Who is the best writer of our generation and why is it John Green?

>"That's THE thing, Quentin," Margot's words come out of her mouth like breath. "We're paper, paper people like paper dolls, just like the paper town, towns with snow like confetti. We are a paper town living in a plastic word and we don't want to wake up and read the newspaper. Newspapers delivered by paper boys. We are marked by our paper cuts. Even on 9/11, the last remnants of the towers were just papers machéing the streets in their dying irony." Margot's breast heaves like vacuumed lungs. I took a moment to breath in myself. "You can see it, right?" She asks me, like this time she is really asking, and not just asking to ask.

>The city below us glitters like the stars above us and her star-filled eyes. I am: shaking, my intestines are in my bowels and in my throat. I realize that near her I am not even the paper in the wind. I am the dust.

kek

When you use wood glue you have to use lots of it.

Why do teen girls like this shit so much? Do they really pine for such a beta male in their life?

Yeah but imaginary beta males.
Kinda how some men want a manic pixie girl but irl girls who act that way are usually fucked in the head

>The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling.

Not so bad now, is he?

Jesus fucking christ is this real

Haha I mean like its fine when a dozen men have came in my bowl of cereal!

What does John Greene think of fat disgusting nigger whores? I want to suck his tiny cock and feel its juice on my tongue. I'm a little slut.

>literally shaking

depression isn't real and was created by women as to create a facade as to why they are incapable of human feelings. Men mimic the depressive aesthetic that women have manufactured in an attempt to relate, but they have yet to realize they are appeasing to a facade of a facade of a facade. When they do, this is what induces the suicide, which is the reason for the higher propensity of the so-called "depressive" deaths in males.

>Margot's words come out of her mouth like breath
What do you think speech is John? Farting?

This is a John Green quote as well, user

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>NO DISCERNABLE TALENT, nice b8 this is IJ

It's not nessarily that all women are held to a different standard than all men, it's that all women are held to a different standard than poor men. If a guy with no money gets a lot of pussy, he is seen as a stud and it's seen as something in his favor. It's seen that despite his circumstances he is still able to convince women to have sex with him, which is essentially seen as a redeeming quality. As if to say that if he was unable to have sex with women

Meanwhile for richer and more affluent men, getting lots of pussy is seen as a bad thing. Often rich and powerful men are called womanizers and perverts because they are seen as taking advantage of the poor and naive women who can't resist their whiles.

In this regard, women are actually held to the same standard as the richest and most powerful men in our modern societies. In fact, in some cases they're even placed on a pedestal above that. Whereas rich and affluent men will be seen as womanizers and perverts if they indulge too many women, women will be seen to be soiling themselves by allowing too many men too much access to their bodies. As if to say that men are the inferior species and to allow one to touch you is to lower yourself to their level and to make yourself less valuable.

If anything, I would say that the problem is less that women are held to a different standard than men, because men are held to different standards based on what they have achieved in life whereas women are held to their own universal set of standards. A set of standards where women are automatically seen as valuable, whereas men have to prove themselves to be valuable before they are even acknowledged by society as a whole.

I would say the problem is that men aren't held to the same standards as women.

I'm sure most of you will call me some sort of name for typing all of this out, and I'm sure you'll all say that I made some mistake in my reasoning here. I just thought it needed to be said regardless.

Ya got me user

Shit man, that's a good way of thinking of it

The John Green/DFW misleading copypastas work way more than the John Green/Delillo pasta, because Green's writing style is pretty much a pitch perfect imitation of Wallace on an off day

Is it that DFW is a direct and unspoken influence, or is it just that authors with no discernible talent tend to think alike?

>I am not that great of a writer.

What the fuck's his hand doing

What a guy

pretty sure the pic was supposed to be cropped, yikes

Holy shit. His name is John Greene and he is wearing a "green" sweatshirt.

>his name is John Greene
>John Greene
>John Greene
>John Greene

I have only read Paper Town, now i know i don't want to read another one in the future. He is boring, not subtile about his points. The thoughts are not profund or original. He behaves like a cult leader. Wow just wow, we treat different people differently and have different standards, for what we expect them to accomplishe. It is completly natural and it is a dumb trend to try to make everyone the same and treat them as such. Were is distinction, were is nuance, what would be the reason to live in a world like this?

