I like to jerk off, you like to jerk off, everyone likes to jerk off. That we can't really control our primitive urges is not the question here. I'd like to talk about how sex for enjoyment is degenerated. I think most here can relate with some degenerate fetishes that developed trough embracing sexual urges.
Yes, sex is an open topic almost everywhere because everyone has the urge. But doesn't this animalistic urge hold us back? I don't want your personal opinion how you think about sex. I know we all love to jerk off and we wouldn't want to miss it. That's not the question. I'm asking on your honest opinion about reacting on sexual urges out of enjoyment . Isn't it just degenerated and a waste of time? Doesn't it shape our character for the worse? Aren't people that embrace it the biggest degenerates alive?
Of course, think of all that time spent masturbating that could be spent discovering a cure for AIDS or a warp drive or other cool shit.
Charles Jenkins
Masturbation serves a biological purpose. It keeps a supply of young, healthy sperm at the ready for a reproductive opportunity. A reproductive-aged male needs a frequent turn-over of sperm, as sperm have an ideal window of opportunity after storage in the epididymis where they are the most motile and healthy.
Masturbating with an Occulus VR headset equipped with Dolby surround sound and a PornHub Premium Pass may in fact be degenerate, however.
Parker Miller
I'm not only speaking strictly about masturbation but all kind of sexual actions. Also when does masturbation become purely degenerate? Once a day is definitely too much.
Samuel Allen
I don't think acting on any kinds of sexual urges is degenerate until it negatively affects your capacity to reproduce.
Xavier Diaz
Is this gonna be one of those threads where you just assume you're correct about things from the beginning?
Cooper Wood
>not ejaculating at least once a day literaly low test high test makes you smarter
Parker Williams
What do you feel you gain from embracing your sexual urges? How does it shape your character? Well, we need to at least agree to some point that to some extent acting on your sexual urges is degenerate to have this thread. Going to some swinger clubs to suck tons of cocks and get fucked silly with additional BDSM festih play can't be considered to be some healthy action. Neither is violating people against their will because you completely lost control over your urges. There is so much degeneracy in sexuality nowadays that it's impossible to think embracing those urges doesn't promote degeneracy.
Bentley Wright
/pol/ pls go
Caleb Myers
I had a feeling this would be treated as a personal attack because Veeky Forums is known to embrace this kind of stuff to some high extent. But at the same time I believed people here would understand exactly what I'm talking about. Look at /b/, they are almost religious about their fapping content. Look at all the fetish threads on /trash/ where people fuck their plushies and want to mate with insects. All of them started the path down the degeneracy because they embraced their sexual urges.
Isn't all the rule 34 stuff the ultimate proof how embracing this kind of thing can shape your character? I can see it with myself, I fap too really degenerate stuff too. I love doing it and I won't stop but I can see the effect it has on me.
Isaiah Nelson
I don't think I agree with any of your points. You say sex for the sake of sex (or masturbation for that matter) is degenerate, but you don't even say why. What's so bad about that? If I didn't masturbate I'd just constantly stare at all ass and titties around me and never get anything done. It's part of the human condition to need these things, there's nothing "degenerate" about it.
Austin Stewart
I'm a 22 year old male, it makes me feel good/virile to have sex with women. I have a girlfriend currently, but still enjoy masturbation too. I feel no remorse over satisfying my urges; after all, I'm here because my parents embraced theirs (ew), and someday I'll proliferate and put another horny, human animal into the world to carry the torch.
Adrian Cox
>I don't think acting on any kinds of sexual urges is degenerate until it negatively affects your capacity to reproduce. So femdom? Getting kicked in the testicles?
Jacob Sanders
It's inherently a primitive urge like violence. By constantly satisfying the urge you are promoting it to begin with. As human beings we should be above it but we aren't. What is there to gain of it if it's not to reproduce? You're just satisfying a short term goal. As intellectual human beings we have the ability to work towards higher long term goals trough suffering in the short term. If we give in to our primitive urges all the time we are nothing more than all the other animals. Only by willingly working against our shallow urges we can achieve mastery.
What's with all the people in your enviroment that embrace sexuality? Are they great people or are they just doomed to be failures? What will you have left with age when you used your youth on satisfying shallow urges instead of working for your long term goals?
Is all this masturbating to anime children really perfectly normal and not just a complete embrace of degeneracy? I agree that there can be found a compromise between satisfying those urges and keeping you away from degeneracy but how many people can really perform this way?
Jordan Rodriguez
Haha maybe dude... I was speaking more to guys that compulsively masturbate 3-4 times a day and have trouble (mentally or physically) with bustin' nuts in females.
Cameron Gutierrez
>shape your characeter >shape your characeter >shape your characeter >shape your characeter you got an obsession OP.
Being sexually attracted to something is just your subconscious telling you what is healthy for you to reproduce with. Fetishes are just the result of a society which puts sex as a taboo, resulting in individuals who have no idea what sex is in their young, and turn the second most sexual thing they know into a fetish.
It's the nature way of trying to fix things. If in a society of clown fishes runs out of females, some males start turning into females to make up for it. We humans don't have the ability to change our sexes, but the subconscious of individuals which didn't had much social contact with females turn into homosexuals.
