Whats proper bar etiquette?

You sound like a fucking sperg who never leaves his house.

Tipping was started in bars, To Insure Promptness. Pay people in service industries a little more money and they start doing more for you.

Where the fuck do you live?

NJ

are you gay or something mate?

in which countries exactly?
you shouldn't hire lazy shits that has no work ethic anyways.
good workers don't need a tipping system

really love your style, skip thinking alltogether and just go straight up for insults without knowing anything about the situation.

Do you tip your cashier and janitor too?

A whole state full of assholes. I'd move desu

bars are miserable. the only other people there are lonely losers like you, or a group of happy friends

Cashiers and Janitors make minimum wage. People who serve alcohol typically don't.

The dive bar by me is the best, people tweaking from meth, people falling asleep on the bar from heroin and literally steps away from the beach and casinos.

Sounds oddly comfy like somewhere a gondola would be

Hi, Charles Bukowski, I thought you had died!

I was kinda scared to go in there at first turns out it's pretty comfy

Move down a few seats.

Beautiful thing about bars is, there is an understanding that this is your time to do you. For every person who just needs to chill out, there's two loudmouths that want your companionship and they want it now. Which is a function of a bar, but you are not in the wrong to just move.

Then it's up to the bar staff to handle it. You're a paying customer. Granted, they will not interfere unless you're really getting fucked with, but that will be a subtle gesture.

Between you and me, user, I hate those fucking people

what's the point of "minimum wage" if it's not actually a minimum?

Does he live in Atlantic city too?

Well bartenders and waiters should stand up for this shit if they're really not making minimum wage, instead of relying on customers to fix their issues.

also they do make minimum wage as I have friends who work as waiters. They just enjoy getting those 100+ bonuses on the daily.

>go to school
>everyone tells you to fuck off
>go to public spaces
>everyone tells you to fuck off
>go to work
>everyone tells you to fuck off
>go to the bar
>everyone tells you to fuck off

Jeez, no wonder there's so many school shooting these days.

When did America become a hive of introvert autists who sit at the bar all day and stare and wish life turned out different? I don't honestly get it.

Nah, he was an LA fag.

>Cashiers and Janitors make minimum wage. People who serve alcohol typically don't.
webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm

>If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the Federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.

Bars have always seemed weird to me, especially if its not busy. If its busy, its easy to just go watch a game and bullshit with however you are sitting next to, but if it isn't, wouldn't it just be better to drink at home alone? Why go to a bar and just sit in silence staring at nothing while paying for overpriced alcohol?

>Going to bars alone.

I could see older people, 35 and above maybe doing this to meet other singles. Young people I feel think it's kind of pathetic unless you're some vlogger or some shit.

>Can't make friends without going out
>Can't go out without making friends

Hope you're all enjoying the society of NEETs you're slowly building.

>To Insure Promptness
>Insure Promptness
>Insure
>not ensure
This was an acronym made up after the fact, evidently by someone illiterate.

In case you hadn't noticed, any metro area of any size at all has multiple shootings, robberies, rapes, carjackings, thefts, assaults and molestations every single, fucking day. Couple that with the fact that the individual is raped by the medico-pharma-insurance industries for a return of 37th ranked healthcare system in the world, corporations are given a free hand to run over the individual like a knife through butter, kids attempting to get a 4 year degree are saddled with $150,000 debt or more, a war budget greater than the next 30 highest defense spending countries combined, and you see why the US is a damn grim place. Naturally that spills over to cause an antisocial psyche among the citizens.

stare down into your drink and grunt whenever a response is required. don't look around too much and definitely don't make eye contact if you want to be left alone

This is one of the most honest posts I've ever seen on Veeky Forums.

Stop being so fucking autistic and enjoy your surroundings.

tip a dollar per drink and two if it's hard to make

Please go back to pol

>go to Veeky Forums
>everyone tells you to fuck off

pottery

Good tips

Typically if you're doing so poorly on tips or are so slow that you cannot make up that difference and are asking your employer to make it up, they'll just fire you rather than pay that

wait, how do the employers keep track of tips?
also how can a minimum wage be that low anyways?
i don't even know anyone who has ever gotten anywhere near that little

You have to report how much you're making in tips when you finish a table.

this.

