Why is this allowed?

leftists had 24 years of constant appeasement, 8 from clinton, 8 from bush and 8 from king nigger, so now seeing their world shatter is driving them mad.

So what happens if the politicals don't like what the study reveals?

1st amendment doesn't give you the right to impersonate a federal agency, those accounts should be reported

>certainly not a nasa scientist
Yup, they all have signed their NDAs.
The First Amendment prohibits the government from banning speech because it does not agree with the message. Nowhere does it say your freedom of speech cannot be confined to your basement. As long as you whisper.
"You are reminded that any inappropriate remarks or jokes concerning security may result in your arrest. We appreciate your cooperation." -- Airport announcement

Find one person who actually thinks its run by the government

Because a government agency shouldn't badmouth the head of state unless it is law enforcement and it is related to criminal charges against the person.

Also if you don't want science to be a partisan issue, don't make it one.

Those agencies got into the ring and now whine they lost.

they are using the official logos so it's a gray area
it's like dressing as an leo for halloween, it's legal in some places and illegal in others

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The problem is, despite saying "unofficial", they use the NASA logo and claim to be people in NASA, who represent NASA's *real* view, as opposed to what they're forced to say by the evil tyrant Donald Trump.

It's a misrepresentation. Even if they do work at NASA, their personal opinions don't represent the whole agency, which is made up of thousands of people. In any case, they have no right to use the NASA name and logo this way.

It should be shut down.

Its literrally called rogue.
If you think rogue means government sanctioned science, you deserve to be euthenized

For the last 50 years, scientists have been getting funded and paid for by the state for regurgitating the same fucking research papers that lead to no results. The only innovation and development has occurred in the private sector, where R&D is exclusively focused on the interests of the market.

and you should pick up a dictionery

>commy socialist cucks
Excellent satire.

#scidoesitbetter

I find it weird how many non-researchers hang out on Veeky Forums. I just don't get how someone who supposedly likes science can have such a shitty view of it/an inaccurate view.
If you go to a couple labs, learn some shit, you'll realize quite quickly that most labs are doing stuff you've never even heard of.

t. current machine vision researcher

You should form a 'Right Wing IP Squad' to grass on people using logos without permission.

>you'll realize quite quickly that most labs are doing stuff you've never even heard of.
because it has a minuscule impact.

Mate, if you ever worked in a lab, you'd realize that every person working in them is a glorified prostitute prone on the ground begging for funding and sucking any dick they can find. There is absolutely no dignity in being a researcher.

More likely that the breakthroughs are better publicised when funded by a charity.

You can't trust just what you've heard of as an accurate sample.

So all government-funded science in the us for the past 50 years is bullshit because you don't understand it?
Hilarious

SpaceX just got ten times the subsidies

Is /pol/tardation incompatible with rational thought?

That question is worth it's own thread.

We've never had a head of state who publicly shitposted about vaccines causing autism.

SpaceX doesn't replace NASA

This

A head of state with the maturity level of getting in twitter wars with people he dislikes or giving a speech where he says the government will "bomb the shit out of" our enemies will not inspire an atmosphere of respect.

>wah wah dey makin fun of my Pwesident!

/pol/tards really are childish hypocrites.

>this isn't a partisan or political issue
>btw fuck that nazi Trump

SpaceX can launch 55 tons into LEO for $65 million by 2018
Blue Origin can launch 70 tons into LEO for $90 million by 2020
NASA can launch 70 tons into LEO for $500 million by 2026

Clearly only a fascist who hates science would pick anybody except for the brave American heroes at NASA

>replying to yourself
kill yourself

So you're arguing against a claim that was never made?
Hilarious

>finding the most cost effective design after 60 years of Nasa demonstrating how to shoot rockets.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK AGAINST GODKING TRUMP

>politicize an issue
>"you have politicized this issue"
>LOL POLITICIZING ISSUES MUCH??

You're making a large, presumed assumption in agents shouldn't badmouth the head of state. The head of state serves the people, not the other way around.

In most basic terms, when lines of communication break down between 2 groups with different views, then those 2 groups move on to the next lower method of solving their dispute. Continuing this pattern till they reach the absolute lowest possible form of solving disputes, violence and war.