Nathan Sanchez
is me and here is the reason why we have homosexuals and trans in our society
Brayden Cox
>resulting in individuals who have no idea what sex is in their young, and turn the second most sexual thing they know into a fetish. W A I F U S
Jose Murphy
It's quite ironic because homosexuals and transsexuals are clearly a degenerate result from embracing sexual urges.
Are you really above it to confirm that acting on sexual urges has some kind of negative effect on you?
Adrian Lewis
>I'd like to talk about how sex for enjoyment is degenerated. Morality is not Veeky Forumsence.
Brody Nguyen
>As human beings we should be above it but we aren't. Why? >What is there to gain of it if it's not to reproduce? Euphoria. >You're just satisfying a short term goal. And? >As intellectual human beings we have the ability to work towards higher long term goals trough suffering in the short term. Why is that desirable? >If we give in to our primitive urges all the time we are nothing more than all the other animals. So? >Only by willingly working against our shallow urges we can achieve mastery. Does not follow.
You seem to have no objective arguments, everything you say basically boils down to "I don't like sex, therefore no one should do it".
Gavin Fisher
We both know perfectly well that there is no scientific research in this field because it's a taboo to denounce sexuality like that.
Aiden Fisher
You lack in reading comprehension. I clearly stated that I love acting on my sexual urges. It's a clear observation of myself that acting on sexual urges made me more of a degenerate. Clearly I have overwritten my sexual preferences a long time ago with degeneracy and I wouldn't be able to choose the perfect female to breed anymore but also would breed a larger range of females, even those who are suboptimal genetically.
Jackson Allen
>You lack in reading comprehension. Nope. >It's a clear observation of myself that acting on sexual urges made me more of a degenerate. Which is only a subjective opinion. You've failed to make any objective points so far.
Angel Bailey
there are no such thing as the ''perfect female'', and wanting ''to breed a large range of females'' is natural
Parker Thompson
As did you and it was never asked to give objective opinions as it's impossible as there is no reseach in this regard. From the very beginning I asked for everyone's subjective observations and thoughts but I got personal hurt egos instead.
Jeremiah Green
>"I'm a shithead with anecdotal evidence to support my frivolous claims and ideas." the post. Your post reeks of superiority complex.
Josiah Peterson
I think resisting natural urges in any regard increases your mental/emotional strength. Aside from sexual stuff there's exercise, resisting the urge to eat, taking a cold bath/shower, interacting with other humans outside the internet, etc. This can only be done to an extent though. Try as we might to become computers, we aren't computers, we're animals, we'll always be animals, we have to adhere to nature's laws to an extent or we'll damage ourselves.
Jaxon Kelly
Everyone on this place has a slight superiority complex at the very least. Why do you people always lie to yourself to prove the OP wrong. Stop being faggots and man the fuck up for once in your lfie you childish fucks.
Elijah Adams
>implying you're an optimal male yourself
Owen Johnson
>We both know perfectly well that there is no scientific research in this field because it's a taboo to denounce sexuality like that.
You're not getting it. There is never going to be a paper on how "degeneracy" is good or bad; not because scientists fear retortion, but because science is about knowledge, not righteousness. You might want to ask people interested in philosophy about this. If you can lay aside opinion and subjectivity for a few minutes, type in the magic words in the google scholar search box.
The key here is the fact that people want a more intense experience or a more powerful orgasm.
What they don't realize is that instead of thrusting really hard and frequently if you just tickle a girl's clit and go into her slowly while lifting up her back gently what ends up happening is you excite her neurological system and yours. Anticipation and psychology play a role.
The brain has to make endocannibinoid receptors in the brain. This is why we often don't get high from pot the first time. What can occur if you smoke very infrequently and and in small amounts is an INCREASED sensitivity to weed. You produce more endocannibinoid receptors. What typically ends up happening is that people smoke kush then they smoke more of it and then they try hash or oils. This creates a tolerance which is the opposite direction.
Linking this to sex what ends up happening is that people get into fetishes and weird shit because they have seriously desensitized themselves.
The reason behind why this happens is really simple. Humans want more children and more mates. This translates to doing the same thing never being enough because your evolutionary instinct demands an increase in either the volume or variety of sex.
Dylan Foster
Why argue with a literally retarded person? You think he's even going to see the problem? He doesn't even know how to stop assuming that the things "everyone knows" are bad are bad.
Kevin Torres
Find me a way to become 100% immune to side-effects of abstinence such as prostate cancer and I will do it.
Until then since I have to do it - I'll just also enjoy it because why not?
Evan Gomez
Abstinence is impossible if you're not living the monk life. I'm also not asking you to stay away from masturbating. I will continue to masturbate too. This is not the point of this thread.
Asher Murphy
It's impossible because you associate it in your mind with monk, religious life etc.
Just realize it's all social labels, illusion - and weight the benefits - I would be capable 100% time to do total abstinence if treatments that I required would be available.
Blake Thomas
>I'd like to talk about how sex for enjoyment is degenerated. How is this related to science?