It is a book for kids though. It's not gonna be The Brothers Karamazov

I've read it when i was younger, but my opinion has stayed the same.

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Thinly veiled virgin with rage /pol/ thread, but Green is an idiot and he's missing the other side to the double standard that hurts men and boys too.

On the other hand, with men there is a pressure to be "alpha" and sleep with a bunch of girls which can be pretty damaging to the psyche of adolescent boys particularly--this shit is what creates a lot of these troglodyte betas who can't get away from porn and become bitter virgins.

The whole double standard is so absurd that it contradicts itself--because we want our women to be chaste but our guys to be alpha, in which case--who do we want the guys to sleep with?

I hate when people just act like the sexuality double standard is only damaging to women.

Obviously I'm not a men's rights fedora, but this kind of thing makes me want to be sometimes...

Lol, as I scrolled down I thought he was leaning on something.

There's no double standard. Who set this rule? I've never met anyone who believed this. Where's the evidence that supports the claim this idea exists? Do you think Zimbabweans have this idea? I don't think so. It's a myth.

I'll bite, since I never see it actually argued on Veeky Forums

What's wrong with being a men's rights activist/advocate again?

Absolutely nothing

Women are garbage yet have every advantage possible

The second quote literally hurts me, physically

Guys, look, I know we love to hate John Green. Rightfully so, he's a cringeworthy cuckold. But please please please stop making these threads. Let's actually talk about literature for once please.

Nothing is wrong with being genuine about what you believe in but most of the time fedoras are just immature/emotionally underdeveloped fags. That user's post was right though.

It's from infinite jest brother

>STATELY, PLUMP BUCK MULLIGAN CAME FROM THE STAIRHEAD, bearing a bowl of lather on which a mirror and a razor lay crossed. A yellow dressing gown, ungirdled, was sustained gently-behind him by the mild morning air. He held the bowl aloft and intoned:

> -- Introibo ad altare Dei.

What the fuck?

aren't baby carrots short, thick and stout?

>Kill all beta males
John's not beta. Welcome to reality, hope it's not too much of a shock for you.

this seems fine, although extremely laborious to make a simple point.

Although:

>The fire's flames

Is it really that important to specify that it's the fire's?

Well said.
Im glad I got over the manic pixie shit before I pulled a 500 days of summer or a ruby sparks

pro-tip: this isn't from a Paper Towns promo. She's always at his heel.

special day :)

antics haha

>open relationship
Top kek. John Green is a literal cuck.

John already has a kid. Cara is "husband's son" woman and a cuckquean. Sorry to burst your bubble.

you can mock him all you like
but he is a successful writer and you aren't

1/10 at least you made an attempt.

You could have used a quote that isn't one of the most known, user.

greene is canon prove otherwise

>namedrops DFW
Now I be cry

You can tell he had his thesaurus open beside him as he wrote this dumbass shit

Just so everyone knows, this is David Foster Wallace, not John Green.

Hey man, I've been dealing with bipolar II, and I can assure you that depression is definitely real.

That's why these kids are bashing him though.

How many YA novels do I need to write to get my own Cara?

autism

if you're not gettig any you're a genetic bell-end

it's evolution, not culture

>greene isnt a beta

wew led

>A brief explanation from John: My new book, An Abundance of Katherines, is about a boy, Colin Singleton, who has dated 19 girls, all of whom dumped him and all of whom were named Katherine. Some people may say, “Well, what entitles you to write such a book? Why do you presume to be such an expert in the field of getting dumped?” And so, to prove to you that An Abundance of Katherines is born of an Abundance of Experience, here are 19 sentences about 19 girls who dumped me.

>1. Jennifer Keene was the cutest girl in third grade, and as such was really out of my league, which she realized after four days.

>2. After it ended with my fourth-grade girlfriend Julie Baskin, I wrote in my journal, “my life is a waste” (seriously).

>3. Tiffany-whose-last-name-I-can’t-remember told everyone at camp I kissed like I was eating a sloppy joe, and then broke up with me during pottery class.

>4. Davonne Raizor, the cutest Cure fan in all of ninth grade, eventually revealed, “I keep trying to be attracted to you, but it isn’t working.”

>5. Barbara wanted someone harder core.

>6. Holly Brown liked Stuart more.

>7. Fran realized she didn’t like boys.

