If diet is linked to education and health...

if diet is linked to education and health, why doesn't government further limit what can and cannot be purchased with food stamps/government assistance?

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nationalreport.net/new-study-reveals-89-percent-food-stamps-squandered-junk-food/
cato.org/publications/commentary/junk-food-stamps
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Because it just makes things messy for the stores to decide what is and isn't eligible. I have to ring up people's WIC groceries and that program is more limited and it's all just such a bother to run down the list and make sure each item is eligible. If every fuck with food stamps had to be run through like that, that'd be horrible. Not to mention, it's just more encouragement for them to sell the food stamps and buy whatever they want with the cash.

a) b/c you're conflating correlation with causation
b) as far as causation goes, it's entirely possible that better education leads to more healthy food choices

why would the jobless person buy more? they have less money.

because no one likes people telling them what to do, especially on a legal level

this is how i can tell you dont have a job

if i had no job, why would I ask that question you dumb dumb dummkopf

The implication is that those who are unemployed are irresponsible so they buy more junk shit, the money coming from government assistance so because it isn't really 'their money' and have zero responsibility (and made zero effort to get that money) they also buy a FUCKTON of stuff they don't need.

EBT/Welfare
It's a recognized trend for people on government food assistance to blow it all on junk food almost as soon as they get it.

recognized by who

nationalreport.net/new-study-reveals-89-percent-food-stamps-squandered-junk-food/

cato.org/publications/commentary/junk-food-stamps

Low IQ + Shitty Life + Food stamps = binge time

this picture is misleading, should be a normal cart on the right with healthy shit in it.

>When you realize you posted a satire site

Second link is still legit though

>treating a fake report as real
god damn you are one stupid motherfucker. how much money did you give to that nigerian prince so that he'd let you hold onto his millions?

Mother fucker I acknowledged my mistake like MAN you faggot the second link is still good.

Your second link doesn't say anything about the percentage of food stamps blown on junk food or is proof of " a recognized trend for people on government food assistance to blow it all on junk food almost as soon as they get it".
In fact, it says
>How much? We don’t know because the government will not release detailed data on food stamp spending.
Yes, people can buy junk food on food stamps. That's all that link proves.

You didn't read the whole article did you?
They have links to studies that food stamp recipients are both more obese than non and score lower on healthy eating index's.

>mfw I buy a cartload of fruits, veggies, meat and bread with literally zero snacks
>mfw people think I'm umemployed because of this

The actual studies say
>Existing research provides no consistent evidence of an association—and no evidence of a causal relationship—between SNAP participation and overweight or obesity. The potential effects of food assistance on obesity are tangled with the effects of poverty and socioeconomic status. Because poverty is highly correlated with SNAP participation and with obesity, independent effects are hard to determine.
>Recent studies have found that SNAP participation does not increase either Body Mass Index (BMI) or the likelihood of being overweight or obese for the majority of SNAP participants—children, nonelderly men, and the elderly. For some subgroups, SNAP participation has a negative association with the probability of being overweight. Nonelderly adult women, who account for 28 percent of the SNAP caseload, are the only group of participants for whom multiple studies show a correlation between SNAP participation and elevated BMI and obesity

Then why is poverty related to obesity, if money is not being spent on junkfood?

I'm sorry if I've misled you. I'm not arguing that food stamps are never used to buy junk food. I just don't buy "they're going out and blowing it all the moment they get on candy and chips!" to the point where it's a recognized trend.

I'm not saying all food stamps are spent on junk food. What I'm arguing and the article is arguing is that abuse of food stamps for junk food is recognizable problem, and if it's a reconcilable problem it constitutes a trend.

WIC is basically how you want food stamps to work, and it's a pain for retailers. That means a lot of them will just stop taking food stamps, because a lot of them don't do WIC.

Even if they wanted to, it's hard and time-consuming to pass/change a regulation, and whichever agency is in charge of food stamps is almost certainly going to be lobbied by each and every single food manufacturer that it tries to exclude from the program while nobody is going to lobby them to limit what can be purchased.

