>in the death penalty and other things Christ would be against >believes in eternal hell for masturbating
JUST WEW
Elijah Robinson
what a charlatron
Parker Garcia
>death penalty and other things Christ would be against
lol
Oliver Powell
>lol
Explain.
Ayden Flores
>>Believes in the death penalty both augustine and aquinas support the death penalty just saying
Benjamin Robinson
Is that Christ? No.
Cameron Taylor
this "Christ" you talk about practically doesn't exist, almost nothing is known about him the architects of the church are everything, atleast for virtually all christians
Isaac Reyes
>claimed to be a Catholic >pro-death penalty
Jose Garcia
>Christ didn't exist meme
You think it matters if he existed or not, dummy?
What's it like seeing all of life from a Positivist perspective?
Idiot!
Joseph Martin
Christianity is totally unable to defend Christianity. Having your churches and holidays is fine and all, but if you followed Christ's word to the letter then you'd be living in socialist hellholes overrun by jihadists and degenerates.
Sometimes you have to do very un-Christian things to preserve a Christian society.
Grayson Garcia
>falling for the Jesus was a socialist meme If anything He's more of an authoritarian centrist.
Colton Collins
Peter Hitchens maintains certain (in my opinion ridiculous) views simply because no one has had the strength to publicly combat him and win in a joust of words. His vehement criminal stance on drug use, for example, can be turn asunder especially by conservative thinkers- but the people that he debates on the subject are moronic celebrities who majored in Drama. He's of the belief that all humans are a consequence of choice and that these consequences must occur- if you have sex and get pregnant, you must raise the child. If you take an illegal drug, you must deal with the consequences yourself or with the help of a state prison system to punish you for taking the narcotic. Yet in the same breath, he will defend a universal health-care system and state that it is the duty of every British person to help out fellow British people when they are injured or ill and that this is a public duty.
Naturally, if he believes that every person must suffer consequences for the actions they take, then his stance on universal health can be argued as directly contradictory to his other sentiments. He's just memeing at this point.
Isaac Foster
that's not what I at all said. I hate people like you that are desperate to feel superior but don't actually know anything
the catholic church doesn't condemn the death penalty as such, just most of its applications in modern society. see aquinas
Henry Gutierrez
>You have to go entirely out of your beliefs in order to continue your beliefs
Nice stupidity, moron!
You can still follow Christ's general teachings of non-violence whilst developing the world past violence via economic incentivization like bringing Capitalism to poorer countries!
Connor Hernandez
>papists really believe this
Thomas Collins
He's an idiot who has literally used Thomas Aquinas' arguments in debates! He's not up to date in any way on anything and I've noticed in the past several years he's started shilling Keynesian economics!
You can almost tell when he has read something new since he starts parroting the opinion instantly. He's the epitome of a pseudo-intellectual who reads a book and repeats its tenants without any analysis.
Jackson King
Jesus was not opposed to his own death penalty and never called for the abrogation of lawful killing according to Jewish laws, he's a 1st century apocalyptic Rabbi who constantly warns about hell and impending doom, not a 1960s political activist.
Julian Brooks
Well then let's put aside the economic argument. A society, to survive, needs to have the will to properly punish its wicked and defend its people against invaders. It's kind of like how liberalism is unable to defend liberalism. You can't have your society of equality between the genders, free speech, and homosexual rights while at the same time not fighting against things like ramping Islamification. Those values can exist, but to preserve them you need to be willing to act against them.
Kevin Lee
>May the death penalty, an unworthy punishment still used in some countries, be abolished throughout the world. John Paul II, prayer at the Papal Mass at Regina Coeli Prison in Rome, July 9, 2000
This was the Pope Scalia loved, too, not Francis.
Alexander Gomez
"Know"?
You believe in knowledge? There is no knowledge, only belief! Moron!
Ryder Allen
>It's kind of like how liberalism is unable to defend liberalism
Provide an example that isn't an SJW, thanks!