I tip my fedora to you, good sir

I'm 21 and I go out alone sometimes when my friends are busy or broke/being cheap fags, if local I usually run into people I know.

If you tip for every drink, you might get buybacks depending on the bar/bartender.

I always tip the bartender at the local place I go to and he gives me my third drink for free.

You go to Rutgers, bro?

insure and ensure have been used interchangeably in english for quite some time, user.

They really haven't, they have distinct and different meanings.

All words are interchangeable when you're a fucking illiterate like that jerk off.

>Open thread hoping for bar stories.
>End up reading about American tipping etiquette for the at least the 50th time in my life.

Ways Veeky Forums beats you down?

why go to a bar if you want to be by yourself?

are you married and trying to avoid your wife and kids?

Don't put that guy on a pedal stool user. Maybe he has old-timer's disease and gets words confused easily.

fuck off

he tells the truth and you tell him to leave?

why tho?

you must like being lied to

>doesn't into wrongful dismissal legislation
The only reason poor people let this slide is because they don't realise their legal high ground.

But why in the fuck do you accept that the employer deducts your tips from your wages in the first place? That's just asini...
Oh, american. Carry on.

Hold up two fingers but ask for 5 beers.

Tell them you're Roman.

Damn was she ballin doe?

>old timers
Ik its a joke and I'm not gonna lie it was pretty funny

>why go to a bar if you want to be by yourself?
This.

You don't need bar etiquette OP so much, just need to understand that talking to someone is kind of interesting and should pass your time while you drink or dine alone. Don't put all your angst out there to not find the person not worth your time if they aren't a hottie. So, just need to know how to handle attention in a respectful way. As a female, you should know what I know, about not being rude to strangers when you "reject" them.
1) If you wish to talk with others, sit at the bar. You can undoubtably at least feel like your bartender is your friend/companion with an occasional chat as they work their other customers. Ask for menu advice, whether dinner or drinks. Talk about some shit related to alcohol, the weather, the new place you discovered. Compliment them on something if you find they are aloof. They should treat you well, like a great waiter would, that when they are with you it is undivided. They can get GREAT tips.
If you wish to be alone, request a table, and occasional go up to the bar and order, and side up between people you DO wish to talk to, and maybe just sit down a moment while you order, so if they do talk to you for doing that, ohhhkay, but if they don't, whatevs, you weren't staying.
2) If someone sits next to you at a bar that you don't like, just welcome them, oh hey, let me move over one, you stay there!, I'm expecting a friend, want to save a seat, blahblah. Anything you want if you don't like their appearance, or proximity.
3) If someone talks to you, and you just don't give a damn, but polite. But, nothing precludes you from being an exceptionally good conversationalist. Just take it easy on the comebacks, or digging questions. "Ohhh, that sucks" and then be silent. And, if they talk more and more, just nod. And, eventually they should just find you boring. If you need to excuse yourself to the bathroom a moment, kind of chat to/fro and move.

4) If you go often enough, you will make some polite acquaintances/ friends, provided you aren't a jerk even once, or seen being disrespectful to any employees or other regulars. Don't ever be impatient with bar staff, and give that big thank you, with some eye contact and a grateful smile.
5) One way to not feel a loser alone is to go on band nights, like you're just a hardcore metalhead or whatever kind of bar it is. Those people will always show when their friends band is up, and you'll see regulars that way.
6) Another thing is figure out in your town which is the slow or happening night somewhere, like wing night, or a trivia night. You'll eventually figure out which has a vibe and crowd that pleases your comfort level best. There are a lot of sorryass bad bars that seem to only stay in business because of something nefarious going on in the back room, but have rude as shit employees, high turnover, bad, really bad food that is never cooked right. Skip those places. A restaurant that is also a bar is a good middle ground. The bar that is close to the courthouse is usually a bit classy, haha. Like me you might prefer being around people who aren't just drunks, but intellectuals who handle their booze okay, but don't like to drink alone at home. I guess...