That second link doesn't support your point very much. Nobody knows what percentage of SNAP funds are spent on junk food.

How much money worth in stamps do you actually get as benefits? Let's say per months.

>ITT: user explores welfare

Average is 126 dollars a month per person, but it varies depending on disability status, household size, household assets, and other factors.

No seriously. We don't have a foodstamp system here. There is just a specific amount of money allocated to groceries in the money we get.

I don't get it. How can they even pay rent?

Because food stamps are just for food and aren't all they get. People on food stamps also receive SSI (disability or retirement pay) or have a job.

I don't think they do, don't they just live in section 8 housing? I don't think you have to pay for that.
I actually tried looking into getting some kind of food stamps while I was working and in school to help ease the financial strain, but the process laid out for me was really complicated and 'sticky', if that makes sense. It seems like a difficult process to even try to get food stamps

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure food stamps are designed to help people that are in tough spots that have full means to recover and not have to rely on food stamps indefinitely.

The way section 8 works is that you pay about 30% of your income towards the rent, and you get a voucher for the rest. There's a restriction on how expensive the total rent can be called "fair market rent" that varies from place to place. There's a long waiting list nearly everywhere, and most people end up waiting a year or more to even get it.

Plenty of people are on food stamps long term. The disabled, low-income households, etc.

So if you become unemployed and choose to pursue govt assistance it could take years to get sorted?

You're fucked for section 8, but you can get food stamps almost immediately if you qualify. But in most states, you can only stay on them for 3 months without a job if you are able to work, an adult, and don't have dependents.
There's also unemployment benefits, but those vary widely from state to state, there's no national standard there.

Thats the way it should work and is its intended use. However some people abuse it. Certainly not to the extent its critics make it out to be mind you.

Most critics are just inflamed that their tax dollars should go to poor people and want an excuse to justify that anger, e.g. they're lazy fraudsters. It's also funny when they reveal how little they actually know, like thinking food stamps are still literal stamps.

>if diet is linked to education

kek.

What clickbait article did you get that from?

That's an interesting question for republicans. They typically want to limit government power to intrude on the daily life of citizens, but they also love to fuck with poor people. They'd basically just have to flip a coin.

You must work at a really shitty grocery store. The POS at mine automatically indicates whether an item qualifies for WIC or not.

Oh honey, welfare couldn't afford all that junk shit, there must be $200+ of food there.

It is. All I have is a laminated sheet of what's allowed that we carry. The owner is stuck in the 60s, and almost hilariously afraid of technology.
But people come because the Wal-mart is all the way on the other side of town and that's about all we have.

>trusting the digital jew
yes please glorious technocracy give me my oculus rift and automated jerkoff machine

>if

Babe it isnt it may have ties but it most certainly isnt link in a absolute kind of way

I've been a NEET for 2 years and I eat almost nothing but beans, rice and various root vegetables.

Pretty healthy. Throw in some tofu or tuna for that extra protein.
Maybe something green in veg and youre good.
Maybe meat once a week? some cheap cuts?
Or make some rice stew with cheap pork or beef cuts, that shit lasts you over a week with some rice. and its not expensive.

>family
>no family

how can someone be so informed about technology and so stupid at the same time? the human paradox

fuck all these articles and studies. I study my fat beast girlfriend who won't leave and is on food stamps with 3 kids from three fathers none of which are me. She gets around $620 a month food stamps and feeds them frozen pizza, sugar, candy, chips and bullshit food and if I cook anything I get screamed at forever for trying to make the kids not like her by making food. Fuck I get screamed at anyways so screw it. They eat nothing but pure shit 99% of the time and even if she makes a can of green beans she boils them in sugar water first or they won't touch them. Corn? Adds sugar. Chicken? Well let's blend ketchup, a can of coca cola and brown sugar and now it's BBQ chicken time kids! I don't need articles and reports and shit to see what these pieces of shit use the stamps on. I see it every fucking day and it's pathetic and destroying America at an alarming rate. 12 two litre bottles of soda gone in under one week. If a bag of chips is opened up it never gets to close and is gone within an hour. The sad thing is it's not even the kids getting the food. They are little twigs barely making weight while momma gets fat as fuck sitting on her ass doing nothing but yelling and screaming at every one and telling them to microwave their frozen shit for their dinners.