Ayden Jackson
I'm actually an atheist. it's commonly known among religious scholars that you can't extract anything like a coherent ideology of jesus from the gospel
>Christ's general teachings of non-violence Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34 john 2-15 Making a whip of cords, he drove all of them out of the temple, both the sheep and the cattle. He also poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
private opinion of the pope, not doctrine. as I said, this is in opposition to actual uses of the death penalty, not the death penalty as such
nice meme
Josiah Robinson
>"You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye."
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. 29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. 30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. 31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Juan Taylor
>what is papal infallibility
Either way, Scalia was full of shit. There's no difference between being opposed "on principle" and being opposed to uses of the death penalty.
Christopher Roberts
See >he thinks I agree with literally every verse in the bible
Moron, don't realise it's about interpretation!
Parker Martin
Blasphemy/10
Carson Bailey
He's an Anglican, an English Protestant, and English Protestants traditionally believe in the death penalty
Jace Reyes
>He's an Anglican, an English Protestant, and English Protestants traditionally believe in the death penalty
Ah, now it makes sense.
William Cox
>Keynesian economics!
Which is foolish for exactly what reason?
David Jenkins
I never said it was foolish, only that it is obvious that he has never studied all the things he preaches for any extended period of time and that a lot of what he talks about he has quite clearly learned recently.
Benjamin Morgan
look up what papal infallibility actually is, that's what I meant by "private opinion". random things the pope says aren't necessarily true, though they can contribute to something being judged as more likely to be infallible. for example the same pope spoke out against abortion, but not as doctrine, so in collaboration with the anti-abortion tradtion that goes back to the church fathers, the chuch concludes that it is is "probably infallible"
more like bible criticism/10 don't care either way
not sure if you're trolling or mentally confused, or maybe don't speak english or something
Cooper Turner
>Matthew 10:34
in the original greek "μάχαιραν" is "short sword, knife", similiar roots mean "fight" "challenge" and was a common metaphor for justice or contest because it was the kind of swords worn by judges and police
>it's commonly known among religious scholars that you can't extract anything like a coherent ideology of jesus from the gospel
you don't know what you're talking about, go find a lutheran or orthodox theologist and shut up
i forgot about sell your cloak and buy a sword aswell I'm sure that's an allegory point is that the new testament is not consistent
Brayden Cox
FUCK OFF, HE WAS NOT OPPOSED TO *VIOLENCE*, HE BELIEVED IN ALLOWING EVIL TO OCCUR BUT NOT REJECTING IT, BUT CONFRONTING IT WITH GOOD, STOP MISINTERPRETING SOMETHING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
Henry Walker
They outnumber the intellectuals of any other faith, including gay faiths such as atheism.
Josiah Morris
If there was no death penalty then Jesus (and all the saints) would have never been martyred. Check mate athesit.
Nicholas Perry
>Capitalism >non-violent Wot
Kayden Jones
Or in reality, he just isn't infallible, because no one is.
Carter Robinson
>He wasn't against the death penalty he would have just said "you shouldn't kill people lmao"
Nice mental gymnastics you got going
Luke Johnson
>snuff cult >against death penalty
Nathan Gonzalez
>Yet in the same breath, he will defend a universal health-care system and state that it is the duty of every British person to help out fellow British people when they are injured or ill and that this is a public duty It's almost like... drug addiction and casual sex are choices.... whereas physical illness isn't.... woah...
Oliver Sanchez
>be American "Christian" conservative
>fuck the poor
Michael Lopez
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Aiden Brooks
>reads a book and repeats its tenants nice
Christian Price
>christian >intellectual
Blake Foster
And on the other hand, you can do un-christian things to have a free society.
Diseases are just God's punishments.
Landon Butler
That's certainly what many leftists think. As a conservative I don't say "fuck the poor", I say "fuck the forced redistribution of wealth". It is immoral to steal peoples money. I think there are better ways to help the poor than with government force. Before the welfare state there was the mutual-aid society, and it worked and I would like to go back to that.