>8. Jen Spears realized she still liked Gilbert.

>9. By way of parting, Jeanette said, “You don’t need a girlfriend; you need a robot who says nothing but I-love-you,” and in doing so, made her way into “An Abundance of Katherines.”

>10. After several hours-long conversations about our relationship told me, Jenny told me, “I would prefer to HAVE a relationship rather than just discuss one,” which proved impossible.

>11. After two years, Major College Girlfriend and First Real Love Marie Ponzillo was like, “If we’re not gonna get married, we should probably break up, and we are SO not getting married.”

>12. Jill dumped me because I couldn’t get over Marie.

>13. Annika dumped me because I couldn’t get over Jill.

>14. Then came the smothering trilogy: Jessi Johnston felt really smothered.

>15. Carrie Sanders felt really smothered.

>16. Lesley Martin felt really smothered.

>17. After my junior year of college, Mary-whose-last-name-I-can-remember-but-she-is-a-lawyer-and-has-threatened-to-sue-me drove with me to Alaska, where we were spending the summer in a town of 18 people, and in pretty short order, Mary dumped me for one of the other 18 people.

>18. Emily Chambers was my Alamo: there were no survivors.

>19. Sarah Urist dumped me after two dates, because I was awkward and couldn’t talk to her (but then we stayed friends and I got slightly less awkward and then four years later we got married).

what a normie

>because I was awkward and couldn’t talk to her (but then we stayed friends and I got slightly less awkward and then four years later we got married)

Jesus christ

>in lit class yesterday
>reading Billennium (the focus of the class is apocalyptic literature and how fucked the 20th century was)
>professor uses a Crash Course video on population dynamics
>even she thinks John Green's obnoxious and told the class, and she's the kinda professor that turns up in /pol/ threads about how much college sucks

Good, I was getting worried since it was actually pretty OK.

you mean a TA ?

aka his career started to take off and she figured she'd settle

Her page on my university's website says she's a "lecturer," so maybe? At any rate she's in charge of the course, nobody else lectured and she maintains the syllabus and curriculum. It's a gen ed if that's relevant.

desu I can't get a handle on her age, she has some features that would say 40's but then again pretending to be 45 seems to be the hot new craze among younger women in the humanities. She does have problem glasses since that's a necessary detail with this kinda thing.

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He has interesting ideas but he misunderstands them and sucks at communicating. And he can't write for shit.

Somebody should have fucking stopped him, even one of those 'friends' of his could have told Sarah that the creepy guy is asking her out
But it's too late now

He has multiplied

haha that's actually pretty funny and clever

I still want an Effy Stonem more than anything.

after a few you need to have a popular one, but it needs to be really successful and made into a movie, how does it become succesful? Get your brother to make a vlogseries with you where he does ALL the work, then get e-famous and rant about women being oppressed till your audience becomes purely tumblr YA fangirls. Your book will now sell super well especially if you cater to that exact demographic. Finally you need to cast some random hot impressionable starlet as your main star, who you can have all to yourself after you're done shooting. There you go, you got your own sidepiece.

And then your opinion would've been different from the internet meme oh no :(

>I had a stack of books the size of two Infinite Jests
Does he think this is clever?

This is too deep for me. What did he mean by this? 9/11 was paper mache?

why did 52 different people think it necessary to post in this thread

Why did you think it was necessary to post in this thread?

That's not a men's rights thing though, you're thinking of pick up artists and feminists.

because they generally are associated with "The Red Pill" (/r9k/ ideology for redditors)

This is so pathetic. Multiple girls dumped him for other people, and the ones who didn't dumped him for being too clingy and drippy. Have you noticed that EVERY ONE of those 19 girls broke up with him, not the other way round? How does he still have self respect?

it's smart

I concur with this user

Why are you a woman in her mid 30s and why don't you have any money?
not enough succ

>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
~Paper Towns

This so much. My ex was like this but I thought that was normal.

Holy shit man, I was a fucking idiot to not see that. Luckily, I ended it anyways.

this is like the bad inverse of that flight of the conchords song. no one would even propose such a question to him in the first place.

Cheerios can't give you AIDS, you overrated, formulaic hack.

I want to insult you

how passive aggressive do you have to be

also, do you think those are their real names? so now if you google them the top result is john green's whinging about them