I am a regular meditater and a staunch skeptic in matters of absolute certainty (and a materialist and nihilist in so far as inclinations and proclivities are concerned).
Nonetheless, the occult does fascinate me, are there any books that do a relatively convincing job of making the reader believe that there exists phenomena in the universe thats nature cannot be fully detailed by experimentation (or what many would call the scientific method).
The book could argue that these phenomena are knowable in other ways (say by certain reflections though meditation) or largely unknowable/unconfirmable, even transcendental. I guess books that argue in the latter manner would be more convincing.
Help me Veeky Forums. Make my life magical. Not on /x/ because I browse Veeky Forums and I figure you lot would give much more intelligible answers.
Pic quite related.
Julian Harris
you could try some of Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger books. he starts out trying to scientifically investigate the idea that he might be receiving signals from Sirius and ends up not knowing what to think.
at least he didn't go over the edge like Dick did with Valis.
Adrian Morris
>occultism don't do it or you'll find nothing but punishment for that, there isn't anything (good) you could find there
Robert Peterson
oh, i dunno.. a thorough study of occultism can show the hundreds of ways that mystics have bullshitted (bullshat?) their way through life. there's a sucker born every minute.
some of this bullshit is amusing (time cube). some of it isn't (scientology).
the more you know about their bullshit, the less likely you are to fall for it.
Isaiah Ortiz
FOR EXAMPLE.
millennial cults aren't, as you might expect, cults for millennials; they claim the world is going to end on a particular date, and they sometimes attract large numbers of people, who are encouraged to give away or sell their property.
when the day comes and the world doesn't end, some of them get pissed off and leave.
about half of them DON'T. the master of the cult announces a new date.. that day comes and goes.. a few more leave. he announces another date for the end of the world.. it comes and goes, the world doesn't end and a few more people leave... but less than last time.
eventually he ends up with a core of people who will believe any crap he comes out with.
it's a shame that by this point they don't have any money or property, but they do make willing slaves.
praise "Bob"!
Christopher James
Been there, done that. Read some social scientists instead. It's the exact same wordgame and it comes with some real, applicable insights.
Nicholas Nguyen
there are things cultists will do that social scientists will not.
not many, true, but still..
Juan Moore
An understanding of the occult would do you no good if you don't have an observance for religion. It's like trying to learn how to fly when you don't have feathers.
Nolan Brown
Ouspensky's In Search of the Miraculous did it for me Also, tentatively ,Gurdjieff's Meetings with Remarkable Men. I say tentatively, because Gurdjieff insists you are supposed to read Beelzebub'a Tales to his Grandson (a monstrous 1,200 page summation of Gurdjieff's philosophy that's actually strangely similar in its genius and relevance to world-history as Goethe and Nietzsche, I believe) beforehand.
Logan Torres
Just the process by which you're reading this is not compatible with Materialism.
Jacob Cox
>Gurdjieff This user knows
Brandon Gomez
how about you come with a proper example, then?
Zachary Hall
JUNG U N G
Start dream analysis, then active imagination.
Josiah Smith
Tbqh you could do worse than Moore's prose
Lucas Miller
who is this sperm wyrm?
Christopher Taylor
was the Reverend Jim Jones a social scientist? "hah, i got them to drink the kool-ade. can't wait to publish these results."
Bentley Russell
do you even Rasputin?
Joseph Lopez
Is Votf good? I really enjoyed Jerusalem
Hunter Smith
augustine Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite nicholas of cusa meister eckhart hildegard von bingen marguerite porete jung the hero with a thousand faces
James Carter
>timecube >scientology >mystics
Justin Morales
all righty. who do you consider to be mystic?
> must wear brown robe with hood > must have long grey beard > pointy hat with stars and moon symbols > gnarled old book under one arm > chewing on amanita muscaria > talks pseudo-latinate crap