Anyway, know that being alone can make you more approachable and actually lead to having a better experience sometimes than with your friends.

The Charlie face is really the best answer.

Otherwise, you could excuse yourself and move to a different seat, or pay your bill and leave... or try to outweird her, but that's 50/50 at best.

North or South?

>Excuse me, but I don't want anything to do with this. I'm just here for a drink.

>$1 per drink
You mean $1 per mixed drink. I'm not going to tip someone for pouring a beer.

No. Fuck no. If you don't want to tip, go live in France. We tip here in the states.

but you tip here, in France

you have to look at the history of it. certain service workers were paid a regular (albeit low) wage and received tips. the practice became standard and it was deemed unnecessary to pay those employees a regular wage because john q. public was just going to tip them anyway. the minimum wage for service jobs that receive tips is lower to account for the public subsidization

no buybacks 4u then

so the French tip?

And is there a quick guide for tipping in Europe? My most recent experience was Ireland and I didn't see anyone tipping at the bar so I didn't tip.

europe isn't a country, it's different from where you are

in France you tip only when you leave
in Italy you don't tip
for the rest I don't know

did u faggots really need to turn this into tipping?

No shit. I meant like a quick chart for all the countries.

Tipping is generally done when you leave with food and per drink at bars in the US. So explain the French process a little further to me please.

>going to the bar by yourself

just get a six pack and drink at home for cheaper

>So explain the French process a little further to me please.
it's simple, you tip only once when you leave and you don't tip when you're just in a tiny popular bar you only tip when there's actual service

>implying I'm buying multiple drinks at a bar instead of pregaming
>implying I frequent any one bar enough for a bartender to know me
>implying I give a fuck

i do that after going to the bar

Drink a bunch, you'll figure the rest out later
Start with concerts with bars, places you don't care about being thrown out, etc

I pregame too, but I still tend to have 3+ drinks at the bar. Also, you sound like a giant douchebag.

At-will employment friendo. You have no legal high ground in most states.

>legal high ground
what are they gonna do, sue? I don't know many unemployed waiters who can afford an attorney.

also this

>waitstaff doesn't make minimum wage

When will Trump kill this meme?

If their tips do not make up the difference between their normal wage and minimum wage, then their employer makes up the difference.

that's kind of like saying "if the posted speed limit is 55, the average traffic speed is 55"

I don't know why people think reality works this way

ironically you probably are over in /k/ arguing that gun laws don't work because people can break them

Why would you tip a bartender? It's an even easier job than being a waiter

I don't feel sorry for someone who gets screwed over by his or her boss, illegally, and just takes it like a little bitch.

Little bitches deserve to be treated like little bitches.

Because when there's one bartender for a 40 foot bar and 100 customers are jostling for service, being that guy who didn't tip guarantees that you'll get "accidentally" ignored for about 20 minutes

>100 customers
>barkeep will know who throw the crumpled dollar bill on the bar

You wouldn't go to such a shit bar in the first place

...

>he thinks tipping for a drink works like that
Come back to this thread when you're old enough to drink
>I've never been to a beachfront bar
>I only go to le mysterious silent gentleman's bars
Ok

Well obviously a criminal doesn't care for laws. It's so simple a caveman can get it.

Have a tab, tip at end of night in credit card
>don't tip

what kind of 3rd world country do you live in where that actually happens?
how the fuck did the bartender get hired with a workethic like that?

Anyone here ever been kicked out of a bar? I have a few times.

Anyways, I go to bars alone on occasion. One time I went to my local dive and met a qt who was there drinking alone and nearly in tears because she just found out she could never get pregnant. Got her drunk enough and went back to my place and I fucked her bareback. No idea why she was at that bar since she lived on the opposite side of the city.

this, unless im in a bar with barely any people in it (and to be honest i probably wouldnt be in the bar if that were the case) i constantly have to wait for drinks no matter what i tip so i stopped

reminder that tipping isnt required and that anyone who argues for it is a greedy entitled kike