>why don't we become a completely authoritarian state

Back to commieland with you

If you add a lot of chicken then you have me

What the fuck man
Leave the hambeast

>if diet is linked to education and health,
why doesn't the government further fund education?

person on the right = average blue apron customer
person on left = average hoarder NEET who screams in fear at the idea of a vegetable coming in a ziploc bag even though 95% of the food he eats is food from a plastic bag

how much do you spend buying that a fortnight?

There's literally nothing wrong with ebt

Welfare I have a problem with

>SNAP
>not welfare
user, I...

By welfare I mean checks/direct deposits

Food and rent assistance are fine but just giving people money means they will spend it on drugs/alcohol

Beans and rice for breakfast?

Can you actually kill yourself? Serious or not, remove your genes from the pool ASAP.

Maybe some people just like junk food?

How true is this image?

I mean I dont get a bunch of junk food and fill my cart to the top but I do get a lot of groceries that I use to cook with and that tends to fill it up.

I also dont have a job but I dont need wellfare. Will people know that I a NEET? When is the right time to go grocery shopping so people dont suspect that I am a shut in?

In my experience people who plan ahead tend to shop big once in a while and then do mostly homecooking (bring all lunch, snacks and stuff from home, bring homemade ice tea instead of buying soft drinks etc).
People who are impulsive, lazy or wasteful tend to buy for immediate consumption.
People who don't care about food at all do the same.
People who have low appetite or struggle to eat may buy small and randomly.
Family people buy big but always have screaming kids with them.

Nobody notices a cart full of relatively normal food, that left image is being used because it's a big cart stuffed to excess with pure junk.

If you don't want people to think you're a weird shut-in NEET shop evenings when normal people get out of work. Or for maximum effect kidnap a child to pass off as your own.

Re: food stamps, I was on them for a while and definitely used them to buy fresh, healthy foods but I will admit the majority of people I saw using them (I only noticed after I got on them) were buying cart loads of junk. This was in a shittier part of Oregon though, so that may explain things.

He's talking about the different programs you pendantic fuck. This is why nobody likes you .

>pendantic
This has to be some sort of trap.

No I just woke up. Pedantic. Correcting people all the time is another reason no one likes you.

It's true, poor people buy shit quality food

Triggers me when people claim it's because healthy food is expensive. Such nonsense.

I'm not even the same guy you replied to earlier. Stop projecting you fucking lunatic.

>thinking food stamps are still literal stamps

As a nonstamper, I appreciate the changes made to food assistance payments. Now the only people who tie up the grocery line are the stupid motherfuckers who insist on paying with checks.

>'the implication is...'
>"oh they said it they must believe it"

After you, fucktard.

lying and calling people lunatics for no reason: third reason no one likes you.

wtf are you doing there? how did you even end up in that family when you're not even correlated with them at all?? and if you're still with them, why?

SSI isn't really the same thing as disability or retirement income.

SSD is income for disabled people.
Social Security Retirement (which is never written as SSR for /some/ reason...) is for retirement. Related is Survivor's Benefits, which is for widows/widowers of retirees to continue to receive that support.

To get SSD, you must either have amassed enough work credits to qualify for the program or have been a dependent or spouse of someone who has /at the time of your disability/ or your spouse's death. Basically, if you/your spouse/your parents have worked long enough, gubmint assumes enough has been paid into SSA to offset the costs of paying you benefits. If you go disabled in your late 20s and are therefore no longer a dependent of your parents and haven't earned enough work credits for SSD, you don't qualify for it and never will. Instead, SSI covers you. SSI covers, also, people who are pathalogically allergic to work. I'm not sure how they qualify, though. It doesn't, however, cover retirees. At all. It may cover old people because they qualify in other ways, but retirees and their survivors would opt for the retirement/survivor's benefit because it's much higher than SSI benefits. Same with people eligible for SSD.

t. guy who's been dating a social worker with the SSA for the past year

If I said I sell my stamps for alcohol anonymously.
Which I don't.
Would somebody show up to my house?
Just wondering because I get lonely sometimes.

