Knowingly sell cancer

yeah it's capitalism 101. this is the problem with the usa, we buy pretty much everything at the supermarket. outside of the us most people have a bakery, a fruit and vegetable shop, a butcher's.

There are still places in the US where you can sidestep the supermarket for the most part. I live in an unfashionable corner of a major urban center and all I ever buy at the supermarket is canned tomatoes, pasta, garlic and coffee. The avenues here are lined with butchers, fishmongers, greengrocers and ethnic stores (Mexican, Chinese, Middle Eastern, Italian). I haven't bought much at the supermarket since I moved here five years ago. Feels good man.

It's the seller's fault for purposely omitting nutritional information and running misleading and false advertising until forced to be honest when they get a slap on the wrist from the FDA because corporations have zero qualms about lying out their ass or using buzzwords like organic and non gmo to rip people off. Consumers don't always have the time or the knowledge to read the packaging and understand what's good or bad for them or they just don't give a fuck when they have 3 kids to go feed at home after working their second full time job so they just grab a couple boxes of microwave mac and cheese and pass out on the sofa.

What do you want them to put on the package? "This shit is really bad for you"?

i envy you, that's generally not the case though, especially in suburban areas.

>Consumers don't always have the time or the knowledge to read the packaging and understand what's good or bad for them or they just don't give a fuck when they have 3 kids to go feed at home after working their second full time job so they just grab a couple boxes of microwave mac and cheese and pass out on the sofa.
And that's who these products are for: shitty food for people with shitty lives.

To me it's totally worth living in a small but relatively expensive apartment to have so much in the way of great food within walking distance. It was a big factor in choosing to live here.

where do you live if you don't mind me asking?

South Brooklyn, about 25 blocks from where things start getting upscale.(if you don't count the hipster businesses on the waterfront). There is a Costco here, so if I wanted to do they typical gigantic American load of crap style shopping I could. But there are so many little stores with aggressive prices within walking distance that I've never set foot in Costco. No need.

ah that makes sense, lol. brooklyn gets a lot of schtick, but it ultimately is the real place where you get a taste of NYC culture, whatever that means. i'm from bergen county NJ, right next to NYC.

thanks for the mindless edge, now try including at least the slightest amount of real contribution to the discussion before you post

My point was that the companies making and selling these products realizes a long time ago that a price sensitive customers will buy truly awful shit and feed it to their family just because it's there and it's cheap. So that's where the standard was set: the most they can charge for the lowest quality stuff the customer will accept without balking. If the product is really awful it's cheaper to create demand for it with advertising than to improve product quality. If you have any doubt about this look at the recipes featured in ads in women's magazines near the checkout.

If price is a concern and you're not in the position to cook everything from scratch you're basically screwed if you're dependent on the supermarket.

>SOFT WHITE THICK

If they are truly fully aware, then the buyer of course. (Even if they aren't, ignorance isn't exactly a good excuse)

Canned refried beans are "processed food"?

I need to get my life in order.

Brooklyn deserves the shit it gets. The Park Slope Food Co-op is like something right out of Portlandia, as are the oh-so-precious little restaurants making their own pickles and shrubs (for their signature cocktails) in house. . And people are paying more to live in Williamsburg (a former Jewish/Latino/Polish neighborhood) than it costs for a place in Manhattan. When you hear about really stupid Brooklyn shit like hot sauce sommeliers it's usually happening there. That place has been full retard for over a decade.

But other parts of the borough are what they've always been - the place where immigrants come to get a better life for their family. And they bring their taste in food with them. Which makes it a great place to eat food from all over the world for relatively cheap (especially by NYC standards). Queens is really the only part of the city than has Brooklyn beat on that front. And I'd rather live here than there.

yep, the gentrified part deserves its shit but at least it's nice and has good places to eat. gentrification is a massive issue in NYC right now though and parts in queens and more and more poorer culturally rich neighborhoods are slowly shrinking.

