They used to be fairly dense with information, well explained, and coherent. Now they seem to be filled with irrealavant and distracting fluff that isn't of no use to the student.
I had my cousin over for a visit today, and he had me help him with some of his trig homework. The textbook they were having him read was complete and utter garbage compared to the textbook I had that was published in 84.
Why do they give students today's such shitty textbooks? Why the hell are they still even publishing new editions of books covering basic concepts like trigonometry and calculus? it not like anything has changed between a hundred years ago and now regarding the fundamentals calc, trig, and many other areas of study.
HEY GUYS, LET'S BUILD A CAPITALIST ECONOMIC SYSTEM IN WHICH THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION OF TEXTBOOKS ARE IN THE HANDS OF LARGE COMPANIES AND MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF STUDENTS ARE IN NEED OF TEXTBOOKS EACH YEAR!
GEE, I WONDER WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG!
Nicholas Kelly
The issue isn't capitalism. The issue is the fact school is publicly funded and the free market has zero say in determining matters( such as what textbook to use) as there are no penalties in getting it wrong.
Nathaniel Price
BINGO!
Julian Russell
>Why do they give students today's such shitty textbooks? Why the hell are they still even publishing new editions of books covering basic concepts like trigonometry and calculus? it not like anything has changed between a hundred years ago and now regarding the fundamentals calc, trig, and many other areas of study.
Because parents scream blood murder if they catch their kid using old textbooks. Just look at these articles that makes a big deal over using a textbook with a 1995 copyright.
Quite the opposite. There is no free market system involved in public education instead "mother" state makes all the decisions about what's best. So corrupt politicians are easily swayed to make terrrible decisions. It's essentially a socialist system, thus making your point invalid and rather ignorant. Try watching less CNN and instead learn to think for yourself.
Hudson Russell
>the textbook I had that was published in 84.
You stole your textbook?
Brody Martinez
>all government but the military is bad maymay
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Cameron Martinez
The problem isn't capitalism, it's the profs. They're the ones making the calls w.r.t. books. Some schools/depts are actually very good about keeping the costs down, but not most public unis.
Landon Reed
This. With schools forced to use the latest editions of textbooks, the (((publishers))) like Pearson, McGraw-Hill and Cengage Learning just keep printing the same fucking material and exercises but call it a different edition. And worse, sometimes they take material off the textbook and put it online or in some CD.
Jacob Peterson
I bought it in 83
Leo Bell
My textbook this semester is strictly online and will expire after the class is done.
Because why would I ever want to keep my textbook after I'm done with the class, right?
Right?
Grayson Lewis
Muh free market.
The problem with free market in education is people don't know if they're being educated until they graduate and try to get a job. Note ITT Tech and similar cases. We can't go half and half on government controlled education without it being taken advantage of. At the very least the books should be free. You don't really need the teachers if the book is good.
Kevin Evans
my textbooks are dense as fuck, idk what you're talking about
and you have to know all the material, it's all testable :/
Oliver Flores
Dover books.
Jace Howard
>Trigonometry >Textbook >Not deriving all of trig from basic axioms
Austin Barnes
policy makers can't understand why our childrens isn't learning so they gradually dumb what they're looking for in a textbook down
Joshua Wood
we switched from quality-focused teaching programs to "no child left behind" bullshit, where money is thrown at unmotivated retards
Aiden Barnes
massive government contracts fuel the textbook industry. Government then forces all departments to use new editions )solely from the company they made the deal with) every year. Definitely some great free market competition going on there with all the right incentives in place
Thomas Torres
this
Liam Roberts
this book was published in 1975
Nathan Campbell
>free market solves everything, including school curriculum Top fucking lel. You know you're dealing with an Amurriclap when you hear bullshit like that.
Matthew Sanders
I'm surprised they are even able to fill a whole book with just trig.
Joshua Adams
I think these people are complaining the physical copies of the textbooks are old, not that th copyright is old. There's a difference.
Of course, because of how lucrative the textbook industry is it often ends up that old copyright automatically equals old textbook, but in theory, a textbook could be perfectly new but have an old copyright.
I'm not sure why schools insist on using the latest editions of textbooks other than that it simply becomes harder to obtain old editions since the editors no longer print them, but the industry needs to be reeled in. Selling first year college textbooks guarantees an insane profit margin and it essentially holds the student captive since problems in lower division classes are often assigned out of the book.
Aaron Price
(((i see nothing wrong with this)))
Aaron Evans
What the heck do you talk about in a trigonometry textbook? How the heck do you find enough material for that?
Oliver Perry
>Selling first year college textbooks guarantees an insane profit margin and it essentially holds the student captive since problems in lower division classes are often assigned out of the book. Don't even get started with fucking online homework codes. These essentially force you to buy not only the newest edition of the book, but a new COPY of the book, because if you buy a used copy, you sure as hell know it's not going to have a usable access code. I will never understand why professors assign (or are forced to assign) this garbage online homework. If they assigned paper homework, they could hire a few more TA's and give them plenty of busywork, plus the students wouldn't have to spend hundreds of dollars just so they can get a grade in the fucking course.
Wyatt Kelly
That's why true intellectuals only read Dover texts.
Lucas Jones
Because the entire education system is designed to produce compliance, not intelligence.
James Cruz
You can thank the generations of people complaining that mathematics should be taught from a real world common sense perspective instead of formally and abstractly.
Isaiah Flores
>education industry is literally an entertainment industry >people still falling for it muh jobs
Self lobotomizing for handouts from the oligarchs
Its time to rise up and overthrow the system. Eat the elite. Literally consume their flesh for sustenance. It is the only way.
John Wright
>go to physics class EM field and Magnetic field >calculating the capacitance, electric potential, E field of retarded things >get Feynman's book >"I will into delve this because it's machine work and here, have how thunderstorms work!" It's just a matter of doing it right.
Christopher King
I think the real issue is that the writers simply don't know how to write a book.
Samuel Perry
It's probably got something to do with the jews.
Aaron Lee
Except the same design model applies to private universities and just about any other place of higher learning. In fact, it is precisely because publishers know that they can large 'deals' by simply convincing a school (regardless of how it's funded) to use their textbook that they purposely cycle through 'new editions' while enticing prospective teachers with personal book gifts, support, etc. It's ridiculous to blame a public school system for what is a clear consequence of an out of control profit-motive.
Indeed, but often times they get their 'slice of cake' for picking out the latests edition. A lot of them are also influenced by publishers insistence that they need the latest product due to inclusion of digital/online features not available in the past.
>The fact that politicians are corrupted by corporate money and the millions spent on lobbying firms and the like >shows public institutions are at fault, not the corporate heads paying for and promoting the lobbying/corruption Gotta love this fallacy.
Blake Edwards
The best freshman professors are the one's who don't assign homework period and just give out suggested problems to practice for exams. Teaches self learning, and forces you learn how to motivate yourself to learn.
Gavin Fisher
>all government but the military is bad maymay >A bunch of flunkie lawyers whose sole claim to fame is being a smoother talker than their opponent has the education and knowledge necessary to make decisions on a child's education and upbringing.
Nolan Sanders
It's not like departments have unlimited funds to pay for TA hours. Most universities are actually moving to pay fewer hours, which causes a labor shortage that leads to instructors being forced to adopt things like online assignments and other horseshit.