Scientists are planning Washington March for Science

>Scientists in the United States are mobilising to organise a March for Science. What originated online as a discussion about how to push back against the anti-science stance of Donald Trump’s administration rapidly gathered support from concerned scientists and non-scientists alike. A march on Washington similar to the Women’s March was proposed, and within 24 hours the group’s Twitter account had gained an additional 124,000 followers. Over half a million people have also joined a new Facebook page, which has become a hive of comments, suggestions and coordination. An event in the US capital is planned for March, with activities occurring in other countries.

>The leaders of March for Science stress that it is an inclusive movement – organising and participating in marches isn’t restricted to practising scientists. An online form that helps coordinate involvement has received thousands of contributions. What’s become clear is that this is an issue that both scientists and non-scientists are passionate about.

theguardian.com/science/blog/2017/jan/27/scientists-are-planning-to-march-on-washington-heres-why

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quillette.com/2017/01/17/saints-sinners-a-dialogue-on-the-hardest-topic-in-science/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-creationist-jerry-falwell-jr-liberty-college-higher-education-reform-taskforce-a7558061.html
publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

why conflate anti-(fake climate science) with anti-science? they're two different things

i don't see the trump administration denying gravity or anything like that

Keep in mind he's also heavily outspoken against vaccination, climate change isn't the only hot opinion he has.

>all of a sudden the left cares about science
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They're denying years of valid research, killing off grants for schools which graduates and post graduates rely upon

If it'd the EPA first who knows what else he could kill off, federal tuition assistance?

>heavily outspoken against vaccination
Not against vaccination as such but for a reexamination of the potentially harmful practice of (almost) neonatal vaccination which may compromise the immune system and impede neurological development.

Epa is shit

>potentially harmful practice
Where are the proofs?

Trump denies vaccination and climate change.
These are actually more critical issues than race, which conservatives reject as well btw.

It's not the left, it's every scientist that actively participates, studies or even receives funding from the government

>trump is said some mean stuff about a couple chicks; mass protests
>trump denies global warming and vaccination; eh whatever

>the EPA is shit
>nasa is shit
>fafsa is shit
Yea OK go haggle for money in the street corner

>every scientist
No

There is literally no evidence that vaccines cause autism

Anyone asking that people look into the pseudoscience of suggesting that they do is as backwards as it gets towards fear mongering

>eh whatever
You mean except for the protest that this thread is about?

>book is actually blank

Yea dude it's every scientist who gets funding, grants, research awards from the government. If trump can just freeze one he could do it to all he disagrees with

The notion of anti-science is ruining technological advancement

I only said the first one. But NASA except JPL is shit. Federal student aid has managed to ridiculously increase tuition over the last years.

You are shit too.

Where is that scientific evidence that race determines intelligence? This picture is posted a lot but I've never seen anything supporting it.

I want to support this march because being anti-environmentalist is a mistake, but holy shit does the left make it hard for anyone rational to agree with them. The statement in the official page about intersectionalism and critical theory is such a fucking turn down. It feels like it's just science deniers in both sides, each fighting for their own cultist ideas instead of rationality.

desu i dont think that type of research gets funding in the first place

No. Not every scientist thinks trump is antiscience. Not every person thinks trump supporters are nazis. Not every woman is a rabid sjw. Cut the shit.

It's about fucking time we became vocal.

This is exactly why trump won,
Dumbass liberals and their oppression olympics bullshit.
Mfw becoming more and more centrist as time goes on.

Not that guyl, but it's still an on-going debate that has not been settled. Anyone claiming IQ and race are 100% correlated is lying and pushing a scientific claim without enough evidence for political purposes, but so are the ones that completely deny it.

Here is a rundown of both sides:
quillette.com/2017/01/17/saints-sinners-a-dialogue-on-the-hardest-topic-in-science/

Not nearly as large as other protests. And definately not brought up that much during the election.

Liberal is centrist and is currently obsessed with bullshit identity politics. What you're looking for is the left, which has the good shit like socialism and communism.

I imagine it's mostly from a book called "Race, Evolution, and Behavior". Haven't read it but it's been panned by a lot of anthropolgists.

pic related makes a whole lot more sense now

What about all the communists currently out there smashing up starbucks?