The fact that Trump is the one breaking the lines of communication, both by putting a gag order on all scientists and pretty much calling them lairs on everything he disagrees with on principal, puts him squarely to blame for what scientists are doing. The fact that scientists aren't resorting to violence and war just shows that they're more intelligent/clever than those who would do so. However, the more Trump forces the issue, the more he tries to subjugate and suppress, the more he'll force people to resort to the final form of arbitration, violence & war.

fuck
not again

Ya i am sure that the Scientists in nasa are stocked on trump

additionally....

by forcing the lines of communication to stay open, like with OP's pic they are delaying the process of arbitration devolving into it's lowest common denominator. In short, Rogue NASA may very well be preventing violence and saving peoples lives.

I'd like to see him try to shut down NASA actually. It's probably the fastest way for him to get shut down.

The coolest thing about all this is that we're not going down without a fight.

Drop some sick Harry Potter references on me next

Isn't Trump totally Voldemort and NASA is literally Gryffindor?

>we're not going down without a fight.
NASA gonna do the Asteroid Redirect Mission to redirect an asteroid into the white house?

>SpaceX doesn't replace NASA
It replaces MSFC. And JPL doesn't need NASA, they just need funding.

NASA can be cut down to almost nothing without affecting its performance in space exploration.

A communication disruption can mean only one thing!

>I'd like to see him try to shut down NASA actually.
Not a bad idea: JPL is not NASA. SpaceX is not NASA. NASA can go, and won't be missed.

>It's probably the fastest way for him to get shut down.
>- Increasingly Nervous Man

>brainlets who think that NASA only does space exploration

Yes, we know. NASA doesn't do space exploration, which is the only thing we want it for. They pass through a small fraction of their budget to JPL, which does enough space exploration so NASA can take credit and pretend to still do space exploration to keep a good public reputation.

NASA does boondoggles and climate propaganda. They can go and won't be missed.

>commy socialists cucks question their leaders

I thought the problem with communism was that you weren't allowed to question leaders. Gulags, etc.

Well let's ask the thousands of people at NASA what they think.

Oh right, Trump forced an executive order preventing them from speaking.

I'm sure they love that.

Alt facts and alt history

NASA is Ravenclaw. Trump is Cornelius Fudge.

You think the people at JPL have any more respect for Trump than NASA?

>Because only commy socialist cucks question the actions of their leaders.

But not Obama right, /pol/tard?

i believe the man was being sarcastic. why you hate science though /pol/? is it because facts don't line up with world view.

Trump has a low IQ. To lower the IQ of his opposition he goads them and turns them into angry emotional n irrational people. Its why he loves to be hated n loves to troll. His power to troll is why /pol/ loves him. Its no accident that he trolls so much.

Scientists however are immune to his tactics, as maintaining rational objective thought is what they're trained to do. This makes scientists Trumps most dangerous enemy, and is why he's working so hard to destroy them.

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Relevant:
securedrop.org/directory

Looks like they just changed it.

Also note they have clarified they are not government employees.

twitter.com/RogueNASA/status/824600365651857409
twitter.com/RogueNASA/status/824601637155180544
twitter.com/RogueNASA/status/824602138303234049

Because the US head of state is weak and his followers and base of political power are also weak and won't be in power long because their bullshit is shallow af?

I neither know nor care about the political opinions of the people at JPL.

What I do know is that JPL does competent (if not particularly cost-effective) work, and has been responsible (along with a couple other academic research programs, which have been considerably less active) for basically all space exploration credited to "NASA" since the end of the Apollo Program.

What Trump's currently fighting against is an entrenched force of leftist infiltrators, who don't do good work and abuse their positions to bring in and promote more of their kind, and to further the left's politics. They say insane things, like that NASA's highest priority should be "to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations".

They're not there to do their job, they're there to collect paycheques and push agendas that are hostile to the American mainstream.

Every one of them needs to lose that position, to lose their opportunities to abuse it and to lose the income and prestige that rewards their bad-faith actions. It's not about removing people for having certain political positions, it's about removing political actors from non-political positions.

It's not that they're being targeted because their politics are on the left, it's that infiltration and abuse of position are leftist tactics.

