Does anyone have new elf-related literature to recommend?
Carson Powell
i kek'd
Cooper Hall
>noldor >not "sons of feanor"
Luke Cox
I don't remember if Wizard of Earthsea has elves or an equal to elves. But I plan on reading that.
Aiden Reed
Posted this in the old thread because I'm a dumbass I guess
I'm looking for books with similar settings to China Mieville's and Zeno Clash's (PC game). Does anyone know of anything that fits the really weird, ugly and dirty aesthetic that those have?
Henry Scott
Maybe try the Craft Series? I've only read the first one, but it's similar to Mielville in tone and setting.
Alexander Cook
>the Craft Series By Max Gladstone? Google gives me ambiguous results when I google it
Lincoln Collins
Yeah that's the one
Oliver Ortiz
Are there any fantasy series written by female authors with female protagonists whom aren't mary sues?
Jackson Sanders
>female authors
Why do you want to read trash?
Justin Morgan
I don't, I was just curious because every single one I've seen has been the author writing herself as the protagonist
Alexander Rogers
Kushiel's Dart.
Problem is that a lot, probably half or more, of fantasy is for the YA market, meaning that regardless of author gender it's going to trite power fantasies, combined with the higher amount of romance elements in fantasy. This is far less common in the science fiction arena.
Daniel Adams
More like trash general.
The reason why fantasy authors do write fantasy is because it's easy. Throw couple of elves here, some wizards there, add a bit of muh chosen one and muh epic adventures... Voila, there you go.
Parker Sullivan
Sherri S. Tepper - Beauty Leigh Brackett - Sea Kings of Mars Hope Mirrlees - Lud-in-the-Mist Patricia McKillip - Riddle-Master series Ursula le Guin - Earthsea series
Good female authors are rare these days, mostly because >muh YA
Oliver Cruz
Anyone here read Riyria? I'm 100 pages into Theft of Swords and I want to know if it gets better, so far it's rather bland and generic. A Lankhmar premise in a setting that's a Tolkien ripoff.
Adrian Allen
Reading the Malazan series right now. Currently on Deadhouse Gates and loving the series thus far.
But does anyone feel like the books are written for the amusement of the author himself and not for an audience? I feel like the books frequently reference places, events and creatures and doesn't slow down to (sometimes ever) explain them to the reader. Like, I've had to put down the book and look shit up online multiple times for Deadhouse Gates, and other times I simply cruise past it hoping there's an explanation somewhere down the road.
One example: what the fuck are rhizar? As far as I can tell its some kind of little winged creature but the book literally NEVER explains what they are. Why? Was it just poorly edited?
Connor Edwards
>"Now that I have slain my editor, none shall oppose me!" says gun-wielding fantasy author on roof of publishing house
Carter Morales
What's your favourite fantasy universe?
Jack Diaz
King of Elflands daughter Lord Dunsany
Chase Fisher
"The Land" of Thomas Covenant fame.
Jason Taylor
Heh. I was thinking of how to post that while differentiating from JRR.
But the Land has original charm as much as derivative. From the sunbane backwards through the sacrifice of Saltheart Foamfollower, every fantasy fan should try it if only to dismiss it.
Chase Johnson
I think the Land remains derivative only in Lord Foul's Bane, and afterward it is its own entity, and rightly so.
Fuck yeah Saltheart Foamfollower!
Wyatt Rogers
How you holdin' up, Veeky Forums?
Tyler Wright
Thomas Covenant is in many ways more ambitious than LotR IMO.
Christopher Taylor
reading fiction to take my mind off how much I've fucked up my life
yourself?
Jace Evans
Reading Wheel of Time because some chick I'm trying to get into is into it.
Wyatt Wood
You should drop it. It's a waste of time, it's only there for entertainment and you aren't entertained.
Logan Morris
I feel like rereading something tomorrow. Should I do The Magicians trilogy or Anathem? I'm pretty torn tbqh.
Angel Cook
The latter, Magicians is awful.
Benjamin Thompson
That's the theme of his writing style. He never stops to handhold the reader. Some people can appreciate that, but personally I find that there's a limit to it until it becomes a flaw. People say the books get better when you re-read them, but fuck that. I didn't like how all the interesting stuff happens "off-screen" as well.