Those are liberals going apeshit that their flavor of fascism got voted out of office. The left is something else entirely

Objectively speaking people score different on IQ tests based on race, so race does somewhat predict intelligence. This is a fact.

The debate is about wether or not this difference is caused by cultural factors like inequality or racism, or if it is genetic. In reality it's probably both.

>environmental sciences
trump denies global warming
>biomedical sciences
trumps pick for secretary of health is Tom Price, who has repeatedly gone against funding for the NIH, CDC, and FDA
>physical sciences
Trump team plans to defund nuclear physics research, scientific computing research, and the DOE

who is left?

>trump is said some mean stuff about a couple chicks; mass protests
>actually being this niave in thinking these women are doing mass protest over TMZ tier comments

They're there because of pro-choice and women rights. But because Trump is an idiot he threw gasoline into the fire with the travel ban and allowed the women's rights movement for Muslims to get admixed with women's rights in the West in general to effectively create a monstrosity.

>trump denies global warming and vaccination; eh whatever

Don't worry user it's coming, with the funding cuts and anti-vaccine/climate he's priming scientists for push back.

>Not every scientist thinks trump is antiscience.
True. But most of us do.

Petroleum engineering?

All your bullet points are "he is evil and hates science" and "he doesnt like how X does Y so he doesnt like Y" nonsense

Engineering is not science. There's no empiricism involved in engineering, only homosexual intercourse.

Most scientists in the US are liberals

not just in the US

Climate change should not be a left/right issue.

Hot opinion

Science in general is very left leaning by definition because of the importance of ideas over credentials. Anybody can get published in peer reviewed scientific journals so long as their papers are decent enough.

Leftism is not a synonym of good.

>All your bullet points are "he is evil and hates science"
Is that not part of the topic up for discussion?

>federal tuition assistance?

It's not a synonym of liberalism either.

From wikipedia article on left wing politics: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
According to author Barry Clark, "Leftists [...] claim that human development flourishes when individuals engage in cooperative, mutually respectful relations that can thrive only when excessive differences in status, power, and wealth are eliminated."
You tell me where these values appear in the publishing process.

>i don't see the trump administration denying gravity or anything like that

He's literally putting young earth creationists in charge of education reform fyi

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-creationist-jerry-falwell-jr-liberty-college-higher-education-reform-taskforce-a7558061.html

>you're shit for sticking up for funding of scientists and students

climate change has already been cancelled

>trump school
Doesn't say anything about how to make it less expensive the same way o bongo care promised to lower insurance payments but didn't

Keep in mind he's been in office for a little more than two weeks.

Well that's good, I'm glad a politician can just come in and get God to stop the laws of physics when it's convenient.

His pick Education in general.

Conservatives are content to simply ignore science, but liberals want to infiltrate and co-opt science for their own purposes.

The question is, which one is worse?

Conservatives, nothing good comes from ignorong reality.

Yea really can't wait for some retard with absolutely no financial or educational experience to fuck up schooling hardcore

It'll be great, I can't wait for a whole generation of kids to grow up inept to compete for anything.

Make America great again.

Lol back to vaccines cause autism. The only evidence for this that ever existed was a study by a British surgeon, Andrew Wakefield, which was completely discredited due to "serious procedural errors, undisclosed financial conflicts of interest, and ethical violations". He lost his medical license for it as well. There has also been a much more than substantial number of studies by multitudes of reputable and unbiased researchers and research groups since that all show absolutely no link between autism and vaccines.

The dangers of not vaccinating children are beginning to show up as well. Not vaccinating
your child not only increases their own risk of serious illness, but increases the risk for others around them. Not vaccinating your children is irresponsible, and in doing so you put the health and lives of everyone around your child at risk, as they now spread the disease if infected: "In 2010, California saw 9,120 cases of whooping cough, more than any year since the whooping cough vaccine was introduced in the 1940s. Ten infants too young to be vaccinated died of whooping cough during the outbreak". Those who are misguidedly not vaccinated are a health risk to the public as a whole, and not just themselves.

