What's Veeky Forums's opinion on Cure-all supplements?

What's Veeky Forums's opinion on Cure-all supplements?

Do they work? Are they harmless? Whats the science behind them?

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Placebos. They're allowed to be sold with vague medical claims because it's a huge industry with lobbyists. Fake medicine is always dangerous because it confuses and demotivates people who need medicine that actually works.

They can also cause things like Hypervitaminosis because people don't realize it's possible to overdose on Vitamin A, B6, etc.

If something isn't regulated, has no oversight, it's probably bogus for the most part. Without strict regulations, most of these supplements are just a waste of money, as there's no reason to have true quality control. Not to mention many supplements do not have a strong basis in peer-reviewed studies.

My mom takes so many bullshit supplements, she dumps thousands of dollars into buying bullshit "super food" pills every single year. No matter what I do, no matter what I tell her she refuses to listen to it. Fuck this new age bullshit.

how likely is it to die from excessive consumption of minerals?

It will suck if someone on my family dies from consuming these things, but I would hope that people around them will realize how these things are dangerous and should not be approached.

>Whats the science behind them?
The science is that people have systematically figured out that as long as your marketing is solid enough, there's always a whole group of people that will buy your shit. It doesn't matter how insane your profit margin is, people won't question your bullshit as long as you give them a comfortable breeding ground for their irrational beliefs.

>literally every single one of these supplements is bogus.
Wrong.
Maybe 25% of them are.

The FDA is the last thing we need "regulating" this industry.
The FDA is controlled by the pharmaceutical industry.

>any criticism against these products come from people who are working for the enemy industry.

Their whole marketing campaign is based around this. "Doctor's are against you, don't spend your money on them, spend your money on us!"

Holy shit it seems like this whole thread is filled with shills.

Define "cure all" supplement, OP. You fucking idiot. There are countless supplements on the market that do many different things.

Go suck le 2016 man John Oliver's dick you dumb piece of shit.

>>any criticism against these products come from people who are working for the enemy industry.
No, but most of it is.

The reason this industry is so big is because people don't trust big pharma and rightfully so.

>"Doctor's are against you
Most of the time they are.
Do you enjoy ritalin, SSRIs, Plavix, fluoroquinolones etc

The AMA and FDA are monopolies, they have no reason to be accountable to the public. The american medical system is a joke.

>Define "cure all" supplement, OP.

In the case of Youngevity, the claim is that you can cure things like cancer, diabetes and of course obesity if you take enough minerals, like calcium and selenium, and even increase your lifespan, if you detoxify yourself.

>In the case of Youngevity, the claim is that you can cure things like cancer, diabetes and of course obesity if you take enough minerals, like calcium and selenium, and even increase your lifespan, if you detoxify yourself.
That's idiotic.

But there are still far better supplement companies out there with medical studies backing their products.

About 25% of these supplements probably don't work.

You need to take about 3 mg/day to get Vitamin A toxicity. This can be as little as four supplement pills. It's different for different vitamins. What's especially dangerous is that when people start getting sick from taking too many supplements they usually think it's caused by something else then try to solve it by taking a handful of supplements.

I know a guy who took them and ended up getting cancer, I'm never touching those things.

thats anecdotal user, you're gonna need some evidence for us to accept your claim :^)

There are no cure-all supplements. Anything that claims to be one is is overpriced placebo.

Vitamin pills, however, can indeed be beneficial. It just so happens that people have no idea what they do and how much they should take. About hypervitaminosis, i have been working on a pharmacy for 7 years and my father for his whole working life and none of us have ever seen nor heard of any cases of the sort. Worst that happens is leaving the ordeal with a lighter wallet.

tl;dr: supplements are very useful as long as you know what the fuck you are doing.

what if i take multivitamins?

would you say people need calcium supplements?

Eh. You will be fine. It takes A LOT of pills for someone to suffer hypervitaminosis. Granted, unless you are taking pills under prescription, it probably will have no effect at all.
Multivitamins are the majority of supplements my pharmacy sells, so you are on safe ground as long as you don't go way above the recommended daily usage.

I dare not generalize. Calcium is a very important mineral but also can be found on a lot of product you would never assume to contain it.
Do keep in mind, however, that it does not take a lot for calcium overusage, and that can be very detrimental on the long run. Take care, keep your eyes open for side-effects. Also visit a specialist as soon as possible to know if that kind of diet is good for you.

but do i need multivitamins in all likelihood? the government told us to take vitamin d supplements, what other ones do people get deficiencies in commonly?

>Do you enjoy ritalin, SSRIs, Plavix, fluoroquinolones etc
This shit actually works unlike vitamins.

Do you need multivitamins? No. If you needed them you would not have any doubts about it.
Are they useful? Yes, sure. I definitely recommend them.
Are they necessary? For any modern urban person, by no means. Keep in mind your ancestors lived with a diet that contained a fraction of what you consume on your daily grind and didn't suffer any from it on most cases. Also don't be distressed if you cannot afford to take them once or twice, you likely won't suffer any from it.

>what other ones do people get deficiencies in commonly?

Also about that, most "essential vitamins" are really arbitrary substances that will have no effect, neither negative nor positive, on your body when consumed through supplements.
If you are taking your supplements, then you are all set already. Just make sure to check up on your doctor whenever you can.

Also you two really should not be taking health advice from Veeky Forums. In fact, if you REALLY have to take internet health advice, take it from webmd.com, it is a lot safer that way.

are there any vitamins that aren't just memes or marketing scams?

I've been taking one-a-day since I was like 19

people on Veeky Forums aren't that bad are they?

If you aren't deficient then taking vitamins won't do anything for you. It is quite likely that you're deficient in vitamin B12 and D3 if you live in a northern country and/or work inside.

our ancestors were 5 ft manlets though that wouldn't be able to get ripped. like really short marathon runners.

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Most aren't, but you cannot afford to risk.