>unofficial
who cares
sage

Not knowing scientific communities are the best to dispel religious falsehoods.
>back to /pol

What did they mean by this?

That only PhD have real correct opinions and everyone else is just stupid.

>uncovering science political bias and lobbying bias

I'm all for it. Science needs transparency. All experiments need to be performed many times by many people around the world before it becomes empirical; instead of just reviewing their methods and agreeing.

Opinions are great and all, but your opinion on the future of earth's atmosphere doesn't matter for dogshit compared to that of someone who spent decades of their life studying it

I'll study & research and tell you anything you want me to say if you pay me enough for my research.

t. human

>out-of-touch academics should be the premier policy makers for society

Did I say anything about policy? I don't think scientists should make policy. They should be free to do their research without a politician telling them it's wrong because his stupid ass doesn't understand it and thinks it will cost him money.
What is happening here is censorship of the truth based on politics. The scientists were never making policies in the first place, and nobody itt asserted that they should.

>government decides they want to take a look and have a say in how/whether to publish the research they fund
>wtf censorship
do research with your own money then, or get funded by some private institution if you think your research is important, motherfucker
"climate science" is a fucking meme and government should not be funding it

I'll go to pol if you can come up with a competent argument, faggot.

>climate science is a meme
Is the climate itself also a chinese conspiracy
Nigger do you think this is unicornology or some shit

if it's important then find someone else to fund it

You think airport announcements restricting speech in an airport is a limit on free speech?
Are you being intentionally retarded?

How is dignity at all related to the discussion? I find it hard to believe you worked in *any* lab but are still this dumb.

>They should be free to do their research without a politician telling them it's wrong

Scientists give that up the second they take taxpayer funds. The hubris of these technocrats is really what chaps my ass. They forget who they work for, and after being funded for so long, they feel entitled.

>censorship of the truth

This kind of hyperbole is a good example of that entitlement.

It doesn't turn a profit, nobody else is going to spend money on it
>the firr department is important enough that people will just keep it running on their own, stop wasting muh taxpayer dollars

>the firr department is important enough that people will just keep it running on their ow

uhh, that actually happens quite a bit

I agree, the Ministry of Truth is the only reliable source of information. What the Trump Administration approves for release is what is absolutely true. The media needs to keep its mouth shut/

*ministry of alternative facts

MiniAF vs. MiniTrue, which sounds better?

>muh truth

That's a good one coming from "liberal"s.

Facts are wholly non-partisan. When you get to a point, a fork in road, where your choices are follow the facts or follow the ideology (which, surprisingly, is a powerful sealant for cracks in narratives), if you don't choose the former you surrender your agency to the whims of those authoring the message.

Your feels don't conjure facts.

You're absolutely correct. We're not talking about feelings. If I came to you and told you that the Earth is stationary, and the Sun and all the other planets revolve around it, would how passionately I argued this point to you have any bearing on the truth of my claim? No.

>Facts are wholly non-partisan.
So you figure government research agencies, welfare agencies, immigration-related agencies, law enforcement, national parks, etc. should be constantly shouting from the rooftops the facts about genetic differences in intelligence and aggression between the races?

Or are only some facts wholly non-partisan?

Anyway, there are plenty of ways to state facts in a partisan way. For instance, you can report constantly about every time a Democrat does something rude, stupid, or illegal, and never report when Republicans do the same thing. Or you can report every bad weather event next to a comment about heat pollution from nuclear reactors or the albedo-darkening effect of installing solar panels or agriculture and the trends of these things increasing over time.

On top of that are "facts" that are actually judgements or products of a model. For instance, "historical global temperatures" are educated guesses, not facts, and the annointed guessers often went to their task with strong convictions about what climate policy should be and what findings would generate pressure toward it. Even the current global surface temperature is a complicated abstraction which can only be estimated according to a model. It's not simply a hard fact like a temperature reading at a certain time and place taken by a certain instrument.

When do we shut down chemistry and physics funding? I'm tired of paying money to hear about bullshit like water is 2 hydrogens and 1 oxygen or how an atom has an electron, proton, and neutron. Literally how is this ever going to make me money, if they want funding they can go elsewhere. Besides we all know the only real elements are fire, water, earth and air. I'm fucking fed up with this libcuck propaganda the media is always lying about.