Source:
publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/

This. The last thing we need is a Second Medieval Dark Age (and I really hope that's just a hyperbole)

More like "Can't go to public college because it's 20k a year and I have no help from parents, no where near enough savings and no job that pays that kind of money to pay for it"

Scholarships don't cover jack shit and the competition for those already is way too difficult to acquire when every generic scholarship is triple folded by special snow flake scholarships for black Trans women gay jew Muslims in under water basket weaving art semiotics

Jews and Asians actually have anti-affirmative action against them. It's not some special white genocide thing.

I was talking about primary to secondary education.

>wikipedia says leftism has a good quality
>science benefits from an application of said quality
>so science is leftist
Brainlet argument

I thought scientists were supposed to be smart, not sheep.

Because importing 3rd world theocracy from jihadi warzones is less likely to lead to a scientific dark age.

Just go to state school...

Christ. He really is /r9ksguy/.

If leftism is defined as good in your opinion I guess? I was just giving the ideals of leftism. Ideals are subjective and some people would say that putting all your faith for the truth in the authority of God or the church is good. Science just happens to have the same ideals as the left.

Not really, he just said the scientific community's base values are somewhat aligned with leftist ideals, so therefore they could be seen as leaning to the left. Their system for sharing work and running a community is slightly leftist in its processes and goals.

God bless America this shit has been unreal.

Basically. Refugee's aren't the ones supporting Jihad. They're the ones that have a little bit of sense, more so than the Bible-thumpers of Conservative America.

>3rd world theocracy
you mean like teaching kids that humans walked with dinosaurs and that evolution is a lie?

I know. Funny how liberalism rises with education, amirite?

the odd engineer among the protesters

>engineer
Then why isn't he sucking a cock?

Just the irony of it

The ability to go to college is super useful but it will always cost so much purely due to upkeep, administration and other bureaucracy. Simply put if school isn't standardized for pricing then the debt incurred without federal funding will be worse than before

That is public school stupid

>chemistry, physics, biology, genetics are not science
This is what SJWtards actually believe.

>us
Who's us? You and other undergrad retards?

[citation needed]

??????????????????
Have you been on Tumblr? Even once? Or even read half of this thread? 'Cause it sure sounds like you're just saying things for the sake of saying things.

Actual scientists have jobs they have to go to. These are unemployable people trying to feel good by claiming some moral high grund since they have empty, worthless lives.

By SJWtards definition, Musk is anti-science as well.

Not him but I've heard several conversations between senior academics about Trump and none of them have been positive.

Anti-science means anti-chemistry, anti-physics, anti-biology, anti-genetics... I have not seen Trump go against any of these practices ever.
>b-but climate science is all the science in the world
And thats why you're a joke.

>Have you been on Tumblr?
Neo-Veeky Forums, gentlemen and traps.

Climate science uses principles of chemistry and physics though.

>Who's us?
Scientists.
>You and other undergrad retards?
No, me and other people with a PhD in a STEM field.

So the false predictions and politics ridden agendas that climate scientists use means that He is actually going against the nature of science? Who are you trying to fool exactly ?

>I have not seen Trump go against any of these practices ever.
Then you haven't been paying much attention. There are plenty of examples given in this very thread.

[citation needed]

>Anti-science means anti-chemistry, anti-physics, anti-biology, anti-genetics
Ok that's fair

>I have not seen Trump go against any of these practices ever.
see

>some anonymous posts on this board are my evidence
I'm Barack Obama.

>change in regulations means he is anti-X
kek
Trump hasn't done anything yet regarding to defunding anything yet you act like it. Your obvious bias makes it very difficult to make people take you seriously.

>anti-biology
Vaccines cause autism
>anti-genetics
Appoints evolution deniers
>anti-physics
Defunds NASA and nuclear physics

He is refuting the ability of scientists to use physics and chemistry to model the climate. The only politics ridden agendas here are the ones coming from fossil fuel extraction companies and their friends in the White House.

>Vaccines cause autism
Trumps kids are vaccinated
>Appoints evolution deniers
appoints to where ?
>Defunds
show me where he defunded anything ?

Got more tumblr "facts" ?

I hope you got paid for that post. It's sad to think that someone that retarded posts on Veeky Forums of all places.

ARE YOU CALLING CLIMATE SCIENCE FAKE?

I bet you also believe supporting the funding of conversion therapy =/= supporting conversion therapy.