Was there anything this piece of shit got right?

>communism is a philosophical model

>Marx was not a philosopher
What the fuck do you think he was?

An economist?

when will the neo-liberal shitposting stop

>Was there anything this piece of shit got right?
Near everything he said. He's almost more prophet than philosopher.

love how rightwing troll got basically everyone agreeing that Marx is actually pretty accurate, lol

was it bait? we will never know

You're misusing 3rd world again.

Is communism still a threat?
Why does the right spend so much time talking about it?
Is this anything but sport or diversion at this point?

>Is communism still a threat?
>Why does the right spend so much time talking about it?
>Is this anything but sport or diversion at this point?

How to show everyone that you know nothing about politics.

He was right about everything.

Other people have been exploiting his name since his death

>now their communist manifesto is the most printed work ever
what's your point?

Is Hillary a communist? Or the Jews that run the world? Or are we afraid of China or third world shitholes?

I'm being serious.

All of hillarys role models are commies. All "moderates" hold the deep rooted philisopgical positions that innevitably bring one to believe in communism. Whether they know it or not. Marxist influence is everywhere.

kek.
commies hate moderates just as much as they hate fascists, and moderates hate commies too.

Socialism is a gateway drug for communism

I thought Hillary was a neoliberal globalist.

Is she going hand over the means of production to the public once she is in office? What's the incentive for those backing her, those pumping money into her campaign?

>All "moderates" hold the deep rooted philisopgical positions that innevitably bring one to believe in communism. Whether they know it or not. Marxist influence is everywhere.
s8 spooky m8. nice reasoning.

>public

You mean government, right? Hand over the means of production to the government. Because the public handling the means of productions sounds capitalistic.

I was under the impression that under socialism the public owns the means of production, and under communism the government owns them.

Ok so, where is the benefit, for the capitalists, supporting her if she will get in the way of running their business or seize it entirely?

Oh, and under capitalism private companies own the means of production.

I'm not one of the previous guys, I was just clarifying what you meant by what you posted.

Hillary is a corporatist, if Bernie was about to be elected into office then we'd have to worry about communism.

I agree with your assessment of Hillary, but I don't think Bernie is any different from her - after all, he is backing her now, that fearless revolutionary.

Bernie was a populist flavored stalking horse for the same corporate powers that control Hillary. Even when he was in the race, he never really challenged her or forced her to changer he policies or stuck to any mass traction economic demands. Plus he pounced on every mush head liberal cause that doesn't really deserve the focus of a presidential campaign, like gays, trannies, wage gap, dead blacks, feminism, etc.

He was right that capital is an autonomous force which humans participate in, rather than create.

His theory of class and class interests is insightful, although his theory of class consciousness is basically just magic (and not in the good way).

His labor theory of value is simply retarded, though, and unfortunately no communist apologia is able to rescue it AFAIK.

His ideas provided an ideological basis for defining and imposing revolution on the proletariat by the intellectuals.

Kind of funny, but I always see "they imagine themselves the rulers" ascribed to NRx, but this is quite literally what Marxism was all about.

You should read "Critique of the Gotha Program"
Its like "fuck moderate socialism" by Marx

omg

you dont have a fucking clue. lol

I guess that proves...capitalism js unfair?

What the fuck did Newton get right?

>He was right that capital is an autonomous force which humans participate in, rather than create.

That's not exactly true. He wasn't that smart.

COMMODITY FETISHISM

very funny post ever

almost everything.
>His labor theory of value is simply retarded
it seems pretty logical to me

This man was a Jew who created a political system that would advance the Jewish agenda. He was in the Rothschilds pockets all along.

How can Veeky Forums be so politically illiterate.

nice argument

he wrote books in the teenage angst category

>His labor theory of value is simply retarded, though, and unfortunately no communist apologia is able to rescue it AFAIK.
Explain this shit

>His labor theory of value is simply retarded, though, and unfortunately no communist apologia is able to rescue it AFAIK.
(this is not true btw)
it is controversial among communists though, but there are a number of strong positions which you can google yourself

>class analysis of history, historical materialism
>right

>anime poster
>doesn't have an accurate understanding of historical materialism
wew
read this you little cuck, it's a decent introduction
sociology.fas.nyu.edu/docs/IO/225/What_is_living_and_what_is_dead_in_the_marxist_theory_of_history.pdf

He raised some very good questions about standards of lower classes as they were starving while their bosses glutted themselves.
He passively did some good by creating a movement which forced capitalist governments to make needed changes I.e. The liberal reforms.
However. He passively caused millions of deaths by creating an ideology that fundamentally doesn't work.

Also anyone have the meme where marx is sliding due to the communist states nit being true marxists

He wrote some good young adult fiction desu

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>He passively caused millions of deaths by >creating an ideology that fundamentally >doesn't work.

Such a Dumb statement

besides true Communism has never been practiced.
Of course it would work if properly implemented.
It would be like a fucking Utopia but theres no way any of the shit for brains running anything could get it right especially any of the dummys who Vocally advocate.