The characters are top tier tho, was the only thing that kept me going really.
Joseph Peterson
>Reading Wheel of Time because some chick I'm trying to get into is into it. Literally the only reason I read it. Biggest waste of time ever but it only took like 2 months to read the whole thing
Nicholas Perez
You didn't get to fuck her I assume?
Leo White
nope
Jose Hernandez
What, you tried the same thing as me and it didn't work? Shit nigga, I'm off to a bad start
Landon Rodriguez
>Don't know how to start a Opening chapter on a Fantasy novel
Lincoln Miller
write your prologue first
Zachary White
Prologue is going to be rather misleading then
Hunter Butler
doesn't matter, your prologue only needs to begin to make sense by book 3
Tyler Parker
Just fix it in the next draft.
James Hill
I don't mind power fantasies, escapism is fun for all.
But holy shit, some female mcs are beyond mary sueish.
Like, okay, we got it, you want to have women characters too, yay good for you, but for crying out loud. This shit's cringey.
Connor Ramirez
Look at female protagonist
Jose Lewis
Everything is explained, he just isn't Sanderson tier explanations.
The first book you are dropped into the middle of everything, it's closer to the end that everything becomes clear. If your memory is so short that shit you read at the start of the book is already forgotten, then I suggest you drop Malazan now.
Rhizar are winged lizard like creatures... it was in the book, you didn't have to google anything.
It's pg 13 all the way through, though not YA. If you are used to gri/edgy, then you will be sorely disappointed. I enjoyed the big reveal, and the tying together of plots at the end. I also enjoyed revelations, and the chronicles, but the new series was just shitty to me.
Jordan Rodriguez
jesus christ whatever you do don't read anything under 'female urban fantasy protagonist'
Adrian Thomas
>Greywalker >Skinwalker >Dead Witch Walking
Why do they like walking so much?
Jeremiah Sanders
>Gay, Rape & Incest only has six titles
this needs to be rectified
Michael Kelly
Great series man, I'd recommend it
Dylan Lewis
Which one is the gay book anyway?
Charles Reyes
posting it again because I like annoying people
Dominic Robinson
more time rectumfied
Gavin Gray
bakker has plenty of gay, rape, and gay rape, but no incest
grrm has gay and incest
can't speak for the rest
Dylan Phillips
Bakker has plenty of incest and GRRM has plenty of rape.
GRI books have all three.
Ryder Cooper
shit /v/ are talking about us
Camden Hughes
/v/ has been here for ages, who do you think brings up Sanderson and Bakker all the time?
Evan Morgan
Any of them have lesbian incest?
Connor Watson
I don't want edgy, I just don't want "dwarves are builders, Elves are long lived"
Angel King
Tfw can't find the second book either in library, half price book store but fuck barnes and nobles. I have the the first, 3rd and 4th book. Anyone a good site for piriting it?
Michael James
I fucking bought the entire set after so many glowing reviews.
Hated it after the 5th book I think. Forced myself to finish it. Regret it so much.
Caleb Hall
>tfw bought 9/10 of them at around $2 each. I'm still missing Bonehunters. Thankfully, based local library had it.
Liam Martin
You lucky bastard. How do you like the series so far? Hopefully it doesn't go to shit like The Wheel Of Time did.
Henry King
Honestly not bad. The tongue-in-cheek tone is just right for this general.
I think it should also cover KSR, Stephenson, and Iain M Banks though.
This is also pretty much exclusively "space scifi," which is fine, but maybe it should be acknowledged as such.
Andrew Watson
Only covered stuff I've read, but Steph & Banks are in my headlights
Colton Sanchez
>Does anyone have new elf-related literature to recommend? Tad Williams' Memory Sorrow and Thorn has a basket full of Elves.
Ryder Morris
I liked Trudi Canavan's Black Magician trilogy but I'm sure somebody probably thinks Sonea is a mary sue just cause she does normal protagonist stuff. Also maybe Karen Miller's Godspeaker trilogy counts. The story is told in a kinda weird way so there's potentially 3 main characters, two of them women.
Camden Gomez
it's also terrible
John Sullivan
>grrm has gay and incest Did you somehow mentally block out all the rape?
