedia page list.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_ratio
This is relevant how? Anyways, didn't they teach you in highschool not to cite wikipedia, or did you not get to those classes yet?

>It's not just a result of the environment these people are immigrating to, it's also a result of the people who are immigrating in the first place. I hate to sound callous or racist, but intelligence plays a big role. A high-IQ Syrian doctor is obviously going to better assimilate to his new country than a former farmer is.
Like I said before, it's a good thing that these are different circumstances then. Ignoring the fact that you are being callous as well as racist in your assumptions, we were talking about Muslims and not Syrians. Is there any reason you brought them up, other than that they're all one big boogeyman in your mind?

HOW HARD IS IT TO JERK OFF WITHOUT LOOKING AT PORN

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU DEGENERATES USE THE IMAGINATION GOD GAVE YOU

JESUS CHRIST

This pretty much articulates it. Abstaining from masturbation is just a means of avoiding dissipation and satiation. It makes you restless, which can be both a good and a bad thing.

Who even cares if it's to porn or not to porn? I'm at a point where if I touch my dick the wrong way a torrent of cum will start shooting out. This is not what nofap is about, it's about abstaining from masturbation, not porn.

In almost every piece of nofap "literature" I've come across, masturbation and porn are mentioned in the same breath. For example our friend Jeff has been conflating porn and masturbation the whole time

If you're interested in the issue look at the sources wikipedia cites. The purpose of wikipedia is to get a quick overview of a fairly complex subject matter. It's not a source per se, but it's a fine starting point, especially when you aren't writing an academic paper and are only researching for your own personal edification.

>This is relevant how?
In order to link to a passage I quoted.

>Is there any reason you brought them up,

I don't like Muslims and i'm frightened of many of their cultural and religious practices. And i'm especially frightened of their willingness to blow themselves up despite seeming assimilated to the wider culture. I'm scared of what'll happen to people who critique the religion, and i'm scared of how a France with a larger Muslim population will begin to craft its foreign policy in order to placate them.

HOURS OF PORNOGRAPHY A WEEK?????? What the fuck. How often would you have to fap?? Or maybe it's just like 1 or 2 MULTIPLE HOUR fap sessions???? Porn is not functionally intertwined with masturbation unless you need some help. Jesus christ, not fapping and fapping like a maniac are two different sides of wild. There's an in between you know, like having healthy habits and not being so fucking extreme.

I mean, what kind of habits would you have to have if you weren't even leaving your house so that you could masturbate?? You need like psychological help, not some pseudoscience bullshit. How would not masturbating help with any of those things? Like women sure if you're only going to have sex with them and nothing else, but it would in no way help a relationship. Work???? Do you not have anything other than a lizard brain to help you with long term goals and planning? How would fapping occasionally be getting anything that you want??? If you don't have long term goals, then I'm sorry, but you're probably depressed. If you are depressed, then this is not the way to go about being happier. It will not work to make things better in the end.

You can avoid being a fucking deviant while still masturbating, it's not some slippery slope bullshit. Restlessness?????? That is not something that functioning members of society are supposed to feel. Restlessness should not be the only reason that you go out and do things. I'm recommending you get help too, cause even if you're not depressed, this is a pessimistic fucking worldview.

Exactly, and it's not like you're torturing yourself and turning yourself into a nerve wreck (except for when you bump into porn or whatever), it just kind of gives you more energy as a result of that sexual frustration, but you don't really feel it throughout the day.
Yeah but that's just because those things are combined so often because it makes masturbation feel closer to the real thing, but it's not like doing it without porn will be any different or change anything.

I don't know if you're doing it on purpose, but you're taking every aspect of what I said the wrong way.

I'm not a crusader for no fap by any means. I'm perfectly willing to accept that most people can accommodate pornless masturbation into their perfectly healthy lifestyles. What I do find curious is that whenever you bring it up people aren't just unwilling to try it out of curiosity, but are actively opposed to it as if you were asking them to stop eating or breathing.

Well sure people are going to be opposed to it if they have no reasons to do it whatsoever and have reasons to keep doing it. It's not as serious as not eating or breathing, there's just no reason to.