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GOAT coming thru

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understanding politics is a character flaw

Look mom, I can do ad hominem as well!

>Capitalism back in 1492 and 1500

This is facebook tier.

>I know nothing about business administration and have no money on the line but I should get paid as much as the CEO

>>I know nothing about business administration and have no money on the line but I should get paid as much as the CEO
>he thinks anyone should be paid as much as a CEO
>he thinks a CEOs job is more difficult than a factory workers to the extent that they deserve anything more than a slight pay raise at most

>He thinks CEO and factory jobs have the same amount of competition, complexity, and importance to the company.

Yeah, CEOs are unimportant and should be replaced with AI

We don't have AI that can perform to a CEO's standard yet. When we do, I grantee they will be replaced. But you know who we can replace? Factory workers, as soon as it becomes cheaper to put the machines in place, they will be replaced.

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"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." -Winston Churchill

Look at your life now.

What's easier.

Becoming a CEO or a factory worker? If the former, then by all means go ahead, but if you're the later (like most people who would spend their time on a malaysian tricot image board), then I think that's a good reason you gave there to support worker ownership of the means of production (what's more commonly known as communism)

Do you think that there would be a site like this, that only a tiny fraction of the population use, under communism? Do you honestly believe that personal computers, if they were for some reason determined necessary, would be nearly as advanced as the ones the average american enjoys?

Winston Churchill looks exactly like the fat capitalist to the right, he's a walking stereotype

"That is a feel good catchphrase that we're supposed to respect because you're appealing to the authority of a imperialist tyrant responsible for at least as many deaths as Stalin (see famines in English India and Burma)"

-user

what a great picture to explain surplus value.

I've seen thousands of threds on Marx, but people don't even know what is surplus value. Such a basic concept.

How dare he eat when he wants!
It's a good quote that conveys the message in an neat way. Sue me.

>Implying imperialism is bad.
It's nations doing what's best for their citizens. You know, the exact thing nations are supposed to do.

It doesn't convey anything it's just wrong. Inequality is far from the worst flaw in capitalism for one.

Apparently factory jobs are pretty important if strikes are so bad for a company. And sorry I didnt know difficulty was measured in whether or not a machine can do it, I guess we have computers coordinating missile guidance and satellites because those are simple tasks. Of course managing a large corporation, or an operation of any kind, is going to be complex and potentially difficult. But is it so much more difficult than a random workers job that it requires 1000x times the pay? Even if they had a job as difficult as 50 of their workers they would still be paid absurdly more than is necessary for the amount of labor. And even as a communist I also think Labor Theory of Value is bullshit, this critique still applies even recognizing that.

He got the starving his own children to death part right because he was too lazy to work.

Why wouldn't them?

He lost one child due to hipotermia.

How exactly was Churchill responsible for deaths from famine in Burma??

Did he orchestrate agricultural policies which were directly responsible for those deaths? Did he deport and execute in mass graves Burmese peasants?

I'm sure you're the kind of guy who would count road deaths as "victims of capitalism" because capitalism allows for people to own cars. Go KYS.

Do you mean hypothermia?

>he was too lazy to work

Nigger just look at his fucking output and consider the man spent days and days researching documents and tell me he didn't "work".

You're probably some fucking NEET, at best you have a mid school teaching job

yeah that.

He was poor as fuck.
But that wasn't that uncomon among workers.

Businesses are going to do the thing that nets the most money for their owners. Do you think that they pay anyone, the CEO included, anymore then they have too? CEOs get as much they do because of a small pool of qualified people are applying, and the importance of their work. And I'm not against workers leveraging their power, the factor market needs to strive to be at equilibrium as well.
Because they are consumer goods.

>Marx
>worker

TOP FUCKING KEK

He would have made such a great street Santa

"Consumer good" is not a fixed metaphysical position. A product is only a "consumer good" in a given mode of production. If computer tech advance is neccessary it will be advanced under feudalism, theocracy or any other form of government.

He wasn't a wageslave.
but he did work a lot.

The term "worker" implies industrial worker. Marx was the modern day equivalent of a trust fund babby "discovering himself"

How can any self respecting white man follow the beliefs of a disgusting jew

but he was discovering the capital.

>Did he orchestrate agricultural policies which were directly responsible for those deaths?
Yes.

And why would a personal computer, and for that matter, Veeky Forums, be necessary under in communism?

All right, list them. And by "agricultural policies", I don't mean grain seizures to fund the war effort. I mean direct policies, implemented during peace time, which led to millions of deaths.

to add value to things?
work less, have fun ?

t. Christian

>Veeky Forums
>fun
NORMIES LEAVE I COME HERE TO BE MISERABLE NOT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME

What do you mean comrade? There are seeds to plant and roads to build, it is ridiculous to devote an entire building to such a trivial thing as fun!

Computers would be necessary for the same shit they are now.

Veeky Forums would be just as useless