Why was DFW friends with this hack? Genuinely interested in the origins and nature of their friendship

the look in his eye, you just KNOW they banged
dfw is known to be THE most hung guy in the midwest, possibly one of the biggest in the world. his cock has been described as "like an evian bottle", with gargantual thickness that would rival shane diesel and shorty mac. im estimating his size to be at least 8.5" bone pressed, with OVER 7" of girth. he would have absolutely destroyed franzen's boipussy.
they would have spent hours and hours on foreplay, getting himself wet enough just so he can take it. i can just imagine him begging for it, with dfw barely able to force it past the knob, and franzen moaning and squirming, demanding him to force it in deeper. he would have orgasm'd within seconds of taking the entire length, being filled and stretched right up to his ileum.. the orgasm would have been powerful, with his anal muscles clamping down on dwfs throbbing monstrosity, his whole body quivering in euphoria..
i bet he still masturbates to the memory of it

Did David leave anything for Franny in his will or did he lock him out completely? also was he his only friend? these are just general questions I have.

slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/04/26/jonathan_franzen_s_farther_away_is_marred_by_his_anger_about_david_foster_wallace.html
>Elsewhere, Franzen says Wallace’s suicide was “calculated to inflict maximum pain on those he loved most.” More than once, Franzen suggests that Wallace had deliberately gone “the Kurt Cobain route” and “chosen the adulation of strangers over the love of the people closest to him.” He says that “infantile rage and displaced homicidal impulses [were] visible in certain particulars of his death.” What those “certain particulars” were, Franzen doesn’t say.

read the bio if you're seriously asking, he had closer and longer friends, but I think Franzen was his most famous friend (besides like Dellilo, they wrote each other)

ok yikes, but I think he says that out of being hurt and angry his friend chose to leave his life (not to mention his family's life//to the extent that it was a choice) and not out of some petty envy over sales numbers

Franzen was very close to DFW in the time before the suicide. He called Franzen in total desperation, asking for help

Why do you keep posting her. stop.

Franzen is such a twat

>Franzen talks about going the Kurt Cobain route because he wants to hide from the fact that the last words he wrote to him were "kys you ugly christfag"

also this article is dumb, at least witht he current information that's out there

>"For instance: “I will pass over the question of diagnosis (it’s possible he was not simply depressive) and the question of how such a beautiful human being had come by such vividly intimate knowledge of the thoughts of hideous men.” Of course, Franzen hasn’t really passed over the question of diagnosis; he has explicitly raised it, while also implying that Wallace had to have been like the “hideous men” in his fiction (as though he were incapable of otherwise imagining such hideousness)."
a. I think Franzen's hinting at bipolar or something like that
b. by all accounts/from the bio DFW DID consider himself one of those hideous men, and a lot of those stories were based not exactly on his own thoughts and actions, but they stemmed from them--and this was brought up to counteract the creepy Saint David stuff that happened right after his death by people who had never known DFW and who now wanted to control the narrative, idk why exactly, but I empathize a lot with his pissed-offness

>"Eventually Wallace asked to go back on Nardill, but he was too agitated to give it the weeks it takes to work. Franzen would call and encourage him to stick with it- the worst was over. "Keep talking like that," Wallace said. "It's helping."

i have to kek at how people are bullied into believing that DFW isn't one of the greatest writers of the last 30 years.Yes you faggots, Infinite Jest is a master piece. People are rusing you, they are laughing at how easy they can mold your opinions because you are scared of not fitting in.

Ranicki also smashed Tin Drum after it's release, but unlike Bloom he had the class to admit his failure.

don't be cry now

I think his project is pretty cool. Harkening back. But he isn't a very good writer in my oh pinion

Anyone see that thing where I think Mary Carr said DFW and Fran had met in real life only once?

Pretty sure it was a New Yorker panel called re-reading DFW

On YT

link? maybe you're misremembering?
I literally just reread the end of the bio and Franzen had visited him in California the last summer he was alive at the very least, they were also in Italy or wherever for a thing that Zadie Smith and some other writers all went to. There's...multiple pictures of them together all from different time periods.

there are at least four seperate events I found where they're pictured together, this one , the italy trip, pic related and this
youtube.com/watch?v=EwfQl2LGhwc

found myself
someone link a transcript if there is one
youtube.com/watch?v=JqN52yKI4pg

I agree that he's the best writer to emerge in that period, but I think Infinite Jest was ultimately a failure and he went in the wrong direction with his work in general. Brief Interviews is his best writing.

Why is infinite jest a failure?

Because he was writing a Big Postmodern Novel in the style of Pynchon or Gaddis but worked against himself when he didn't want to admit what he was actually doing despite the obvious influence. That and it just all went in too platitudinous a direction because he couldn't maintain enough detachment from the message he was trying to push with it.

This was before I was into him and have since been wondering about that statement. Pretty sure it's in here.

youtube.com/watch?v=JqN52yKI4pg

You either haven't read Infinite Jest or you completely misunderstood it. There's no way someone could read those hundreds of pages about the virtue of platitudes and come away with that criticism. And no, he was not trying to write a "Big Postmodern Novel" - IJ was very clearly a departure from and critique of the postmodernists.

newyorker.com/magazine/2011/04/18/farther-away-jonathan-franzen

This ought to answer some of the questions in this thread.

I like DFW and his writing overall but IJ fucking sucks and deserves its meme status

Because DFW knew DeLillo, Markson, Gass etc and he felt self-conscious about their superiority.

Franzen was always a positive boost because he knew how much better of a writer he was than him. It put him at ease.

It's funny because Franzen is a far, far better writer than Good Ole Dee Eff Dubya.

It was only a "departure" and "critique" of them in the sense that he wanted to one up all these people who'd influenced him while still using their tricks. It didn't work. IJ was still a weaker work than Gravity's Rainbow or J R, and their influence was still obvious.

And recognizing platitudes for what they are but deeming them "necessary" is itself a platitude even if it sounds vaguely thoughtful.

DFW didn't need postmodern tricks to be a better writer than Pychon. He only used them because to him they kept the books "fun." He could write about a kid getting sad over a dead bunny and it'd still be just as good.

Franzen looks like he has those funny glasses on with pictures of eyes on them. What a retard.

What the fuck is a platitude? What are post-modern tricks?

Both of you are spouting horseshit and DFW was a hack