Ryan Rivera
Would people read about a masonic order in a Mad Max, Hokuto no Ken post-apocalyptic wasteland setting trying to uphold order or has that been overdone?
Jeremiah Jackson
It's definitely not his best work, but I wouldn't call it terrible. If only because I've read actual examples of terrible high fantasy and however dull and plodding Williams can be at his worst he's still fundamentally not a hack writer.
Juan Brooks
Could be neat depending on how you handle the masonic order.
Juan Richardson
I was thinking ranger style like in LOTR, they basically have a networking thing going on with other smaller settlements, trading, protection, etc. If some band of savages fuck with them then the order comes in and sorts them out.
Samuel Thompson
That's what grabbed me about Malazan when I first read it. He just drops you into the setting and story and expects you to pick things up as you go. Took me like 4 or 5 books to get a reasonable grasp on major aspects of the world building, and even then he still kept throwing new names and concepts at you later in the series. I burned out by Dust of Dreams, haven't been able to get back into the series.
Oh and by the way, Malazan was originally conceived as a table top role playing setting that just evolved into a novel series as Erikson and his friend were making it. So yeah there definitely is an element of the author just exploring and reveling in his own creation there.
Juan Foster
(you) killed /sffg/
Daniel Cruz
Not sure how that's masonic but I guess it could work. The thing about masons is that they are super secretive. Masons don't advertise who they are and flat out pretend to have no idea what you're talking about if you mention Masonic secrets in public. So if this order is going to be based on them they should be more clandestine. Not to say they can't be like rangers, but that could be a front organization for the REAL masonic order.
Caleb Garcia
Are we allowed to talk about new books now?
Chase Hernandez
The first Malazan book is the best, skip the rest, it all goes downhill
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Might just call them the order then to save an unintentional slander.
Oliver Taylor
Well the upside to them being so secretive is they don't really prosecute people for slander or anything cause that would have the side effect of dragging their order into the spotlight.
Nolan Roberts
I recently finished Reaper's Gale. Series has been pretty good thus far. The number of PoVs is getting painful though, large sections of switching to unrelated PoVs every page or two. I found it helpful to read one-shots at the same time to break things up.
Ayden Diaz
No, but feel free to discuss good books.
Henry Nelson
Ebic
Jayden Peterson
I regret reading both Name of the Wind books.
Jayden Murphy
I regret reading every fantasy book I read.
Cameron Long
Alright.
Ian Butler
At least Gene Wolfe is SF.
David Martinez
Which did you read? I get some satisfaction knowing that answering questions on how awful it is may turn some innocent souls away from reading it.
Angel Sanders
It's not necessarily that it's awful. Just horribly paced and a chore to get through.
The book is also a how-to on being an incel beta orbiter, by the way.
Isaac Phillips
How to beta orbiter chore to get through horribly paced is awful in my book.
Michael Gonzalez
>How to beta orbiter chore to get through horribly paced is awful in my book. Is "your book" written in English, by any chance? Because that word salad is not.
Anthony Howard
Oh good I thought it was just my brain crapping out when I couldn't read that post.
Justin Ross
How else is everyone going to see their new shoes?
Mason Howard
>Girls, I New York OG a pants What the fuck. Just stop posting.
Jeremiah Jones
I just finished reading this, the first half was really enjoyable
has anyone here read any good non-epic asian fantasy that they can recommend?
Isaac Hughes
Recommendations for dark fantasy? Looking for the gritty grim grimdark here.
Mason Reyes
First Law series Prince of Nothing series
Benjamin Gonzalez
Softbait clickporn? In MY /sff/?
More likely than I thought.
Mason Ward
>first pedobear >then spurdo >now this all legs thing Is this how new marcos are formed? When people with no skill try to draw an already existing meme?
Easton Evans
>first kek >then zozzle >now this all memes thing Is this how new dialects are formed? When people with no literacy try to write in an already existing language?
Benjamin Wood
but no one says zozzle anymore
Jeremiah Cruz
>Girls, I New York OG a pants This makes no fucking sense, are you the retard that also posted this?
Liam Johnson
>had cool scifi idea >reading cool scifi book >it fucking stole my idea before I was even born