Stamps aren't a thing anymore

You could give someone your ebt card tho

no.

Homeless people here trade their cards for drugs and also figured out a way to buy alchol with stamps. You can also buy the ingredients to make alcohol.

This is also a fel9ny if you get caught btw

you'll notice a subtle difference between the two photos: one is a white woman, and the other is a black family.

If you think the picture is about the size of the load, you're refreshingly naive

>work in grocery stores stocking merchandise for third party vendor
>constantly see fat fucks, with fat fucking kids, riding scooters filled to the brim with sugary snacks, red meats, chips, cookies, etc.
>they don't have enough room in the baskets to house their soda, so they put their 24 pack of soda cans below their fat, discolored, soon-to-be-amputated due to diabetes feet
>they finally get to checkout, gasping for breath as they heave their titanic bodies off of their wheeled carts
>they manage to ask the lowly clerk "you take food stamps right?"

Is that pasta?

>on forced holiday (too many accrued personal holidays at work)
>notice fridge is almost bare
>it's almost midnight but have nothing to do at home beside masturbate and play video games
>go to large 24/7 supermarket
>crowded inside, people walking around with carts full to the brim with junk food and soft drinks
>wtf is going on here?
>ring up at the cash register after waiting on line
>ask the cashier if there's a midnight sale or something
>Nope, first of the month EBT reload
>mygod.png

EBT reload day is like a fucking zombie apocalypse.

And your tax dollars go toward furthering that person's pathetic, lecherous existence! Yay, socialist programs!

>lecherous
Dumb frogposter

This.

I see shoppers with full carts all the time at the store I shop at, but the carts are full of vegetables, fresh meats, fish, whole grains, etc.
I can easily fill a cart with mostly vegetables and fruits.
The size of the shopping container has less to do with jobs, and more to do with how many people you are shopping for. (I shop for a family of 4).
The size of the shopper has more to do with what kinds of foods they eat and how much they exercise.

I hope more people start to buy fresh produce. It really helps my department's sales and we get to put fresher product out quicker.

Thanks reddit fags for buying weird shit like turnip greens and chard mixed with other random items that you'll never use but just want to virtue signal. It helps a lot.

That is the only Pepe I ever use, because it accurately portrays my feelings toward things like this (e.g. people abusing food stamps)

Also, "dumb frogposter" isn't an argument, in case you were unaware

>when an amerilard doesn't know jack shit about socialism but still feels an overwhelming urge to chip in his two cents about it and manage to erroneously use the term "lecherous" to describe leech-like behaviour in the process

i dont have a job and my roceries are mostly meat, vegetables, rice and a pice of candy because im poor

FTFY

I'd rather eat the stuff on the left

If you're working, you're not spending as much of your day unsupervised with nothing to distract you from your growing boredom. People eat when they are bored and tend towards "junk food" in these scenarios because the lack of stimulation prevents them from distracting themselves from even the most minuscule amounts of hunger, and large amounts of sugar, caffeine, salt and chemicals provide a nice amount of artificial stimulation

>If you're working, you're not spending as much of your day unsupervised with nothing to distract you from your growing boredom. People eat when they are bored and tend towards "junk food" in these scenarios because the lack of stimulation
The rich person eats out more, shops less.

oh i cant wait for you to "educate" us about it with sources

That's because you're a dumbdumb. Smart people recognize the value in working out and being beautiful. Stupid trailer trash flyovers let themselves get fat because they are lazy, stupid degenerates.

fuck you, I work at the kroger's DC and those pre-mixed salads are the worst. Stacking them so they don't fall is impossible. Buy heads of lettuce, dammit

woman on the right is buying food for one meal, because she lacks the ability to purchase food ahead of time