Sounds like you fuckers will be the same as SF soon. That was always the valuable thing about NYC - the gritty, hard scrabble atmosphere once you got out of Manhattan. Oh well, can't be helped I suppose. Just "progress." But if I want to visit a place that's become SF, I'll just head to the original where it's warmer. RIP, NYC.

>knowingly sell cancer
Them. See tobacco sales.

Most consumers are short-sighted goldfish, and like goldfish will eat themselves to death which ultimately is great for business when your industry is based on sales volume vs. quality. Humans are biologically manipulable, so companies have spend unreal sums of cash on R&D to screw around with flavorings and macro-ratios to abuse the psychological Bliss Point and hijack the brain's reward center to keep people coming back for more because these products are carefully engineered to never actually trigger satiety at their prescribed serving sizes.

If you have time, the National Institutes of Health gave a presentation on the latest research concerning foods, obesity, and addiction exactly 1 month ago to the day today that was uploaded on youtube. It's both fascinating and depressing:
youtube.com/watch?v=3weIemIjWDs

That gentrification has been the cause of my last three moves here. One nice neighborhood goes to shit and you have to find another.Over the last decade and a half I've watched Williamsburg, the East Village and the Lower East Side turn from kinda gritty to fine dining destinations. Which is why I'm in South Brooklyn now. There's still plenty of NYC that's recognizable as the gritty old New York. But you have to get there before word gets out among the stylish white kids.

But humans don't consciously choose anything, all decisions are made in the subconscious, isn't it wrong to exploit the subconscious into making decisions without any awareness on the subject's part of why those decisions were made?

For me it's the mcchicken

What is up with white liberals who complain about gentrification constantly?

>"Waaaah, my city is a shithole with lots of crime and a poor economy, do something about it!"
>neighborhood gets nicer*
>"Waaah, all the hipsters moved in and ruined muh authentic gritty ghetto"
>eats at brunch spot with $10 avocado toast and froyo anyways

imagine saying all of this outside Veeky Forums kek

You aren't allowed to be this dumb; sorry, you'll have to leave now

>being nostalgic and actively seeking crime-ridden places to live for "the atmosphere"
White kid who thinks he's hard detected.

Life is short and kind of pointless for me, so I prefer convenience to worrying about GMOs and organic shit and what may or may not give me cancer.

It's not that I'm being edgy, it's just that you never know what the next day is going to bring, and what bullshit is going to end your life. I don't particularly want to live past 80, and I don't want to have kids either, so at the end of the day, who cares (to some degree)?

don't you guys have any empathy? these are working class people losing their homes in the few places they can afford to rent, just to accommodate wealthier, probably white, rich people.

It's called capitalism. Deal with it.

I say this shit to most people I know locally. Midwest in-laws seem to take offense, so I keep quiet around them.
White kid who made a living as a rock and roller - actually living the dream - back when that shit was sitll possible here. Of course I'm a little nostalgic for it.

>le ideology over morals
go back to /pol/ you robot
i meant on other boards, but clearly i spoke too soon

Canned anything has been processed

They're probably young and don't own any property.

i dunno, i've lived in the same neighborhood for 15 years. it used to be a chill place with a handful of great restaurants and chill fun people.. a few drug addicts and drunks here and there, but relatively little crime

now there's 100 restaurants, but nothing worth going to ($11 for an ok bahn mi, soggy pho, overcooked fried chicken), lame uptight neighbors who call the police when you watch tv later than 1030 pm or have a quiet barbeque outside, and in the last year i've had my car vandalized, my van broken into , and my motorcycle stolen (this was after 14 years of zero problems)

it's just shitty, i can't wait to go innawoods full time

Nobody does this, stop pretending everything written on the internet is written by middle class suburban whites

But those neighborhoods are horrible.
They are dangerous and full of drugs and crime. No one in their right minds leave there with a family .
Sure, there are famillies there. But the crime is bigger

I dont see how making those zones nicer idms a bad thing in shitholes.
Look at detroit. Thats what happens when u dont control it

Are these ok to eat??? They arent cooked.
Are all cans bad?