The reason to at least experiment with it for a measly month is that many people not just now, but throughout history have claimed its benefits.

Not him. But it's pretty obvious why they won't do it - it would take too much effort for them to abstain for masturbating for even just a month, and if they won't want to do it themselves they'll never pull it off.

Cool opinion man. You still haven't said a reason besides anecdotes of "dood people have said it's cool and stuff"
No, it's what I fucking said, which is that there's literally no reason to. I've not fapped for months before, and if that's not something that you can do without strenuous effort then you should see someone about that.

read between the lines of judith butler

So you're addicted to masturbation, right? Just admit it.

>You still haven't said a reason besides anecdotes of "dood people have said it's cool and stuff"
Given that there aren't really any serious medical studies dealing directly with masturbation's long term effects on mood (only in roundabout ways, like over-satiation and porn addiction) my recommendation would necessarily have to be subjective. All I can possibly say is try it out.

Okay, I can agree with that reasoning. I think it is a major problem that we don't have more studies dealing with sex and masturbation and stuff. I have gone without fapping for months though, just because I've forgotten to. I really didn't feel any different.

How would that post even imply that?? At least the trip person is trying to be reasonable.

>What I do find curious is that whenever you bring it up people aren't just unwilling to try it out of curiosity, but are actively opposed to it as if you were asking them to stop eating or breathing.

I can't be bothered to try out every pseudo-scientific technique I hear on the internet just to see if it works. Plus, like the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

>many people not just now but throughout history have claimed its benefits.

Pragmatic fallacy. It's also kind of a religion or a subculture for you people, so you get a sense of community and common purpose.

>revival of thomism
god isn't real.

This might help.

Was it not the sin of violence against the self?

Many people throughout history have claimed that eating tiger penis soup cures erectile dysfunction and improves one's libido. Keep on believing whatever bullshit you want though.

Tiger penis soup was a regional belief. Anti-onanism was ubiquitous

Edgy

There is no overpopulation, its an illusion that people see because they live in densely populated areas.Its the same when people start saying how we need to burn the dead/plant them as trees because there is not enough space when in truth there is enough space to have all 3 ways of burial, even in japan or wherever is it you picture this overpopulation

It's strawmen all the way down I guess, huh? Surely ubiquitous popularity translates into scientific validity. You've convinced the fuck out of me. I think I'm going to go buy a magnetic bracelet now on Amazon. Thanks, user.

You haven't been reading the thread. Do that before shitting it up. I've already conceded that the scientific evidence that supports my claim only deals with the tertiary elements of masturbation, like porn, and that there's never been a long term study on how masturbation affects one's mood. I'm making suppositions and am using anecdotal evidence to support it. I know that's unscientific, but i'm not making grand, unfalsifiable claims about jerking off. I'm simply saying that abstaining worked for me, and the fact that it also worked for a lot of people throughout history suggests that it should at the very least be studied.

Now you have me picturing scientists jerking off mice for a while, observing their behavior, and then beheading them to gauge neurotransmitter levels. Thanks for the laugh. After reading through the thread I have to say that I respect your honesty. Good luck with no-fap though your rise in mood can almost certainly be attributed to the placebo effect.

You literally do not need any argument against homosexuality other than the fact that it is forbidden by God.

>Uh... western society is a social, not a racial construct. Long-term immigration and racial replacement of historically white europe does not necessitate cultural change

>Muslims will abandon their culture and assimilate and be just like you! Foreign people replacing you in your homelands is nothing to fear, they'll become westerners tthemselves, nothing will change
>I find it interesting that you mentioned Muslim immigrants specifically, when they had not been mentioned at all prior. Aside from that, how is abandoning ones religion a prerequisite for joining western society? You seem to imply that it is, and I'd love to know why.

>Hey, wait a minute, what does abandoning their culture has to do with adopting ours?

>nothing will change and muzzie will become indistinguishable westerners
>except for them replacing you and retaining their own nonwestern culture

Save the planet, kill yourself

aint no god

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