>They are dangerous and full of drugs and crime. No one in their right minds leave there with a family

You either don't live anywhere near a populated area, or you're only visiting the entertainment districts. Try looking outside between 6 and 8 am, that's when you see the normal people bringing their kids to school. Just because there is a 99 cent store on the corner and a check cashing place on the next corner doesn't mean everyone who lives in the area is in a cartel or a street gang, you ignorant fuck.

cheaper and healthier to buy them dry

you can even can them if you're so inclined

I have no pity for people who smoke themselves to death in the 21st Century. Doctors have warned society on the effects of tobacco for a very long time.

And at the same time in an era where counting calories could never be easier (until we invent spoons/forks that automatically count for us) I really think you can only blame yourself for overeating and eating the wrong things.

The only industry that deserves and assraming is pharmaceuticals, which failed to educate people on the effects of Medical Meth and Heroin. Growing up I knew to stay away from hard drugs, but I didn't fret whatsoever in taking a Vicodin.

>momscience
>muh toxins

Buying them dry is kinda hard to cook.
You have to put them in water for like 8 hours and then use a pressure cooker
Which takes forever

I dont even like them canned but it is just easier. My question is, are canned vegetables bad for u?

Not exactly. A 1hr hot soak and a half hour in a pressure cooker is enough to cook chickpeas and kidney beans. Most other beans take 20 min or less under pressure, and you can get away without soaking many of them.
>are canned vegetables bad for u?
In principle no. In practice they're often loaded with salt and usually one or more preservatives. You probably don't need extra salt, and you definitely don't need preservatives. Then there's the question of the shit the can is lined with. Is that shit a real issue or not? Who knows? The jury is still out, though evidence points to some plastics leeching nasty shit into food. Might be a good reason to limit how much canned stuff you eat.

>failed to educate people on the effects of Medical Meth and Heroin. Growing up I knew to stay away from hard drugs, but I didn't fret whatsoever in taking a Vicodin.
I grew up thinking blow was safer than most prescription pills. The only people I saw who died from blow were chronic users, whereas I knew of plenty of people who died by misjudging recreational use of prescription pills. I'm past the point of that kind of partying anymore, but back in the day I'd go for a couple lines over any pills on a night out because the blow just seemed like a safer choice.

T.communism pro

More like socialism or at least capitalism with heavy regulation but ok

Well we all know capitalism results in both predatory practices and boom and bust cycles based on speculation. Putting systems in place to try to mitigate these two very real downsides of it just makes sense if you're of the perspective that the welfare of the citizens is at least equally important as that of corporations.

Check'd
You'd have to be a downright apathetic robot to not believe in that.

Are you kidding? Those few who managed to get very rich by exploiting that predatory side of capitalism and it's boom and bust cycles are often against any sort of moderation of it. And they're in the position to make their voices heard.

full of chemicals that aren't good for you

That's half the story. Sure most processed food is loaded with preservatives, coloring, artificial flavors and other shit, some of which might not be all that good for you. Also lots of salt and sugar. But the other half of the equation is that processing food strips away nutrients that would just be there in whole foods (and usually most of the fiber). Flour is a perfect example. Freshly ground whole wheat flour is pretty nutritious stuff, and it has fiber. Bleached white flour is so nutritionally poor that it has to be enriched by adding nutrients back to it. And it's got nothing in the way of fiber. And that's just something as basic as flour, let alone ready to eat products made from heavily processed ingredients.

>>Not exactly. A 1hr hot soak and a half hour in a pressure cooker is enough to cook chickpeas and kidney beans.

Thank you for this info. I will try this.

Sometimes food cooked in pressure cooker gives me a lot of painful indigestion. What could be the cause?